Series 2 is thicker, heavier and has a ceramic back

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by Phogro, Sep 7, 2016.

  1. Phogro macrumors member

    Phogro

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    Found the following on Apple's product page for an individual watch.

    Series 1

    • Height: 42.5mm
    • Width: 36.4mm
    • Depth: 10.5mm
    • Case Weight: 30g
    Series 2
    • Height: 42.5mm
    • Width: 36.4mm
    • Depth: 11.4mm
    • Case Weight: 34.2g

    Series 1 Features
    • Gold aluminum case
    • S1P dual-core processor
    • Splash resistant1
    • Ion-X glass
    • OLED Retina display with Force Touch (450 nits)
    • Composite back
    • Digital Crown
    • Heart rate sensor, accelerometer, and gyroscope
    • Ambient light sensor
    • Speaker and microphone
    • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz)
    • Bluetooth 4.0
    • Up to 18 hours of battery life3
    • watchOS 3
    Series 2 Features
    • Gold aluminum case
    • S2 dual-core processor
    • Built-in GPS
    • Water resistant 50 meters2
    • Ion-X glass
    • 2x brighter OLED Retina display with Force Touch (1000 nits)
    • Ceramic back
    • Digital Crown
    • Heart rate sensor, accelerometer, and gyroscope
    • Ambient light sensor
    • Direct fire speaker and microphone
    • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n 2.4GHz)
    • Bluetooth 4.0
    • Up to 18 hours of battery life3
    • watchOS 3
     
  2. Jimmy James macrumors 68040

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    Thicker, heavier and harder. Exactly what you want in some circumstances.
     
  3. Sukach macrumors regular

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    This is....disappointing. 4 grams will barely be distinguishable, but disappointed to see that it is thicker.
     
  4. Dwalls90 macrumors 601

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    Is it at all ironic that Apple made the watch thicker, while they tend to make ever successive update to a piece of hardware, thinner? (Yes, I know there is the exception being iPad 3).
     
  5. Julien macrumors G3

    Julien

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    It likely has the bigger battery and is not listed.

    Just to add 1000nits is enormous for an OLED and on par with most higher end TVs. Will be much better in sunlight.
     
  6. Lobwedgephil macrumors 68040

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    TV's are horrible in sunlight.
     
  7. cambookpro macrumors 603

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    iPhone 3G, iPad 3, iPhone 6s, iPad mini 2... They're actually not that adverse to making things thicker, they just like to make a large song and dance when things get thinner and we tend to remember those!
     
  8. BarracksSi Suspended

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    I'd like to see the teardown.

    My guesses:

    - GPS chip and associated antenna.

    - New method of attaching the back for 50m of water resistance (although this feels less likely as I type it).

    - Fatter battery only in the Series 2(?)
     
  9. Lobwedgephil macrumors 68040

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  10. Julien macrumors G3

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    Full sunlight is over 8000nits. It is just not possible to build a display with that much light output (and no current OLED can do it) without an enormous amount of power. In a watch display it would probably need more power than a 110V 10amp could supply and would likely need a separate liquid cooling system.
     
  11. M. Gustave macrumors 68000

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    You're assuming 100% reflectance of the sunlight on the screen. In reality it's probably 3%.
     
  12. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    And the iPhone 3G. Not really ironic because they'll likely make all subsequent iterations thinner over time (just like the iPhone).
     
  13. Rok73 macrumors 65816

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    Just wait for series 3. It will be thinner.
     
  14. Newtons Apple macrumors P6

    Newtons Apple

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    If series 3 has a cell chip it will be thicker.
     
  15. frifra macrumors 6502a

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    TV's are also horrible on your wrist.
     
  16. Rogifan macrumors P6

    Rogifan

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    Is Watch thicker than high end mechanical watches or other smart watches like the new Samsung Gear 3?
     
  17. Recognition macrumors 6502

    Recognition

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    0.9mm? You say you won't be able to distinguish 4 grams but 0.9mm?.. That's disappointing?! How thin are your wrists?!
     
  18. GrumpyMom macrumors 603

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    Yay, ceramic back! I loved my Sport but that composite back could make my hyper-sensitive skin itchy. It sticks more to the skin when you sweat. I wonder if that fact was brought to Apple's attention so they decided to fix that.

    I'm very excited about the new Watches. I'm not ordering until next spring at the earliest, but I'm definitely excited.
     
  19. matrix07 macrumors 68040

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    Are you sure the Sport version will have ceramic back? Highly unlikely IMO.
     
  20. Julien macrumors G3

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    Series 2 (Sport) does but series 1 doesn't.

    [​IMG]
     
  21. b0fh666 macrumors 6502a

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    no series 1 in steel? sad, was considering one.
     
  22. Julien macrumors G3

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    Series 1 is only to offer a low cost :apple:Watch entry option point.
     
  23. b0fh666 macrumors 6502a

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    well, i don't care about the GPS as I don't run outside but the extra thickness would bother me as I use the 38mm... could use the better/faster processor but not downgrading to aluminum for sure. meh. guess the v1 steel is a keeper for now.
     
  24. Vanilla35 macrumors 68030

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    That's exactly why Apple didn't include it lol. Now you've got to pay up for Series 2
     
  25. Defender2010 macrumors 68030

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    NO CERAMIC BACK ON ALUMINIUM. Period
     

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