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I am looking at a factory unlocked 6 plus that is jailbroken. Seems like a pretty good deal. What are your thoughts about buying a jailbroken device? iOS 9. TIA
 
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Depends on you, really. It's not like jail breaking is permanent. If you change your mind, you can DFU restore and you're good.
 
I personally look for a device than CAN or has been jailbroken (ios 8.4.1-9.0.2 ATM), but there is no issues with buying a previously JBed iphone. My current IP6S+ 128gb I bought is on 9.0.
 
Don't buy one! They can receive viruses and you won't be able to sell a jail broken phone on. Stick to a originial iPhone :)
 
Don't buy one! They can receive viruses and you won't be able to sell a jail broken phone on. Stick to a originial iPhone :)

If you run into problem, you just need to DFU restore the phone and the jailbrake and any associated issues will be gone.
 
Don't buy one! They can receive viruses and you won't be able to sell a jail broken phone on. Stick to a originial iPhone :)
You are just wrong.

Jailbreaking an iPhone does not result in any more or any less security than a stock iPhone.

But if you jailbreak and insist on making yourself vulnerable due to your actions then, yes, that is possible,

So your argument should be that if you do this and are very, very stupid with what you do with your device after you jailbreak it you can recieve viruses.

As to not being able to sell a jailbroken phone on, are you serious? OP is considering buying a jailbroken iPhone! That blows your statement out of the water right there!

Finally, please do not quote "Keyraider" at me. That's a tired old argument used to rebut jailbreaking that completely ignores the fact that greedy people trying to pirate apps put themselves in the spot to be taken advantage of.
 
Or utter lack of knowledge! :(

I dunno about all that...
I mean, he may've not been 100% correct, but then again... you outright lied when you said: "security is no better & no worse on a jailbroken iPhone".

That's wrong and (I hope) you know it!!!
Obviously you simply CANNOT get the security updates when everyone else does if you're jb... you have to wait until that version gets a jb.
Pretty much EVERY jb device is running a few iterations of software back, & thus all have outdated security.

Sooooooo...... while I cannot agree with what the other poster said- there is a certain bit of advice about those that live in glass houses and their propensity for rock throwing that you might want to acquaint yourself with.
 
If this were 2009, I would have recommended a jailbroken iPhone. However, it is not 2009 and it is 2016. Cyber security is now a more prevalent threat today than it was only a few years ago. I would rather pay for apps and support developers, and have the security of using stock iOS, instead of having the benefit of getting cracked apps for "free" illegally.
 
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If this were 2009, I would have recommended a jailbroken iPhone. However, it is not 2009 and it is 2016. Cyber security is now a more prevalent threat today than it was only a few years ago. I would rather pay for apps and support developers, and have the security of using stock iOS, instead of having the benefit of getting cracked apps for "free" illegally.
To my knowledge of my jailbreak apps of the Cydia Store from at least 2005 through 2016 there are no "free" illegal apps. I pay for my Cydia apps and support those developers (they probably need it more than Apple hired devs), and never download non Cydia trusted sources.
Only if a person seeks suspect sources and downloads them (the very, very stupid part Eyoungren mentioned I believe) could a user attract problems.
And, IMO, if a user wants to get free games/ or cracked free apps that user should get what they deserve.
What ill problems have you encountered from your jailbreak experience?
 
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I pay for my Cydia apps and support those developers (they probably need it more than Apple hired devs)


Lol!!!! =)
Sooooooo..... you are under the opinion that the millions of developers that have apps in the actual legit App Store were "hired" by Apple???
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.......!!!!!!! =D
Omg, you guys crack me up!
I love it when people want to give others advice on highly technical issues, pretending like they understand them, then drop the ball & accidentally show that they are actually clueless as to the most fundamental knowledge of how the industry works at all.
No offense... you may be a nice guy, but you probably aren't the one that should be meting out advice to others on whether or not they should compromise their security on their personal mobile devices.
 
Lol!!!! =)
Sooooooo..... you are under the opinion that the millions of developers that have apps in the actual legit App Store were "hired" by Apple???
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.......!!!!!!! =D
Omg, you guys crack me up!
I love it when people want to give others advice on highly technical issues, pretending like they understand them, then drop the ball & accidentally show that they are actually clueless as to the most fundamental knowledge of how the industry works at all.
No offense... you may be a nice guy, but you probably aren't the one that should be meting out advice to others on whether or not they should compromise their security on their personal mobile devices.
No offense taken. Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I was only speaking from my experience on jailbreak and it's security.
As far as hiring, does Apple not need to approve apps, to which then they make money from these developers on their store, and also pay them? Sounds like a hired employee to me. I did not mean in any traditional employment that you may have misconstrued.

In agreement with you, it also cracks me up when people post about things not from experience but instead what they read on the internet and conjecture. What's your ill experience with jailbreak and apps that can positively add to this thread that can help the OP with his/her decision?
 
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I dunno about all that...
I mean, he may've not been 100% correct, but then again... you outright lied when you said: "security is no better & no worse on a jailbroken iPhone".

That's wrong and (I hope) you know it!!!
Obviously you simply CANNOT get the security updates when everyone else does if you're jb... you have to wait until that version gets a jb.
Pretty much EVERY jb device is running a few iterations of software back, & thus all have outdated security.

Sooooooo...... while I cannot agree with what the other poster said- there is a certain bit of advice about those that live in glass houses and their propensity for rock throwing that you might want to acquaint yourself with.
Really?

Perhaps you can acquaint me with the differences in security between 9.0.2 and 9.2 then please.
 
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If this were 2009, I would have recommended a jailbroken iPhone. However, it is not 2009 and it is 2016. Cyber security is now a more prevalent threat today than it was only a few years ago. I would rather pay for apps and support developers, and have the security of using stock iOS, instead of having the benefit of getting cracked apps for "free" illegally.
So you are saying that anyone who jailbreaks is doing it to get cracked apps?

The Apple misinformation campaign against jailbreaking is strong in this thread.

That's not the reason I jailbreak.
 
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Lol!!!! =)
Sooooooo..... you are under the opinion that the millions of developers that have apps in the actual legit App Store were "hired" by Apple???
Hahahahahahahahahahaha.......!!!!!!! =D
Omg, you guys crack me up!
I love it when people want to give others advice on highly technical issues, pretending like they understand them, then drop the ball & accidentally show that they are actually clueless as to the most fundamental knowledge of how the industry works at all.
No offense... you may be a nice guy, but you probably aren't the one that should be meting out advice to others on whether or not they should compromise their security on their personal mobile devices.
I suppose there is a reason you are not over in the jailbreak forums here on MacRumors educating us about the error of our ways?

I mean really, if we are all so wrong and so less smart than you are then that is certainly the one spot on MacRumors you need to bring to heel with your knowledge!
 
OK, so the argument seems to be that because of a jailbreak most jailbreakers will be on older versions of iOS which thusly makes them less secure.

Sure, I can agree with that because people on older versions of iOS stock are also less secure.

But from the standpoint of the jailbreak itself making you less secure just because you jailbroke. No.

Which is the point I was arguing above.
 
I suppose there is a reason you are not over in the jailbreak forums here on MacRumors educating us about the error of our ways?

I mean really, if we are all so wrong and so less smart than you are then that is certainly the one spot on MacRumors you need to bring to heel with your knowledge!

Adorable as you're being... I'm not gonna bite! =D
I actually did NOT act condescending at all, I merely called you out for it!! ;0)
One person made one valid point about jb phones being less secure and you tore into them!!!
I seem to remember a comment like "they know nothing at all"... does that sound familiar??
Ouch. What a rude & uncalled for thing to say!
I'm sorry that when you got a teeny swat on your bottom for making bold sweeping incorrect pompous statements you took it as an attack on the entire jb community... it wasn't. I'm only saying that YOU are wrong (and VERY combative, btw)... not everyone or anyone else.
Toodles.
 
I dunno about all that...
I mean, he may've not been 100% correct, but then again... you outright lied when you said: "security is no better & no worse on a jailbroken iPhone".

That's wrong and (I hope) you know it!!!
Obviously you simply CANNOT get the security updates when everyone else does if you're jb... you have to wait until that version gets a jb.
Pretty much EVERY jb device is running a few iterations of software back, & thus all have outdated security.

Sooooooo...... while I cannot agree with what the other poster said- there is a certain bit of advice about those that live in glass houses and their propensity for rock throwing that you might want to acquaint yourself with.

Actually there's right and wrong on both sides.
sometimes you get security updates faster and more targeted to seal exploits from the JB scene via cydia patches that you do from Apple themselves. We saw that many times in the past if you were following the scene or iOS security in general.
But mostly is personal preference.
But again just because you're on 9.0.2 instead of 9.2 it doesn't mean your device is not secure or security is outdated. Most security updates in general is patches just to close off exploits used to JB a device.

If this were 2009, I would have recommended a jailbroken iPhone. However, it is not 2009 and it is 2016. Cyber security is now a more prevalent threat today than it was only a few years ago. I would rather pay for apps and support developers, and have the security of using stock iOS, instead of having the benefit of getting cracked apps for "free" illegally.

Not everyone JB just to get cracked pirated apps.
 
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Actually there's right and wrong on both sides.
sometimes you get security updates faster and more targeted to seal exploits from the JB scene via cydia patches that you do from Apple themselves. We saw that many times in the past if you were following the scene or iOS security in general.
But mostly is personal preference.
But again just because you're on 9.0.2 instead of 9.2 it doesn't mean your device is not secure or security is outdated. Most security updates in general is patches just to close off exploits used to JB a device.



Not everyone JB just to get cracked pirated apps.

VERY level-headed response! Thank you.
I have nothing against the jb community whatsoever!!
Actually, it reminds me of the good old days, when people would tweak their PCs with registry hacks & whatnot, to make them a little less boring than Bill had planned for us. =)
However... from a layman' standpoint (pretty much anyone that would have to ask: "hey... should I jb"), I'd say "no".
It sounds like we are both of the same mind with regards to the opinion that people should pay for the apps that they choose to use, so that pretty much leaves the customization & tweaking aspects.
You have to admit that Apple has slowly been adding in features that were previously ONLY available via jb (from Notification Center to Control Center, Siri while unplugged, etc.)... so now more than ever, unless you enjoy the tweaking/customizing, it seems hardly worth the effort, since- as noted... after each update, you need to do it all over again.
Kind of a pita, with diminishing returns.
 
Adorable as you're being... I'm not gonna bite! =D
I actually did NOT act condescending at all, I merely called you out for it!! ;0)
One person made one valid point about jb phones being less secure and you tore into them!!!
I seem to remember a comment like "they know nothing at all"... does that sound familiar??
Ouch. What a rude & uncalled for thing to say!
I'm sorry that when you got a teeny swat on your bottom for making bold sweeping incorrect pompous statements you took it as an attack on the entire jb community... it wasn't. I'm only saying that YOU are wrong (and VERY combative, btw)... not everyone or anyone else.
Toodles.
You think I've done something wrong.

I don't think I have.

If that makes you think I'm a child, I can't help that. And I refuse to engage in your morality play any longer.
 
VERY level-headed response! Thank you.
I have nothing against the jb community whatsoever!!
Actually, it reminds me of the good old days, when people would tweak their PCs with registry hacks & whatnot, to make them a little less boring than Bill had planned for us. =)
However... from a layman' standpoint (pretty much anyone that would have to ask: "hey... should I jb"), I'd say "no".
It sounds like we are both of the same mind with regards to the opinion that people should pay for the apps that they choose to use, so that pretty much leaves the customization & tweaking aspects.
You have to admit that Apple has slowly been adding in features that were previously ONLY available via jb (from Notification Center to Control Center, Siri while unplugged, etc.)... so now more than ever, unless you enjoy the tweaking/customizing, it seems hardly worth the effort, since- as noted... after each update, you need to do it all over again.
Kind of a pita, with diminishing returns.

I hear you.
I tell many people not to JB when they tell me man I just want to get free games and not pay anything for apps.
Or when they ask how to JB and what do you do if its JB etc...
They have no clue and they're not willing to put the time, research and effort into in and a few weeks later they come to me like "dude my phone is messed up, its stuck at the Apple logo or it runs like crap and everything freezes and crashes. They go and install everything they see on cydia whether that's compatible with their device and ios version or not and just load it up with tons of hacks that are poorly coded or buggy.
Its not for everyone for sure. Like you said Apple has been slowly adding many aspects of the most popular JB tweaks so its not like it was back in the ios 3 or ios 4.0 days.
 
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