I'm looking to upgrade with Verizon as well. Was looking at the Eris but from what I understand the software it has now is not the updated software. Think I'm going to go with the Blackberry Curve 2 instead. I think it comes out this week or maybe next.
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Should I go for the Verizon Android?
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The Eris software will be upgraded soon. Just hold out a bit longer. Stay away from the iPhone and Blackberry--they are antiquated.
That's not the reason. I think you're surprised you like the Droid and that's great. I'm not surprised I like the Droid. I've said before that I'd love for a Droid-level Android phone (or PDA) to be available for me to play with without being bound to a Verizon contract. Don't mistake my ability to articulate some real Droid criticisms for blind-iPhone lust. You'd miss out on an otherwise thoughtful discussion simply because your newfound burst of gadget-love has left you leaning towards a bias. I will continue to repeatedly toy with the Droid every opportunity I get, when there is a working unit at a Verizon kiosk. Fun stuff. I will always be a pragmatist though.
~ CB
The Android uses the old hardware designed for the unsuccessful windows mobile. That's why the droid is limited to about 200MB of installed apps. You can't even upgrade the core OS of Android, aka last year's android phone cannot take this year's android OS because of weak hardware. The Android is sooooo advanced.
iPhone, on the other hand, has a modern processor and platform. FYI iPhone is rated the BEST consumer and business smart phone by J.D. Power.
The Android uses the old hardware designed for the unsuccessful windows mobile. That's why the droid is limited to about 200MB of installed apps. You can't even upgrade the core OS of Android, aka last year's android phone cannot take this year's android OS because of weak hardware. The Android is sooooo advanced.
iPhone, on the other hand, has a modern processor and platform. FYI iPhone is rated the BEST consumer and business smart phone by J.D. Power.
Where are you getting this information? All of it is wrong.
You can upgrade the core OS, I've done it and know many others who have. I went from 1.5 to 1.6 to a beta version of 2.0 on one device. So that point is inaccurate.
As far as the "old hardware" point, the Motorola Droid uses the same ARM Cortex A8 that is in the iPhone 3GS and Palm Pre, so how can you say that one has a modern processor and platform and one doesn't?
Frankly, the total system lockdown present in the iPhone, with zero customization, is more reminiscent of the "antiquated" platforms than android.
And as far as the 200mb app limitation...this is a common iPhone user point to make and it's wrong. The app limitation doesn't exist, because Android apps do not behave like iPhone apps which load as much as 700mb of irrelevant crap into your phone...the core app code is loaded into the phone and the additional content (worlds for games, maps, etc) are loaded onto the SD card. In function, it is exactly the same as the iPhone.
As far as JD Power ratings, we all know how useful those are. If you read into the ratings, HTC was rated above Apple in "handset features" and RIM absolutely smoked them both in "battery performance." An aggregate rating is not a useful piece of information for making an informed decision to purchase a product.
I suggest learning of which you speak before spreading misinformation. Just because you love the iPhone doesn't mean that nothing else is allowed to exist or possibly be even better than it. I have both an iPhone and a Droid and both do different things better than the other.
But the openness of the Android platform is a big, big plus in its favor.
This. feelthefire>Consultant.
I really like the iPhone, but Android is used on MULTIPLE phones across MULTIPLE carriers. The Sony Ericsson Rachael that will be coming out has the slickest of all UI's I've seen on a mobile platform.
What's great about the Android phones is that for most of them, you can switch the UI to another version. My Buddy has been toying all weekend with his MyPhone and putting different ROMS on it.
Android, sadly, is gonna kick Apple's ass.
Upgrade core os on old phone: that is not officially offered at this time. You would have to pirated it. OMG you are doing something the android makers don't want you to do at this time, so surely android is so open.
200 MB app install allowance. That's old hardware design. As of now there are no games that installs on 2 separate partitions.
Ability to "customize" surely brought windows mobile and linux to the forefront of their market space.
No single device is better OVERALL. Are you going to carry a HTC glued to a RIM? No.
Do you know the most popular android app is one where it kills background tasks? It doesn't tell you which task you can kill either, so you have to guess which background task to kill. That's a big step in usability. Keep telling yourself that.
This has a 4 part article on why Android will not be as successful as iPhone.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/...oid-and-apples-iphone-os-as-software-markets/
200 MB app install allowance. That's old hardware design. As of now there are no games that installs on 2 separate partitions.
Ability to "customize" surely brought windows mobile and linux to the forefront of their market space.
No single device is better OVERALL. Are you going to carry a HTC glued to a RIM? No.
Do you know the most popular android app is one where it kills background tasks? It doesn't tell you which task you can kill either, so you have to guess which background task to kill. That's a big step in usability. Keep telling yourself that.
This has a 4 part article on why Android will not be as successful as iPhone.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/...oid-and-apples-iphone-os-as-software-markets/
Much of what he was saying is TRUE. It's just questionable how meaningful it will be to the average consumer. Your explanations mostly "contextualize" his statements, but you're not rendering most of them "false". I DO take exception to both of you acting as if you can compare the iPhone to the Android hardware. I think part of the problem comes from the OP referring to the Droid as the "Verizon Android". I'm sure the Droid will not be the only Verizon Android-based phone, and I doubt they will all have the same level of power.
Hacking a new OS into your phone is NOT a legitimate upgrade path for your average consumer (you know this), and early Android phones did not have enough storage space to make a full OS upgrade an easy fit. Unlike the iPhone that has one LARGE flash drive for easy, Android phones are based on the Windows Mobile reference model, and as such, have a small amount of space dedicated to OS and apps and a LARGE amount of space in the form of an SD card, that can be used for media, video, music... and material downloaded by apps that need more storage than their installation area provides.
http://images.appleinsider.com/iphoneandroid112109.003.png
I've been wrestling with how that will play out. I think all the "nerdy" Android users quickly laugh this off, by saying they have an app that allows them to break Google's restriction and store apps on their SD card... but it doesn't make much sense to me in the long run.
This is true.
We'll see. I've said before that the "openess" of Android brings its own substantial risks, and these risks will ONLY be borne out when there is enough traction on the platform (read: enough victims), and not before. Earlier this year Google had to update its Developer Phones such that they cannot download "paid apps", allowing hackers an open environment for easily determining copy-protection work-arounds. This will hardly stop the problem however, just as their $25 registration fee will do little to prevent Android Marketplace "spam" (for spammers, $25 isn't hardly a disincentive).
The 24-48 hour app return policy is a specific attempt to make consumers more comfortable purchasing apps that have little moderation, though it immediately creates a "rental" atmosphere for everything in the market. Not exactly an ideal scenario for small developers of inexpensive apps whose entertainment value lasts much longer than a movie, but less than the 24 hour "trial" period.
~ CB
I don`t like the droid!
Hi, i use the iPhone 3G and i buy a Motorola Milestone (european Version of the droid) last week. So, it is a nice mobilephone with a great keyboard and it works very, very fast (much faster them my 3G).
But i send it back after some days because the multimedia features are bad.
I love music and i have use the iPod of my iPhone very much. The musicplayer of the droid/Milestone is not so good like thie iPhone iPod!
It don`t have an qualizer, cover flow or other usefull stuff. And I thik that the sound of the iPhone is a little bit better them the droid (beats by dr. dre headphones).
Hi, i use the iPhone 3G and i buy a Motorola Milestone (european Version of the droid) last week. So, it is a nice mobilephone with a great keyboard and it works very, very fast (much faster them my 3G).
But i send it back after some days because the multimedia features are bad.
I love music and i have use the iPod of my iPhone very much. The musicplayer of the droid/Milestone is not so good like thie iPhone iPod!
It don`t have an qualizer, cover flow or other usefull stuff. And I thik that the sound of the iPhone is a little bit better them the droid (beats by dr. dre headphones).
It is nice to see the Android doing well and starting to compete.
I have to stick with my old original iPhone hacked on T-Mobile since if I get a new subsidized phone, my monthly charges are going to go way up and I can't afford it right now (carriers make you get some sort of expensive data plan with it).
I think that the proliferation of Android options to the many different carriers will make Apple think twice about AT&T's exclusivity...
I have to stick with my old original iPhone hacked on T-Mobile since if I get a new subsidized phone, my monthly charges are going to go way up and I can't afford it right now (carriers make you get some sort of expensive data plan with it).
I think that the proliferation of Android options to the many different carriers will make Apple think twice about AT&T's exclusivity...
