Thanx. I think that's right. Is window frame the same thing as full screen mode with menu bar?
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Should I return MBP & go to Windows 7?
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It's certainly encouraging that you find that there are no problems with CS5. I did explain in some detail what the issue was a few posts down from the OP, complete with screen shots. Maybe you didn't see that post. Certainly from what I'm reading there are some pretty significant issues with CS5 especially on the new hardware/video cards on the MBP. The Adobe forum has numerous threads on this. Perhaps your lab uses hardware not as affected by some of the bugs. Anyhow, I think your implied tone that I lack knowledge of CS5 is correct. Hence my discovery that changing from "standard screen mode" to "full screen mode with menu bars" appears to make PS behave as one would expect in spaces and command tab. I think your assumption that I would be switching OS's if I went to Win7 is false however. I'm as comfortable on both platforms. I am curious, however, why you think it would be better to go to Win7 for serious web development. Perhaps you could elaborate, I mean other than the MS specific client side stuff which is obvious.
Sometimes the truth hurts. Just because someone is a member in MR doesn't mean that he has to be blindfolded Apple fanboy who cannot see the shortcoming of Macs. OP asked which is better and the honest answer is that a PC will be faster than his MBP, no doubt on that.
Did you expect that we all just say that Mac is better because this is Apple forum even though it's significantly slower in terms of raw performance?
I do not run many programs on my Mac, but what are you referring to, specifically, with raw performance? I have had better performance on my Mac, even compared to PCs with greater specs, with general use and some mild ProTools use. Trying to gain insight into where the information comes from as it seems people from either side of the fence have "issues" with the other. They all are electronics, have their benefits, and have their downfalls.
I am guessing some, including myself, find it interesting others would want to spend time in a forum for a line of products they don't particularly care for. I could participate in a Sports forum but I am a music guy and wouldn't see the benefit even though they are both forms of entertainment.
Four cores running at ~2.8GHz is simply faster than two running at ~2.4GHz. Then add more RAM, faster HDs and better GPU and it will run circles around any MBP. The key point is that OP was not satisfied with OS X
I, at least, wholeheartedly disagree with him. I do web development (and other programming) professionally while studying for a CS degree. I would say that windows 7 is a vastly inferior platform for programming (web or otherwise), except if one is working in the .NET environment. Linux is slightly superior to OS X in this regard, but for a well rounded platform that also looks nice, nothing beats OS X.
The main reason is the terminal. While it's true that it has a steep learning curve, it is an incredible powerful tool. The DOS shell is a toy and the new Powershell product seems to be mostly directed at administration, not development. The difference between the DOS shell and the Unix shell is like the difference between MS Paint and Photoshop.
The other major advantage is that you can get a package manager for OS X that plays nice with the rest of the system. That means you can easily install the tool you need without searching around on various badly designed web pages in order to find the version you need for your particular system (+ mucking about with the PATH etc).
The only somewhat major problem with OS X for Java development in particular is that Apple have been notoriously slow to release versions that work with OS X. For Java 6 it took more that a year from Sun releasing versions for Windows and Linux until Apple followed suit. Also, Apple aren't exactly known for committing to long time support of any technology you might base your business on.
I actually resently tried to switch from OS X to windows development + cygwin at my job. I had to give it up after two weeks or risk insanity. Seriously, it was bad.
I have used both (older adobe products) with PCs and Macs. I think whatever format you are use to is the one you should go with. Some people know Windows very well and there is a learning curve switching to Mac/Mac applications. I do think Adobe products run better in Windows (not sure why). You could always buy Windows 7 and use Bootcamp but use whatever operating system/application you are most comfortable with.
Adobe's reply to OS X Spaces bugs... It's All Apple's fault
This is what a rep from Adobe wrote in reply to my query; please do report bugs with spaces to Apple; maybe they will be fixed one day:
Spaces is an OS level feature that Application don't write to, and don't really know about.
Photoshop is SUPPOSED to ignore Spaces - because Spaces is supposed to do it's work without changes to the application.
Previously, Apple blamed Spaces problems on Photoshop using Carbon APIs.
But now Photoshop CS5 uses all Cocoa APIs.
And Spaces still doesn't work.
Yes, you are seeing some serious bugs in Spaces.
And if you want them fixed, you need to talk to Apple.
This is what a rep from Adobe wrote in reply to my query; please do report bugs with spaces to Apple; maybe they will be fixed one day:
Spaces is an OS level feature that Application don't write to, and don't really know about.
Photoshop is SUPPOSED to ignore Spaces - because Spaces is supposed to do it's work without changes to the application.
Previously, Apple blamed Spaces problems on Photoshop using Carbon APIs.
But now Photoshop CS5 uses all Cocoa APIs.
And Spaces still doesn't work.
Yes, you are seeing some serious bugs in Spaces.
And if you want them fixed, you need to talk to Apple.