‘Ultra thin‘ Wasn’t really the point that was made (Nor did anyone used the word ‘Ultra’). Thinner in general, as the Apple Watch is actually considerably getting thicker due to the added health sensors requiring more battery. But you made the comment about efficiency, that requires different display technology, because OLED is anything but efficient. If you research micro LED, you’ll see exactly what I’m referring to.
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‘Ultra thin‘ Wasn’t really the point that was made (Nor did anyone used the word ‘Ultra’). Thinner in general, as the Apple Watch is actually considerably getting thicker due to the added health sensors requiring more battery. But you made the comment about efficiency, that requires different display technology, because OLED is anything but efficient. If you research micro LED, you’ll see exactly what I’m referring to.
If I could get an “ultra-thin” Apple Watch with the same 30-36 hour batter that I currently get, I would be ecstatic. I like my Series 6 titanium but it is still too thick.
I agree. I get to the end of my typical day with about 50% battery left and I charge it overnight every night so I don’t really need any more battery life but also appreciate a decent safety margin so wouldn’t want battery life to be reduced. As long as current battery life is maintained I would appreciate every mm they could shave off the thickness for future models. I also have a Series 6 titanium (in space black).
Why not try the series 6 for 14 days and find out?
Hands on is much better than asking strangers with different needs and wants than you. Thanks. I bit the bullet and got one, using my Apple card and trading in my S3, so it only cost me $14 a month for 2 years. I tried a 5 mile run today using both Strava on the Apple Watch (Workouts no longer tracks GPS) and Strava on the iPhone and there was still a discrepancy but much smaller than before. Before there was a 20-30 second difference in pace between the two; now it's more like 10-12 seconds.
Some folks have been bitten by an ios14 bug in which watch workout tracks aren’t showing up on the phone.
Workout maps gone in iOS 14? - Apple Community
To be honest I see very little difference between Watch OS7 on my series 4 and Watch OS7 on my series 6. Going from OS6 to OS7 demonstrated an apparently significant speed increase on my series 4 although I think this is due to the animations being faster.
If I had not upgraded to watch OS 7 on my series 4, I would have assumed a significant speed increase between watches.
That being said, I think the always on display is a bit of a game changer so I would argue there was a bit of a difference between the series 4 and series 5 even if the SOC was the same.
If I had not upgraded to watch OS 7 on my series 4, I would have assumed a significant speed increase between watches.
That being said, I think the always on display is a bit of a game changer so I would argue there was a bit of a difference between the series 4 and series 5 even if the SOC was the same.
My S5 is very fast I have to say. What particular action or app do you use that demonstrates such a vast speed improvement if you don’t mind me asking?
Really anything. Pressing the crown or side button is faster, Siri is faster. Everything does feel faster. 20%? IDK, I haven’t measured to validate the claims but it is noticeably faster.
I do agree with OP though. While S6 is more of an upgrade from the S5 than the S5 was of the S4, it’s not a worthy upgrade for 90% of people. Power users or watch lovers will notice the difference though
Did you ever use the S5 on OS7? When I do the things you mention there, I’m not kidding but it’s instant. If the S6 is faster then it must be in the thousandths of a second and I question whether it would be noticeable. I’ve just run through opening apps, pressing the crown, Siri and Apple Pay and the response is immediate.
I had an S2 before my S5 so that was quite a large upgrade but agree if anybody has any of the last 2 watches, it’s pretty pointless upgrading to the S6.
Nah that’s just you seeing the difference between watch os6 and watch os7. And in saying that as a series 6 owner that’s upgraded from a series 4 running watch os7
I don’t have a Belkin Boost, but I do have another third party charger that included it’s own watch charging puck and I saw the same thing... over 2 hours to fully charge my S6 watch. If I use the charging puck that came with the watch it’s about an hour for a full charge. It seems that at least some of the third party chargers don’t support fast charging on the S6.
Any guesses (or calculations) on how much the Watch trade-in value depreciates year to year?
I have a pristine S5 SSSB and was offered $240 trade in via Apple when purchasing a S6. Any thoughts on what I would be offered next year for the S5 if upgrading to the S7?
I realize I probably could do better selling privately, but don't want to spend time/effort doing that right now in the midst of COVID.
I have a pristine S5 SSSB and was offered $240 trade in via Apple when purchasing a S6. Any thoughts on what I would be offered next year for the S5 if upgrading to the S7?
I realize I probably could do better selling privately, but don't want to spend time/effort doing that right now in the midst of COVID.
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Honestly it varies. I've even seen the trade price drop from one week to another back when I did the S3 to S4 upgrade. Maybe see what folks were offered for S4 devices this year and use that as a guesstimate.
Remember the trade in price is set by whichever wholesaler Apple's engaged with - and the price will vary by what the wholesaler things market demand may be for resale. So it's always a guess as the features of the new model may affect potential resale value of prior models.
As for private sales - I can recommend Swappa.com as a decent platform to sell used watches and phones, as well as to buy used of the same. Slightly more effort than an Apple trade in but typically a good bit higher return as well.
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You got offered just 34% of its original value by Apple?! That is rather abysmal to be fair and if it’s that low after 12 months then it could be 15% this time next year if you are lucky. I’d sell privately if I were you. I know COVID is a factor but it can be done sensibly. Having said that you’ve got a Series 5 which is still a brilliant watch and very little in difference to the 6
.For comparison, I got offered $180 trade-in via Apple for my pristine aluminum GPS-only S5. Just goes to show the higher end SS watches retain very little of their premium cost. Which makes sense, as people looking to purchase used/refurb watches are looking for lowest cost and are more price-sensitive.
Last year I got $140 trading in an aluminum GPS-only S4 for an S5. So trade-in value this year is a little better than last year.
I expect if you held on to the S5 another year you would be offered around $150.
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I really notice a performance improvement with the Home app and Siri but I haven’t tried either of those on a Series 5 under a released version watchOS 7. I did use the watchOS 7 beta for about 3 weeks and didn’t notice a speed up from watchOS 6 but betas can be tricky to try and guess performance improvements.
I’ve had a number of Apple watches over the years. I went with SS for Series 0,2,3, and 4. And now Titanium for Series 5 and 6. The resale value of the SS watches has always been absolutely terrible. Even selling them on my own, rather than doing a trade I would only get $200-$300 for them at the one year mark. Interestingly I did much better with my Titanium Series 5 watch and I was able to sell it for a bit over $500.
I think the problem is that most of the people who want to buy a used Apple Watch are doing so because they want to spend as little money as possible. I suspect that most of them don’t really care whether the watch is aluminum or SS and so the percieved value for the used SS watches is little more than the perceived value for the aluminum watches. This is the first year I tried to sell a titanium one, but I think that there may be a better market for used titanium watches because there are much fewer of them out there and people are still willing to pay a premium for a titanium watch, but maybe not full price for a brand new one.
I think the problem is that most of the people who want to buy a used Apple Watch are doing so because they want to spend as little money as possible. I suspect that most of them don’t really care whether the watch is aluminum or SS and so the percieved value for the used SS watches is little more than the perceived value for the aluminum watches. This is the first year I tried to sell a titanium one, but I think that there may be a better market for used titanium watches because there are much fewer of them out there and people are still willing to pay a premium for a titanium watch, but maybe not full price for a brand new one.
i have another charging station but without a charging puck (used that from my S4) and now in 25 min from 50% to 100%..
I’ve never used the Home app on any of my devices as I’m invested in the Echo version but I have noticed a decent performance improvement with OS7. I’ve never trusted putting a beta onto my watch.