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What would you choose?

  • Wait for the March update

    Votes: 53 46.1%
  • Buy a MacBook Pro now

    Votes: 62 53.9%

  • Total voters
    115
I don't know, it was ~18 months between the last 2015 and the 2016, it would seem right that they will screw early adopters with an updated version ~4 months later!

How does it screw early adopters if Apple releases a revised product 4 or 5 months later?

Those who bought the first version still got the benefit of what they paid for, and those who made do with their old machine a little longer will get a slightly updated product based on the tech available at the time. What's unfair about that?
 
I don't think they'd revert. They could theoretically go back to having a thinner machine and a beefier machine, but honestly, I think they've walked away from that market. The revelation that they no longer have a dedicated macOS team (they used to have several teams working on different parts of the system) gives some indication of just how very heavily they're focusing on the iOS ecosystem.

I think it'll turn out to be short-sighted. They could have used the money from iOS devices to fund the Mac ecosystem and keep it awesome and attractive to people, and used that to attract more high-end users. They didn't.
 
Yes you should just buy one and move on, well said. You are chasing some tech nirvana that doesn't exist. This is an awesome laptop and you will be very happy with it.
Yep. I've done that waaaay too often with cameras too. Done with it, done with it all. I got my 13" that seems to be working fine now and I'll stick with it from what I see. My last one was a 2012 MBA 13" and before that a 2010 iMac. I don't switch year after year and tend to want to keep a Mac for at least 4 years.
Yea its always with technology, you don't know the companies thinking behind their releases and upcoming releases its just up to you. Wether you wait and risk waiting or bite the bullet.
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The line of reasoning that claims if you wait this year you might as well wait another year, ad infinitum is flawed. If you want to wait until the next upgrade then do so. This year's rushed battery is one very valid reason to simply wait, unless you don't mind getting the gimped battery. These machines are overpriced for what they are. Their specs are mediocre compared to what's offered by PC manufacturers at the same price point.

Next year we may or may not see a price drop (likely nothing significant). But if you don't NEED one right now and are kind of feeling the itch to buy into all the hype (totally normal especially during the holiday consumer season), consider this. Next year Apple will probably release the computer they intended to release this year. They will have fixed the battery, and have had a year of customer feedback to improve the next iteration. You'll benefit from that if/when you buy the improved version next year (assuming they release one, which is not definite).
This weeks report from Bloomberg Businessweek sheds some light on the development of this new MacBook Pro. It is in some sense an unfinished product, because of how Apple started development. Initially, the idea was to develop it with more battery being the dominant part of the chassis, but some flaws made that iteration fail in internal test. The company seemed to have scrambled because they were placing their bets on this particular model, but had to go to plan B instead. Plan B is what you have until Apple comes up with a better battery solution or works out whatever kink that caused the initial iteration to fail. Unfortunately, that plan B will require purchasing a new MacBook Pro when the time comes.

I personally see Apple reverting to last years chassis for the 2017 MacBook Pro. Its not like they have never done it before, remember the memory stick shuffle nobody liked?
So your talking about the 2018 release? Thats looking quite far ahead and way past my deadline...
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WWDC 2017 or Fall 2017. Nothing sooner. No chance.
I agree
 
I was debating to which one to pick up. I ended up saving my money and bought a refurbish 2015 15" max specs. And saved some money too. Couldn't be happier with my choice. Just didn't want to deal with all the bugs of the 2016 model. Just wanted something more reliable. Also the touch bar seems silly to me.
 
So your talking about the 2018 release? Thats looking quite far ahead and way past my deadline...

No. Nobody knows when Apple will release an update. Maybe late 2017, maybe later. It's your money, spend it how you please. All's I'm sayin' is that this iteration's battery is flawed. For me that's enough to not buy. See the front page: Consumer Report recommends not buying too.

Up to you.
 
Your "poll" is useless with only two choices.

There isn't going to BE a "March update" for the MacBook Pro.

If there -is- to be an update, I expect it to come in the fourth quarter of 2017 or early 2018...
 
I was planning on buying a new MacBook Pro for College and Video editing since my old MacBook Pro is hopeless. I was planning on buying the MacBook Pro with these specifications:
- 15"
- 1TB SSD
- Radeon 460
- i7 2.9GHz Turbo Boost to 3.8GHz


But I have been doing some digging of my own in these forums and I have seen rumors about a Kaby Lake CPU possibly coming out on the March Update and some improvements to the laptop itself.

Im not sure if these rumors are true or Apple will make them happen, I just want your opinion if I should buy the MacBook Pro now or wait instead?

Gee. From your previous posts on other threads I thought that you already owned a 2016 MBP. Did you return it?

Donald Barar
 
More like 8 months, but definitely not 5 months. a March update is extremely unlikely.
interesting, so a new update about once every eight months then. Hopefully things will get better with the next update.
 
Now way in hell there is a March update. The longest update wait period followed by the shortest?

Even if there is, a processor bump isn't worth waiting for on its own.
 
Gee. From your previous posts on other threads I thought that you already owned a 2016 MBP. Did you return it?

Donald Barar

I think you're confusing him with thesaint024, they're using the same profile picture. I was kinda irritated as well when I entered this thread :))
 
You have an early 2011 MBP, as do I. Get yourself a Samsung 850EVO SSD and you'll get two more years out of it. Maybe more. Then you can wait for the March update that will never happen. Not for MBP anyway.

I see January around CES they announce MM, Imac, and MP update. March or April will be the MB and Ipad update and WWDC we get iphone 8 Maybe in Fall2017 we get Kaby Lake MBPs but honestly people here act like it's night/day faster with Kaby Lake vs. Skylake. It's 10% improvement at best. 10 cents on the dollar. Come on.
 
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I'd say very un likely about march, except if the rumour about the proposed battery solution being ditched last minute is true, if the battery issues continue, we could see a replacement sooner with the solution that was first designed , if they fix the issue, and if the rumour is true.

I'd wait if you can
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You are almost certainly correct.

A pity, because I think it their best.

The new one is much better build quality, really nice finish, but I agree with you I prefer the 2015 chassis, and I got both
 
What do you guys think? When would you expect to see the MacBook Pros with a Kaby Lake processor. I mean its just changing the chip and doing some minor optimizing and adjustments.

I would love to know what predictions you make of it.

As somebody who has worked both inside and outside that CPU manufacturer, hardware development is never just "minor adjustments" between generations. Secondly, benefits of Kaby Lake are minuscule on 15" quad-core laptops. I can't see a situation which would make it very worthwhile Apple not to just skip Kaby Lake and focus on Coffee Lake (much later) for quad-core, and possibly Cannonlake for ultraportables. That is not going to happen in March, though.
 
No. Nobody knows when Apple will release an update. Maybe late 2017, maybe later. It's your money, spend it how you please. All's I'm sayin' is that this iteration's battery is flawed. For me that's enough to not buy. See the front page: Consumer Report recommends not buying too.

Up to you.
Thanks for sharing!
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Gee. From your previous posts on other threads I thought that you already owned a 2016 MBP. Did you return it?

Donald Barar
Ive been using my friends 15" MBP TB for a few weeks now, I've gotten some good usage and insight to how it performs.
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You have an early 2011 MBP, as do I. Get yourself a Samsung 850EVO SSD and you'll get two more years out of it. Maybe more. Then you can wait for the March update that will never happen. Not for MBP anyway.

I see January around CES they announce MM, Imac, and MP update. March or April will be the MB and Ipad update and WWDC we get iphone 8 Maybe in Fall2017 we get Kaby Lake MBPs but honestly people here act like it's night/day faster with Kaby Lake vs. Skylake. It's 10% improvement at best. 10 cents on the dollar. Come on.
I got the 1TB Samsung SSD after two years of purchasing the 2011 MBP. I replaced my optical drive with that extra SSD. It does have some OK speeds occasionally but overall it is not usable.
 
I was planning on buying a new MacBook Pro for College and Video editing since my old MacBook Pro is hopeless. I was planning on buying the MacBook Pro with these specifications:
- 15"
- 1TB SSD
- Radeon 460
- i7 2.9GHz Turbo Boost to 3.8GHz


But I have been doing some digging of my own in these forums and I have seen rumors about a Kaby Lake CPU possibly coming out on the March Update and some improvements to the laptop itself.

Im not sure if these rumors are true or Apple will make them happen, I just want your opinion if I should buy the MacBook Pro now or wait instead?

Wait until the originally intended battery design comes out via a revision:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-12-20/how-apple-alienated-mac-loyalists
 
I've really gotta question this whole 'terraced battery' idea. Looking at the inside of the 13" and 15" there doesn't seem to be any need for terracing with the current design. The device doesn't taper and where the batteries are now doesn't have any sort of taper, either. Where exactly would Apple benefit from terracing? Just seems like all they can do is put bigger traditional batteries there.

15": https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/cBFfrfQPrPBFgV1s.huge

13": https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/gKHAnRHKaCjSYa3L.huge

13 nTB": https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/rHEntBKH24INysSo.huge

(seeing that empty space on the 13" and 15" is frustrating, no doubt)
 
I've really gotta question this whole 'terraced battery' idea. Looking at the inside of the 13" and 15" there doesn't seem to be any need for terracing with the current design. The device doesn't taper and where the batteries are now doesn't have any sort of taper, either. Where exactly would Apple benefit from terracing? Just seems like all they can do is put bigger traditional batteries there.

I suspect someone confused "terraced" with "non rectangular". To make the batteries bigger, some cells would need to have irregular shapes. Specifically the corner cells in the 15". Any bigger, and they'd have to have one corner knocked off because of the gusset in the frame.
 
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I suspect someone confused "terraced" with "non rectangular". To make the batteries bigger, some cells would need to have irregular shapes. Specifically the corner cells in the 15". Any bigger, and they'd have to have one corner knocked off because of the gusset in the frame.
Fair point, but really that's the only spot and that little amount of space isn't going to greatly increase capacity over just making the cells extend further down to the bottom of the casing, IMO.

What's most frustrating to me is the middle 2 cells on the 15" really look like they could have been bigger. I've heard people make the case for the left/right side cells needing to be smaller to accommodate air intake from the vents for cooling (I could see that), but I can't see that being the case for the middle cells. Maybe Apple really wanted to hit that weight target which is silly given the already diminished total capacity from the prior model.
 
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The last March event i was hoping for gave us - new watch bands.

Don't hold your breath. If you need it now - get the best deal. There will be a new revision. Kaby Lake is going to be released at the end of Q1 2017. This does not mean that Apple will release a new revision.
 
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