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Did your replacement iphone 4 come in a black box? It seems like the people who get these black box replacements have no problems with their phones.

Not sure. The guy at the Genius Bar brought it out from the back in a small foam pouch.

There's not anything in the app store giving up aperture/shutter/iso/wb control is there?

I don't think so, only programs that can color correct after you've taken it. I'm sure all the camera control functions are private API's that Apple won't let devs use.

Just out of interest, what breed is your cat, and does s/he have a blue mouth?
Absolutely no idea! Her mouth is regular color from what I've seen.
 
First time I took pictures with it I just thought it was the lighting in the room. I took some outside and it seemed fine. I'm not worried about it.
 
First of all it's a cell phone with fully automatic exposure and white balance. Everyone is ignoring that fact that the lighting (fluorescent) and color is changing 120 times a second (twice per full cycle). This makes a shot with an automatic (unknown shutter speed) camera very unpredictable. The lighting can be changing during the shot. That's one reason that using the flash gives a much better image. This lighting is more reliable.

Finally there seems to be so much confusion between white balance and exposure. They are not related. White balance is a software adjustment that attempts to remove color from an image where no color is viewed in person. In other words white should look white, gray should be gray etc. No color.

Proper exposure is based on 18% reflectance (13% on some digital cameras). The camera doesn't know the color of the object. It only knows the light reflected back to the camera. That's why white paper, gray, black, or any even color will always give a gray image. This surprises many people. Mainly because we rarely take a picture of a solid color. More sophisticated cameras have exposure compensation and various adjustments to let the photographer account for this.

I'd love to see exposure compensation, and white balance adjustment added as an option in the iPhone. Of course some adjustment can be done in post processing. There are many third party apps that help, but it's always best to get exposure right.
 
My iPhone 4 definitely adds more of a yellow hue to my pictures than my 3GS did, but I'm not too concerned about it because even with the yellow, the quality of the pictures it takes is excellent.
 
iPhone 4 white balance problem yellow recording

I discovered I get a white balance problem when recording videos. Its not extreme thought just in certain conditions. I'm not too bummed cause my pictures are fine and even the camera records mostly with very good colors.

I was recording this iPhone's demo mode and there was a white back. You can really see it after I introduce my hand about 40 seconds in. It was recorded with a 32gb iPhone 4 and look how it goes from white to yellow through out the recording.

I am thinking this should be fixable via software.

I guess the ultimate test would be to go back and check how the 3GS performance under the same condition but I do think its a problem that should be looked into and fixed by Apple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWgIHYud9eI
 
What apps do picture post processing on the iphone?

I have the photoshop application and like it for basic the stuff it's meant to do. As Givmeabrek mentioned, Photogene is said to be a very good one too. Neither has been updated for iOS4 yet but 'm sure they will soon.

When Photogene updates I think I'm going to give it a try.
 
JUST RETURN THE PHONE IF YOU ARENT HAPPY WITH IT


THATS THE ONLY SOLUTION THAT WILL WORK


DO NOT EXPECT ANY COMPANY ANY LONGER TO FIX ANYTHING OR ADMIT MISTAKES


DO NOT HAVE AN OPINION, POINT OUT FLAWS, OR TRY TO SOUND INTELLIGENT


YOUR VOICE DOES NOT MATTER, NOR DO YOUR CONCERNS


APPLE IS A GREAT COMPANY





just thought id get it out of the way before the anti-opinion squad comes through.
 
^ ......sigh..... Macrumors has been really awful lately with this kind of stuff... I'm trying to keep this thread informative and not a giant flamewar. Can we please respect that?

ANYWAY....


A little bit of an update. I had to return my iPhone YET AGAIN because the replacement phone they gave me yesterday had a busted microphone, ie: if I called anyone, they could NOT hear me. (Side note: Really good quality control by the way...bleh... Seriously, can't believe they gave me a phone with a broken microphone)
I took it into the Apple store, and they did a swap on the spot. This particular one came from a black box. Obviously the microphone works fine on the newest one.

Preliminarily, this camera seems to be working a bit better than my previous one(s). Whites are showing up more true. I won't know *for sure* until it gets dark out and it's CFL light only, but so far it seems promising.

Will update more tonight once we're back from 4th Of July festivities!
 
Did your replacement iphone 4 come in a black box? It seems like the people who get these black box replacements have no problems with their phones.

That's not necessarily true. I've gotten 2 replacement iPhone 4s and both have come
From the plastic black box and both have still retained the same signal issues as original iPhone 4 I bought on launch day!
 
I have 1 picture from my 3G (running iOS 4) and 2 from my 32GB iPhone 4 that was the "first" batch, pre ordered from Apple.com, received on June 23rd.

The ones on the iPhone 4 without the flash are fine, but when the flash is involved that's when the yellow comes along.
 
Mine too

My 16gb takes yellow photos indoors when I use the flash. I was wandering if it was a software or hardware problem.
 
I've said in other threads that the white balance is off in artificial lighting.

Strange thing is the white balance algorithm should be all software. Only possible difference that could explain why the 16gb is different is a different sensor which does not make sense.

I've said it before and will say it again, I want a phone that will shoot in digital negative format. It is the only way to have complete control over the white balance. :)

Edit: Just in case everyone thinks I'm serious. I don't expect a cell phone camera to shoot in RAW format...not yet. :)
 
Got home really late last night, so I wasn't able to do any super extensive testing, but here is one picture I took last night with my latest replacement phone (the phone came from a black box refurb at an Apple store).

You can see the white stripe on the cup is more accurate in its white balance than the whites in my previous photos.

Very promising!

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Good luck! I hope the new one is better - from the pic above, it looks better, anyway. My repacement seems better in the yellow department too - that wasn't my chief concern, I brought it in because of reddish discoloration at the bottom of most of my pics, but I also had the problem of flash pics being too yellow. Got it replaced yesterday at the Apple store and the new one seems MUCH better.
 
After reading a couple of threads on this, i decided to give mine a white paper test with a 3gs, i4, and sony t1000. the i4 was definitely yellow.

I bought the phone from att on the 29th. So can i just walk into an apple store and show them for an exchange?
 
Reproducing the conditions of the initial test, here is how my new iPhone 4 looked.

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This photo was fairly close to matching my girlfriend's 16GB iPhone 4.

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As was this.

Overall, I am satisfied with the results of the new phone. While the AWB is still not great in CFL lighting, at least this iPhone seems to be in tune with what my girlfriend's phone was shooting in the same conditions. I no longer feel the photos are "overly" yellow in comparison.
 
I too noticed yellow photos in low light with flash on or off. Tap to focus seemed to correct things greatly. Will post photos when I get home tonight.
 
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