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Did the new Haswell actually improve the battery life for the MacBook Air? Or did Apple just realize that they underestimated the battery life the last time around and that they could get away with claiming an extra hour?
 
I just brought a new 15" 2.3 and loving it with the graphics card along with my new now outdated 13" MBA.
 
I'd buy it now and not worry about the future. There will always be a faster computer getting prepped for release. I'd say if there is a speed bump in the coming months it will be minor. So unless you're willing to wait for Broadwell get one now.

Will there always be a faster computer around the corner ? Not sure about that. The general stagnation of CPU clock speeds and delays in getting Broadwell to market because it is getting technically harder to make them smaller make me wonder if we are reaching "peak computing" very soon ? Until the next big tech leap comes along if we don't wipe ourselves out first.


Did the new Haswell actually improve the battery life for the MacBook Air? Or did Apple just realize that they underestimated the battery life the last time around and that they could get away with claiming an extra hour?

Wondering that too. Also wondering why none of these rumour/tech sites are testing that out!
 
If the new Haswell is more power efficient then that WILL lead to better battery life, even a faster clock will enable instructions to run fast and hence power down the processor quicker, thus also extending battery life.

Whether it adds up to an extra hour or 10% I don't know.

Barney
 
does anyone have experience with getting a price adjustment on a refurb purchase? I wonder what Apple would do if I buy a refurb today and then they drop the price at WWDC, which is less than 14 days away. This is complicated by the fact that refurb stock comes and goes. I'd hate to return it for a refund, then have to wait until it comes into stock again.

I called Apple today and while I won't go into everything we talked about, I'm into my 7th day with my MacBook refurb. They essentially treat the purchase of a refurb the same way as they do a brand new MacBook - there's no difference, except the box in which it comes.

I'm totally blown away at this company. Compared to the competition, we pay through the nose, but there is a difference on the service end, not to mention the hardware end.

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I would also like to take this time and do a battery suckage report. I opened the lid of my fully charged Haswell 15" this morning at 7:30 am and rode hard, hard until it went dark at 2:50 pm.

Of course there were times where I took a phone call for 10 minutes, or I ran out to the car to get something, or drank some coffee for 15 minutes with a friend, but I am here to say I was spreadsheeting, PDFpen left and right (that thing is a hog), and running iTunes in the background (I could've use my iPhone 5, but I chose not too), I used both Chrome and Safari, running and using Kiwi for ADN, PCalc, Postbox, Evernote, Skitch, iCal, 1Password, and essentially working my butt off!

I don't know about you're experiences, but I think it did quite well. Specs are at the sig line.

I'm going to post this somewhere in the forum for it's proper placement, but I thought it was relevant to the refurb, new, or wait conversation.

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Will there always be a faster computer around the corner ? Not sure about that. The general stagnation of CPU clock speeds and delays in getting Broadwell to market because it is getting technically harder to make them smaller make me wonder if we are reaching "peak computing" very soon ? Until the next big tech leap comes along if we don't wipe ourselves out first.



Regarding clock speeds and stagnation of clock speeds:

How long have we been at i7? I said two years ago that I would wait for the next gen chip, but it's nowhere to be seen or talked about anywhere legitimate with a good reputation.

Isn't i7 getting a little long in the tooth?
 
Regarding clock speeds and stagnation of clock speeds:

How long have we been at i7? I said two years ago that I would wait for the next gen chip, but it's nowhere to be seen or talked about anywhere legitimate with a good reputation.

Isn't i7 getting a little long in the tooth?
The i3/i5/i7 branding is just that, branding. What it means is a little bit different and inconsistent over the years. Generally speaking, though, i3 is the low-end, i5 is midgrade, and i7 is top-end.

That branding has been used since 2009-ish, and has covered a lot of different chip generations (Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, the current Haswell, and the forthcoming Broadwell). The generation names don't usually surface to much to the average consumer. The i-branding is there so that someone buying a new machine can be reasonably sure what grade processor they're getting, although comparing a current i5 with a previous or forthcoming i5 is difficult (nevermind comparing mobile processors with desktop processors).

tl;dr: "i7" is a constant label for ever-changing processors.
 
I'll be waiting until after WWDC to make any purchases (only a few more days to go!). My current machine is a early 2013 15" rMBP (2.7, 16GB), which I will be handing off to my wife. I'm hoping to get a refreshed rMBP with a slight speed bump, bump in battery, and maybe even a $100 price drop (a la MBA). But if no refresh happens then, I'll be buying anyway.

Also hoping for a new thunderbolt display with USB 3, Magsafe 2, etc, but hey, there's another thread for that. :)
 
I'd buy it now and not worry about the future. There will always be a faster computer getting prepped for release. I'd say if there is a speed bump in the coming months it will be minor. So unless you're willing to wait for Broadwell get one now.

I took this advice with my just purchased 13" MBP. Loving it. No regrets or worries at all. As you said, evenif you wait for the WWDC or whatever.... You can't beat the system of "electronic outdated ness".

Buy now, life is short. :)
 
There will always be something new and I will always be waiting and waiting to incorporate new changes to a gadget. There is really Is no end to it to wish and get everything.

I will not fall into this trap anymore to wait for something new and improved.

The current MBP gives me pretty screen, fastest SSD in market, best CPU available, good battery. I mean it has everything that will increase my productivity. So if it really is going to increase my productivity then should stop thinking of what architecture is under the hood and channel my efforts where it should make sense.

I next10 days whatever WWDC has to offer to me I will take that. No more looking here and there and get back to work on new machine.

BTW I am a windows user and will be switching to MAC for first time. I am going for 15" / 16 / 512.

Hopefully new machine will be with me in next 2 weeks.

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Buy now, life is short. :)
I think that above message sums it all. If you need it buy it and enjoy your time with it. If you don't need it then also enjoy your time in more meaningful way then to be on a forum to guess what might happen or not happen.
 
Intel CEO said Broadwell by the holiday season; any earlier would be very difficult, so I would buy now unless you want to hold off until next year.

In my case I can I can hold it till next year...But then depends Next Year when would it happen ? First Quarter is I am looking out to buy. Will it happen by the first quarter.
 
So im not gonna buy it...but it seems that a new one will come out late 2014 or early 2015? Nothing at WWDC.
 
So im not gonna buy it...but it seems that a new one will come out late 2014 or early 2015? Nothing at WWDC.

The Broadwell chipset is due out late 2014, its anyone's guess if apple will update their laptops before the end of the year. In the past they've waited a couple (few?) months after the release of the chipset so its hard to guess.
 
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