Severe scratches on iPad 2 (Smart cover users) PICS

[DKatri]

OP, I think you might have to concede some things here.

Faulty implies that it doesn't do its job. Its job it to protect the screen. Scratches on the screen of an iPad will effect its use (you can feel scratches when your finger runs over them and the light refracts through them)
Scratches on the back, while an annoyance don't effect the iPad working. The simple face is, if you wanted the back protected you should have got something to protect it.

I know that you are now trying to shift the discussion to the scratches where the cover attaches but that is not what you were originally talking about.

And as for it being "your thread"; don't be silly. This is a public forum, you aren't a moderator or an admin so you can't tell others what to do or where they can and can't post.

 

[CXVI]

Get a bekin back protector.

 

[Coldsnow]

OP, I think you might have to concede some things here.

Faulty implies that it doesn't do its job. Its job it to protect the screen. Scratches on the screen of an iPad will effect its use (you can feel scratches when your finger runs over them and the light refracts through them)
Scratches on the back, while an annoyance don't effect the iPad working. The simple face is, if you wanted the back protected you should have got something to protect it.

I know that you are now trying to shift the discussion to the scratches where the cover attaches but that is not what you were originally talking about.

And as for it being "your thread"; don't be silly. This is a public forum, you aren't a moderator or an admin so you can't tell others what to do or where they can and can't post.

The only reason I shifted the discussion was because someone brought it up as not being a faulty product under Apple's fault. I don't want to buy a back protector for my iPad. I like the product bare naked. This smart cover ended up putting some scuffs on the hinge area which I wasn't expecting to happen, And you get mad at me?

Here's someone on Youtube who's iPad had gotten scratched DUE TO THE SMART COVER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PoP0zmTeAU

Saying the same thing over and over again, doesn't make it true.



I don't know what you do with your iPad, and it's easy for someone to say they baby their iPad, and do something totally different. I'm just saying, if something were truly faulty by design, then the results would be easy to reproduce, and on two iPads now using the same smart cover, I've got no scratches.



My iPad2 had a smartcover on it for over a year, and I then switched it over to my iPad 3 when it came out a few months back. Seems an awful long time to wait for scratches to appear so I can call something faulty.




Isn't that a shame, how people who disagree with you can post on the same threads that you make, expressing their disagreement?




Yes, it is your opinion. Here's a tip: using that iPad of yours, highlight the word "opinion" on this or any other page, and select "Define" (or right-click it on a Mac and select "lookup"). It'll pretty much tell you how authoritative your opinion is.

(For those without a Mac or iPad handy, here you go.)

Why are you trying to contradict my own opinion? A product that is advertised as a cover for the front also scratches the back doesn't sound like a faulty product? It's also advertised to ALIGN FOR A PERFECT FIT. The magnets usually mistakenly attach to the screen side, NOT ALIGNING; NO PERFECT FIT. I'm glad to hear your opinion but when it comes to the scratches on my device from the hinges. I DO blame it on Apple.

Here's a definition of faulty bro: fault·y/ˈfôltē/
Adjective:
1. Working badly or unreliably because of imperfections.
2. (of reasoning and other mental processes) Mistaken or misleading because of flaws.

 

[AlphaDogg]

The only reason I shifted the discussion was because someone brought it up as not being a faulty product under Apple's fault. I don't want to buy a back protector for my iPad. I like the product bare naked. This smart cover ended up putting some scuffs on the hinge area which I wasn't expecting to happen, And you get mad at me?

Here's someone on Youtube who's iPad had gotten scratched DUE TO THE SMART COVER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PoP0zmTeAU

Why are you trying to contradict my own opinion? A product that is advertised as a cover for the front also scratches the back doesn't sound like a faulty product? It's also advertised to ALIGN FOR A PERFECT FIT. The magnets usually mistakenly attach to the screen side, NOT ALIGNING; NO PERFECT FIT. I'm glad to hear your opinion but when it comes to the scratches on my device from the hinges. I DO blame it on Apple.

Here's a definition of faulty bro: fault·y/ˈfôltē/
Adjective:
1. Working badly or unreliably because of imperfections.
2. (of reasoning and other mental processes) Mistaken or misleading because of flaws.

I see you took the definition from Apple's dictionary app. However, you left out the examples of use.

faulty |ˈfôltē|
adjective ( faultier, faultiest )
working badly or unreliably because of imperfections: a car with faulty brakes.
• (of reasoning and other mental processes) mistaken or misleading because of flaws: faulty logic.
• having or displaying weaknesses: her character was faulty.

...anyone see what I did there?

 

[tekboi]

this is why you buy cases.. the smart cover is nice and all. But for excessive usage a case is better. I realized this 1 month after my first ipad purchase.

right now I have the smart case... pretty decent.

 

[Coldsnow]

I see you took the definition from Apple's dictionary app. However, you left out the examples of use.

...anyone see what I did there?

No I didn't take the definition from "Apple's dictionary app".

 

[beg_ne]

The only reason I shifted the discussion was because someone brought it up as not being a faulty product under Apple's fault. I don't want to buy a back protector for my iPad. I like the product bare naked. This smart cover ended up putting some scuffs on the hinge area which I wasn't expecting to happen, And you get mad at me?

According to post #7, the scuffs YOU caused on your iPad were due to the surfaces YOU placed it on.

Can you understand this? As an objective fact YOU caused the scuffs on your iPad due to how and where you chose to place your iPad without any protection on the back. Your SmartCover is not faulty, IT did not cause those scuffs. There would have been just as many if not more scratches on the iPad used in the same conditions but without the SmartCover.

As AlphaDogg already posted, Apple at no point claims that the SmartCover will protect the back of an iPad.

If you wanted to keep your iPad pristine then you need to take steps to make sure it stayed that way, such as putting on a Zagg shield on the back.

You can have an opinion all you want, but factually you are in the wrong.

Here's someone on Youtube who's iPad had gotten scratched DUE TO THE SMART COVER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PoP0zmTeAU

Thats nice. How does that help prove your point?

He claimed that:
1) The metal-on-metal connection caused scratches on the left side.

The pictures you posted do not show any such scratches that could have been caused by the metal hinge. Whatever his issues are is completely moot to any point you're trying to make here.

2) He didn't expect the back to get as scratched as it did. Again this is not the fault of the SmartCover as the SmartCover did not put those scratches on the iPad.

Why are you trying to contradict my own opinion? A product that is advertised as a cover for the front also scratches the back doesn't sound like a faulty product?

Are you under some impression that your opinion actually means anything? It doesn't. Especially when it is in conflicts with reality.

The SmartCover did not place the scratches on the back, therefore it is not responsible for the scratches, nor then is it a faulty product.

It's also advertised to ALIGN FOR A PERFECT FIT. The magnets usually mistakenly attach to the screen side, NOT ALIGNING; NO PERFECT FIT. I'm glad to hear your opinion but when it comes to the scratches on my device from the hinges. I DO blame it on Apple.

Are you claiming that your SmartCover does not align or perfectly fit when operated in the proper way?

Just because you can cause the magnets to attract when placed improperly does not mean the SmartCover is faulty.

Here's a definition of faulty bro: fault·y/ˈfôltē/
Adjective:
1. Working badly or unreliably because of imperfections.
2. (of reasoning and other mental processes) Mistaken or misleading because of flaws.

Definition 1 does not apply, the SmartCover works as advertised. Scratches were not placed on your iPad due to an imperfection of the SmartCover. They were placed there by your own negligence.

Definition 2 doesn't even belong here as the SmartCover can neither reason or have a mental process.

 

[Coldsnow]

According to post #7, the scuffs YOU caused on your iPad were due to the surfaces YOU placed it on.

Can you understand this? As an objective fact YOU caused the scuffs on your iPad due to how and where you chose to place your iPad without any protection on the back. Your SmartCover is not faulty, IT did not cause those scuffs. There would have been just as many if not more scratches on the iPad used in the same conditions but without the SmartCover.

As AlphaDogg already posted, Apple at no point claims that the SmartCover will protect the back of an iPad.

If you wanted to keep your iPad pristine then you need to take steps to make sure it stayed that way, such as putting on a Zagg shield on the back.

You can have an opinion all you want, but factually you are in the wrong.



Thats nice. How does that help prove your point?

He claimed that:
1) The metal-on-metal connection caused scratches on the left side.

The pictures you posted do not show any such scratches that could have been caused by the metal hinge. Whatever his issues are is completely moot to any point you're trying to make here.

2) He didn't expect the back to get as scratched as it did. Again this is not the fault of the SmartCover as the SmartCover did not put those scratches on the iPad.



Are you under some impression that your opinion actually means anything? It doesn't. Especially when it is in conflicts with reality.

The SmartCover did not place the scratches on the back, therefore it is not responsible for the scratches, nor then is it a faulty product.



Are you claiming that your SmartCover does not align or perfectly fit when operated in the proper way?

Just because you can cause the magnets to attract when placed improperly does not mean the SmartCover is faulty.




Definition 1 does not apply, the SmartCover works as advertised. Scratches were not placed on your iPad due to an imperfection of the SmartCover. They were placed there by your own negligence.

Definition 2 doesn't even belong here as the SmartCover can neither reason or have a mental process.

Why do people like you keep purposely posting on my thread? If you have read any of my previous posts you would have seen how my discussion of scratches due to the iPad touching the table (which I have admitted were my fault), has turned into the discussion about Apple's faulty smart cover. You also say the metal on metal causes scratches yet it's not the smart covers fault? Who's negligence is it? Mine? Because I know for sure I'm not carelessly misusing, abusing, or modifying the use of my Smart Cover in any way.

Also the use of my examples in the definition were correct. I agree, it does what is as advertised, but why does it proceed to scratch my iPad and others also? The Smart Cover is a flawed design, having metal on metal design is bound to cause scratches eventually, and therefore has imperfections.

And fyi, my opinions can't actually conflict with reality, because they're opinions (simplest way to put it). Please help yourself and do some more research before commenting. Thanks

 

[DKatri]

Why do people like you keep purposely posting on my thread?

I think at least some of them are accidental.

And fyi, my opinions can't actually conflict with reality, because they're opinions (simplest way to put it). Please help yourself and do some more research before commenting. Thanks

An opinion can be wrong, and they can conflict with reality. It used to be lots of peoples opinion that the world was flat. It has more recently become evident that it is not.

 

[Coldsnow]

I think at least some of them are accidental.



An opinion can be wrong, and they can conflict with reality. It used to be lots of peoples opinion that the world was flat. It has more recently become evident that it is not.

Good try but that's is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. An opinion cannot inflict with reality because it's a personal view on something. People thought the world was flat because that was believed to be a fact back then, did that ever actually change the fact that the world was globular? No

 

[darngooddesign]

Good try but that's is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. An opinion cannot inflict with reality because it's a personal view on something. People thought the world was flat because that was believed to be a fact back then, did that ever actually change the fact that the world was globular? No

Actually an opinion can conflict with reality. To use a previous example, if in your opinion you think the world is flat that conflicts with reality.

 

[dchao]

The Smart Cover is a flawed design, having metal on metal design is bound to cause scratches eventually, and therefore has imperfections.

Nope, it's called wear and tear. Your brake pads and rotors on your car wear off, and they are not covered by manufacture's warranty either.

 

[ozziegn]

This is the main reason why I have and never will use any smart covers that use magnets. It's gonna scratch the iPad. No way around it.

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Bingo. I've been using their products on my iPad 3 without any remorse. Good stuff at a good price. That and the fact their business is like two hours from me. That means my stuff arrives overnite.

 

[iAmYou]

Not to sure what surface the OP has been setting the iPad on but I've been using only a smart cover since October when I purchased the iPad 2 and don't have any signs of scratching from the smart cover or setting it on different surfaces in typing mode.

 

[tmarks11]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KJ1U8U/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00Love this thing. Full protection and still slim.

++1.

I have the same thing, only mine is the Boxwave Nero Nuevo:

http://www.amazon.com/BoxWave-Leath...ulti-Angle/dp/B000MI88CW/ref=pd_sim_sbs_pc_11

Lightweight, slender, positive locking, soft back protects the ipad. Plus, it looks professional, not like a gaudy pieve of plastic stuck on front.

and for the OP: you put this on your ipad, and all those ugly scratches will be hidden from sight.

 

[noisycats]

An opinion cannot inflict with reality because it's a personal view on something. People thought the world was flat because that was believed to be a fact back then, did that ever actually change the fact that the world was globular? No

 

[Coldsnow]

Not to sure what surface the OP has been setting the iPad on but I've been using only a smart cover since October when I purchased the iPad 2 and don't have any signs of scratching from the smart cover or setting it on different surfaces in typing mode.

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Good for you. You haven't experienced the Smart Cover scratching your iPad yet. Maybe when you see a scratch or two, you might have second thoughts about the Smart Cover.

 

[iAmYou]

Good for you. You haven't experienced the Smart Cover scratching your iPad yet. Maybe when you see a scratch or two, you might have second thoughts about the Smart Cover.

Well in 10 months nothing has happened, so i'm not too concerned about it.

 

[Coldsnow]

Well in 10 months nothing has happened, so i'm not too concerned about it.

Good for you.

 

[Jimbo47]

Yes the smart cover is designed to only protect the front, however I would say the fact that it DOES scratch the aluminum (if yours isn't scratched yet, just wait, it will) means it is faulty in a way. The only thing that could be done differently would be to add just a bit more padding on the hinges. Though the little bit of padding there now might be what is causing the aluminum to wear off. The rest of the back has no spots at all. I use the cover buddy from switch easy and I love it. Just took a vacation to OBX and it got cracked somehow, do I'll be buying a new case.

 

[AlphaDogg]

I now realize what you mean by defective. Let me get this straight: The smart cover is abrading the iPad's back case where it magnetically attaches. Is this right? If this is the case, then I believe the smart cover is flawed, not defective. Apple should've designed it in such a way that a material softer than aluminum contacted the iPad at its magnetic points, so that the iPad would not get any blemishes. Though unless Apple included any warranty on the Smart Cover that covers the iPad's hardware, then I think you are SOL. Take it to Apple and ask if they can replace it just this once as sort of a goodwill gesture.

Also, I noticed in one of your pictures that you use your iPad on a granite countertop. Granite is much harder than aluminum, so the way physics works is that the iPad loses the abrasion battle.