Sharp Now Producing 'Adequate Volumes' of iPhone 5 Display

[Renzatic]

This is probably one of the most ignorant posts I have had the pleasure or reading.

When Apple continues to let Samsung make their displays, RAM, and processors it just teaches them how to make it for their own products. How long until Samsung starts using in-cell technology on their displays?

Uh. Are you saying that Samsung didn't know how to put all the parts they manufactured together until Apple showed them how?

Most everything in the iDevice/Mac line are slight tweaks to already standardized technology. Most Apple does is design the shape and positioning of the motherboards and components. They don't design each individual piece from the ground up.

 

[Nozuka]

the biggest reason for apple to look into different suppliers is money. it's easier to get a lower price, if 2 companies have to compete. and also its never good to have everything from one place, makes you too dependent. and in the case of the iphone also quantities. a single supplier probably cant produce enough in a short time.

i don't think they do it because of recent lawsuits. that's just silly power games.

 

[E.Lizardo]

But but we were told by the Really Smart People that the supply shortfall was just super clever marketing.Not clever enough the fool those Really Smart People,of course...

 

[Gnomepatrol]

Uh. Are you saying that Samsung didn't know how to put all the parts they manufactured together until Apple showed them how?

Most everything in the iDevice/Mac line are slight tweaks to already standardized technology. Most Apple does is design the shape and positioning of the motherboards and components. They don't design each individual piece from the ground up.

Don't ruin the fan girls mindset.

 

[fertilized-egg]

Uh. Are you saying that Samsung didn't know how to put all the parts they manufactured together until Apple showed them how?

They definitely didn't know how to put a coherent high-usable touch device from top-to-bottom until Apple showed the way. TouchWiz, especially its earlier incarnation, was an obvious "homage" of iOS too.

A few years back, Samsung once tried to convince the Korean buyers their resistive screen phone is better than iPhone's capacitive display because you can use your fingernail to touch, seriously.

 

[lilo777]

They definitely didn't know how to put a coherent high-usable touch device from top-to-bottom until Apple showed the way. TouchWiz, especially its earlier incarnation, was an obvious "homage" of iOS too.

A few years back, Samsung once tried to convince the Korean buyers their resistive screen phone is better than iPhone's capacitive display because you can use your fingernail to touch, seriously.

It had nothing to do with Apple. Touch interface that you are referring to was impossible without capacitive screens that industry developed by 2007. LG Prada was the first phone with such screen, then came iPhone and then everything else. As we learned during the Apple vs. Samsung trial, Apple learned about multi-touch UI from ome other company. The original UI was developed not for the phone and not for capacitive screen though. Apple definitely deserves credit for integrating the two but all the ingredients for modern UI were developed before iPhone and not by Apple.

 

[danpass]

Perhaps we could get a nice CRT display in iPhone 6?

a tube phone?


EMP proof for the zombie apocalypse

 

[fertilized-egg]

It had nothing to do with Apple. Touch interface that you are referring to was impossible without capacitive screens that industry developed by 2007. LG Prada was the first phone with such screen, then came iPhone and then everything else.

Actually that's not true. If you've used LG Prada, you'll see the interface of that phone is nothing like iPhone's. It was mostly the same old touch interface used with resistive phones and nothing like the multi-touch of iPhone. (Using Prada as an argument against iPhone's uniqueness basically tells me you've actually never used LG Prada, but that's another story)

More importantly, the ad I'm referring to is from 2009, not from 2007.

 

[Gnomepatrol]

They definitely didn't know how to put a coherent high-usable touch device from top-to-bottom until Apple showed the way. TouchWiz, especially its earlier incarnation, was an obvious "homage" of iOS too.

A few years back, Samsung once tried to convince the Korean buyers their resistive screen phone is better than iPhone's capacitive display because you can use your fingernail to touch, seriously.

Well I didn't think one could confuse cpu architecture, component production, and component reliability/yeilds with a gui overlay. I mean they are the same thing right?

 

[fertilized-egg]

Well I didn't think one could confuse cpu architecture, component production, and component reliability/yeilds with a gui overlay. I mean they are the same thing right?

The choice of hardware mattered a lot, especially in those early years. You couldn't put iOS in one of those Symbian phones without sufficient GPU power or the multi touch capacitative screen and expect it to perform the same. A lot of iOS magic was how Apple made the meagre hardware to carry on GUI tasks smoothly in conjunction with multitouch.

 

[iAco]

I am commenting on this because I feel obligated to.

 

[SandynJosh]

So this means Apple's shipping estimates will soon improve.

They already have. My iPhone was to arrive on Oct 5th and arrived yesterday, the 28th. That was a one week improvement.

It came unscuffed, the Foxconn riot notwithstanding.

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Uh. Are you saying that Samsung didn't know how to put all the parts they manufactured together until Apple showed them how?

Most everything in the iDevice/Mac line are slight tweaks to already standardized technology. Most Apple does is design the shape and positioning of the motherboards and components. They don't design each individual piece from the ground up.

One other thing Apple does, and it's been a huge factor in the advancement of cell phone technology, is that Apple gets behind emerging technology and is the "first mover" in its application. Apple has made it possible to enjoy the mobile phone as we know it today by raising the bar on technology by funding high-volume production of innovative components - even if the components eventually find their way into competitive phones quicker then normally.

 

[AppleScruff1]

You said what I wanted to say in a much more concise manner. Thanks.

You're right... Apple needs partners. Trustworthy partners that can be counted on to supply and not steal!

You means ones to kiss butt and be taken advantage of? Isn't that the Apple way?

 

[faroZ06]

Aren't those displays made with the same specifications, and if that is true it wouldn't make a difference whether they are from Samsung, Sharp or any other manufacturer.

I don't think you can tell just from specifications. I think Sony and Samsung TVs look better than Sharp and LG TVs. I have an LG monitor on my Mac, and it's not very good. And LG in general makes junky products.

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I don't know why there is all this Sharp hate on this forum. I've honestly found they make good products that last a very long time that are not priced for the name. I had one Sharp TV that last I checked was 13 or so years old, still going when I gave it to some one else.

Nobody here hates Sharp, but people (including me) don't think their TV screens have picture quality that is as good as or better than Sony or Samsung. Reliability is never really an issue with TVs, and you'll find that any old tube will last forever.

The companies I hate are Microsoft, Hyundai, Toyota (just for making an ugly and popular car), and Huawei (but especially Huawei).

 

[G51989]

Samsung,... Google. You boys are no longer invited to play with Apple.

Really? Samsung is making better RMBP displays than LG or anyone else.

And google has the best maps in the world.


What your saying, is that you would perfer an inferior RMBP display and inferior maps App just because apple says so? ****, I wish I was Apple, people will buy garbage just because it says APple on it, that proves how stupid some people are.


So what your saying is, its OK for Apple to compromise the user experience over petty business bickering?

Btw, Google and Samsung don't care about Apple. If they lose Apple as customer, they'll go along their way just fine.

If Apple totally ditches google and samsung, they will be producing an inferior product, as shown with Apple maps being crap, and very high failure rates of LG produced RMBP Displays.

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I don't think you can tell just from specifications. I think Sony and Samsung TVs look better than Sharp and LG TVs. I have an LG monitor on my Mac, and it's not very good. And LG in general makes junky products.

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Nobody here hates Sharp, but people (including me) don't think their TV screens have picture quality that is as good as or better than Sony or Samsung. Reliability is never really an issue with TVs, and you'll find that any old tube will last forever.

The companies I hate are Microsoft, Hyundai, Toyota (just for making an ugly and popular car), and Huawei (but especially Huawei).

Why do you hate Microsoft? They make the best OS in the world imo, its compatible, stable and secure. Apple can offer you secure, but not compatibly or stability. ( at least how its been for me ).

Why do you hate Hyundai!? I won't buy one of their cars, I buy ford, but thats personal preference. I buy whats the best, and Ford makes the best cars in the world. My old Crown Vic made it to 515,000 miles I don't see any of that Eurocrap hitting that.

Toyota? So your saying their like Apple? They make ugly products but people still buy them because of the name.

 

[SpyderBite]

With all the armchair developers, engineers, marketers and lawyers present; it is amazing that Yale, Harvard or any Ivy League school has any need to continue educating people for these fields.

We have an army of "professionals" right here.

 

[faroZ06]

Btw, Google and Samsung don't care about Apple. If they lose Apple as customer, they'll go along their way just fine.

Google gets a lot of advertising money from iOS, and Samsung gets a huge components customer out of Apple. I think Apple could do without Samsung or Google, and Google and Samsung could do without Apple, but they'd all be a lot worse off.

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Why do you hate Microsoft? They make the best OS in the world imo, its compatible, stable and secure. Apple can offer you secure, but not compatibly or stability. ( at least how its been for me ).

Why do you hate Hyundai!? I won't buy one of their cars, I buy ford, but thats personal preference. I buy whats the best, and Ford makes the best cars in the world. My old Crown Vic made it to 515,000 miles I don't see any of that Eurocrap hitting that.

Toyota? So your saying their like Apple? They make ugly products but people still buy them because of the name.

Microsoft: Ripped off the Macintosh, led a pattern of copying and using monopolistic/anticompetitive techniques, and makes an OS that is insecure and relatively unstable. You can ignore compatibility because it's not like Microsoft did anything to Windows to make it have more programs be available for it. If anything, they made it tougher with all of the crud you have to install to run stuff (like .NET frameworks). But I don't care about Windows being bad since I don't use it. The thing I hate about MS is their ugly techniques.

Hyundai: I hate them for one reason. They pulled some really, really low moves with the Genesis, completely ripping off Mercedes and BMW. Every time I see one of those things, I think it's a Mercedes (from the front) or BMW (from the back) until I look at the logo. What jerks.

Toyota: I have no problem with the Prius being popular except for the fact that Toyota had to make it some sick joke: They made a super-popular car have a terrible, terrible design that looks like a small version of the infamous Pontiac Aztek. They could have at least made it look like a slightly weird European car, like the Nissan Leaf, but they had to go and make the worst design possible. As for the Prius's machinery, I don't have an opinion except for the bad suspension and handling that seems to plague all Toyotas, even the famous Land Cruiser (great car). And they had some other bad designs, too. That being said, I don't hate Toyota that much, but they really did ruin the road scenery. I just don't like it when companies put so little pride in their products.

Huawei: Literally stole binary code from Cisco and put it in their products. Their routers even identified themselves as Cisco routers. These guys are dirty thieves, Chinese knockoff crooks.

Crown Victorias are awesome, by the way.

 

[Gnomepatrol]

The choice of hardware mattered a lot, especially in those early years. You couldn't put iOS in one of those Symbian phones without sufficient GPU power or the multi touch capacitative screen and expect it to perform the same. A lot of iOS magic was how Apple made the meagre hardware to carry on GUI tasks smoothly in conjunction with multitouch.

I think you have missed the entire point on the article.

 

[fertilized-egg]

I think you have missed the entire point on the article.

I think you have missed the entire point on my post, which was a response to Renzatic's post. Then again, you seem to believe Samsung can make iPhone displays and Hynix NAND will cause iPhones to fail more so have it your way. Apple has no choice to to diversify their suppliers for most everything.

Wow a guest appearance by Samsung's CEO here on MacRumors!!!

It seems odd that Samsung's CEO doesn't remember that Samsung is quitting the mobile LCD market and it's always been LG and others who supplied Apple with those.

 

[Burnt_Toast]

Was Samsung mentioned in this article?