Should I trust this guy?

[firestarter]

I'm getting mixed advice.... And since he already has paid, has no negative feedback, yet. I think I will have to ship to him. I will have a signature confirmation as well as insurance. Is there anything else to prove that what I'm shipping is an iPad 2 / and was as described if there is a problem..?

edit: I also took a screenshot of the serial number through iTunes.

If he pays the extra for the expedited shipping, there's no extra risk.

I always ship next day using expedited - there's no problem. Just make sure you get a tracking number so that you can prove to Paypal (if necessary) that you shipped, and that it was delivered.

It's suspicious because it doesn't give enough time for cleared funds to arrived in the OP's bank account.

Paypal can still do a reversal even if you've taken funds into your account. The best way to prevent this is to follow eBay guidelines and ship using a tracking number to a confirmed address.

Scammers often pay by paypal then pick up personally... this means you have no proof of shipment (and the scammer can pretend that they didn't receive). In this case, the best advice is to get a signed receipt - and a photo of the buyer.

I don't get the advantage of selling on eBay over Craigslist locally. eBay is fully of scams and hefty fees.

eBay is a much bigger marketplace, and buyers tend to overbid. You get better prices.

I've sold 50+ items (including lots of higher value electronic/camera stuff) and haven't had a problem yet.

 

[matttye]

Perhaps I'm too trusting but I've always dispatched items as soon as the paypal payment has been sent, and items have always been sent to me in the same way. Even £1000+ items. Have never had a problem and we're talking about many hundreds of transactions.

I would perhaps take a more cautious approach if a buyer had no feedback or was overseas, but I really can't see the problem with this.

I've never had any problems either *touch wood* and I've sold smartphones and other expensive goods, but there are thousands and thousands of scam victims posting on websites like paypalsucks.com. It appears that even though the seller does everything right, they're still victims of chargebacks and can't do anything about it.

 

[old-wiz]

you can still be out of both the money and the iPad. Don't take a chance with someone who is moving.

 

[Stealthipad]

It's suspicious because it doesn't give enough time for cleared funds to arrived in the OP's bank account.

It is not required that the funds clear PayPal to the sellers account. Sometimes that could take days. If PayPal says it is OK to ship, then THEY are responsible if something goes wrong with the fund transfer, not the seller.

 

[motoleo]

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It shouldn't take that long for the funds to clear. It really shouldn't.

And about the Craigslist incident. I wouldn't be selling a golden necklace. That just sounds so cliche. Craigslist is all about community, you might even end up selling to somebody you already know.

 

[srf4real]

you can still be out of both the money and the iPad. Don't take a chance with someone who is moving.

Don't sell your crap on Ebay if you intend to distrust a winning bidder who's already paid with Paypal.. just because he'd like his item quickly. Jees what country is he moving to? NONEYA. I hope you've given the guy his merchandise already, or I'd be downrating your Ebay account by now if it were me.

 

[RetiredInFl]

That's why people should agree to meet at Police Stations.. it suits both legitimate buyers AND sellers

I've heard that suggestion before, but if you mean IN Police stations I don't think the police's job is to oversee CL business and frankly I don't think, in many towns, they would even allow people in the buildings to do cash for merchandise exchanges. Maybe in some small towns it would work but around here, post 9/11, you can't even get into the station without major effort (a specific person to see etc). They have a "walk-up" window in a small lobby to "pre-screen" you. Outside the station won't make any difference. Even with that when the guy gives you cash whose to say he isn't sitting outside where you are parked waiting to mug you? With CL you have zero protection and zero security.

What I like about eBay is the relative anonymity. If you are careful and follow the rules you'll have no problem and can remain in the relative security of your home and for the most part be protected. Of course that comes at a price $$$.

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It shouldn't take that long for the funds to clear. It really shouldn't.

And about the Craigslist incident. I wouldn't be selling a golden necklace. That just sounds so cliche. Craigslist is all about community, you might even end up selling to somebody you already know.

Why would a $280 gold necklace be any different than a $500+ iPad? As for CL being "about community," seriously now. Maybe if your "community" is Podunk Iowa Pop 2,450, yes, but in "the big city" it's all about selling and making money.

 

[Liquinn]

I'm not sure if you're being messed around by that guy or not. I guess only you can decide that as I've never sold on eBay; but go with what you think is right as the other members can only speculate. XD

 

[whoathere]

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If it were me bidding in eBay items all while knowing I'm moving shortly, I would ask the buyer if it were cool tO ship quicker if I won. You probably have nothing to worry about, but there are always those horror stories about eBay and PayPal.

 

[Epic Xbox Revie]

I will keep you guys up to date on this.. hopefully with good news to report.

He has paid for the extra shipping, so I will be shipping it out early Monday morning. We'll see on Thursday.

 

[miamialley]

One of the reasons eBay is safer:

On Dec. 21, Trenker and four of his children — ages 7, 8, 9 and 12 — drove from their home in Miramar to the Tivoli Gardens apartments in Deerfield Beach to sell an 18-inch gold necklace to a man who had identified himself as Galven.
Trenker's fiancee, Tonya Saiz, had put an advertisement on Craigslist several days earlier, hoping to sell the jewelry to raise some extra holiday money. But when, at the last minute, she could not show up for the sale, Trenker volunteered to go.
The transaction was scheduled for 3:30 p.m. in the apartment complex's parking lot. Trenker said there were no immediate signs that the deal was a setup. His children waited inside his white Chevy Avalanche. "It looked like some guy who wanted to buy a necklace," he said.
According to Trenker, the men who met him spoke briefly about the necklace. One suddenly snatched it and ran. Trenker gave chase. The men ran over a footbridge and into some brush. One of the supposed necklace buyers turned and fired 10 shots, emptying a .22-caliber pistol.


Full article: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0111230_1_bullet-holes-necklace-bullet-wounds.

You NEVER know who is going to show up. Aside from the Craigslist connection it's an interesting article. The guy was all over the early morning national TV shows.

I live in Miami, (where that happened more or less) so I'm familiar with that story.

If someone doesn't have enough sense to meet in a better place than the buyer's apartment parking lot, then they should stick to eBay. Of course, they'll be just as susceptible to the ebays scams I suppose.

And honestly, who buys a gold chain on CL? Hell, who SELLS one on there!

That's why people should agree to meet at Police Stations.. it suits both legitimate buyers AND sellers

This.

 

[Epic Xbox Revie]

Just updating this, everything turned out fine. Buyer got iPad before he "left" and paid promptly with no problems. Thanks

 

[iDvisic]

Just updating this, everything turned out fine. Buyer got iPad before he "left" and paid promptly with no problems. Thanks

Very good! Glad to hear it.

-->iDv.

 

[xMBPx]

:\ He has already paid the original $440. Advice on what I should do please?

NOOOOOOO

BIG NO.

Might not even be him.

Paypal is a scam and has no legitimate seller protection.

I lost $1300, because a guy claimed the transaction was unauthorized. Paypal took $1300 from my account, even tough the money was in my bank account.

Once paypal did an investigation, they tracked his IP and saw it was intact his paypal account, and him that made the transaction. so they sided with me and refunded my account.

A month later this guy files a chargeback with his credit card company since he paid with a card. Of course the company will side with the card holder, and Paypal did nothing for me. They wound up taking my account negative $1300 again, and started calling, threatening, etc. I finally paid them, and have been boycotting them ever since. They are trash, read up on them online.

Tell that guy to wait, or get lost.

 

[TxMacAddict]

One of the reasons eBay is safer:

On Dec. 21, Trenker and four of his children — ages 7, 8, 9 and 12 — drove from their home in Miramar to the Tivoli Gardens apartments in Deerfield Beach to sell an 18-inch gold necklace to a man who had identified himself as Galven.
Trenker's fiancee, Tonya Saiz, had put an advertisement on Craigslist several days earlier, hoping to sell the jewelry to raise some extra holiday money. But when, at the last minute, she could not show up for the sale, Trenker volunteered to go.
The transaction was scheduled for 3:30 p.m. in the apartment complex's parking lot. Trenker said there were no immediate signs that the deal was a setup. His children waited inside his white Chevy Avalanche. "It looked like some guy who wanted to buy a necklace," he said.
According to Trenker, the men who met him spoke briefly about the necklace. One suddenly snatched it and ran. Trenker gave chase. The men ran over a footbridge and into some brush. One of the supposed necklace buyers turned and fired 10 shots, emptying a .22-caliber pistol.


Full article: http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/20...0111230_1_bullet-holes-necklace-bullet-wounds.

You NEVER know who is going to show up. Aside from the Craigslist connection it's an interesting article. The guy was all over the early morning national TV shows.

This is why you talk to the buyer before to see if he is the type to hang out in a chevy avalanche in an apartment parking lot.

Offer to meet him the lobby of your bank with the goods and if he accepts he is most likely legit. You can get the money and then immediately hand it to the teller to deposit into your account. You can even ask your personal banker to help you with the transaction and sit at his desk while you do it. This type of transaction is much safer than ebay.

Agreeing to meet in an apartment parking lot to buy/sell expensive goods is very naive.

 

[RetiredInFl]

This is why you talk to the buyer before to see if he is the type to hang out in a chevy avalanche in an apartment parking lot.

Offer to meet him the lobby of your bank with the goods and if he accepts he is most likely legit. You can get the money and then immediately hand it to the teller to deposit into your account. You can even ask your personal banker to help you with the transaction and sit at his desk while you do it. This type of transaction is much safer than ebay.

Agreeing to meet in an apartment parking lot to buy/sell expensive goods is very naive.

First of all, WHERE you live makes a big difference in the "Craigslist experience." Live in New York City or live in Podunk Iowa DOES matter. The fact you need to go through all this "intrigue" is exactly why I won't deal with CL. Been buying & selling on eBay since 1998 including some very expensive stuff (artwork, electronics & professional camera equip) and only 1 time had a problem and eBay took care of immediately. If you know what your doing and how to properly do it you will have no problems. I'll give up the 6% as "insurance" and for the convenience. If folks want to run around to banks, police stations, coffee shops to complete a sale to make 6%-8% more all the power to them. As someone "well over 60" I'll leave all that excitement for the kids. As for "asking your personal banker" or going to the "local police dept" to help you consumate your sale, yea, right, try that in the big city. "Talking to your buyer" doesn't help. You never know what someone is up to by their voice. It would be quite naive to use that to make a judgement.

 

[Rafterman]

As long as the address you ship to is the address listed in PayPal, you ship it with signature required and optionally insurance (because insurance will not cover you if they rip you off) you are safe. If it is a scam, as long as you follow eBay's requirements you will be covered. It might take a while to collect, but you are covered. Make sure ALL communications between you and the seller are over eBay messaging as well because in the event of a scam eBay reads that. Been buying/selling on eBay for 14 years and only got scammed once but was covered with no problem.

This is correct IMO. As a veteran of 200 eBay transactions over 10 years myself, the buyer can ask for whatever they want, but as long as they don't change the confirmed address and the Paypal payment page says that the transaction is covered, you are OK.

 

[Epic Xbox Revie]

-Guy's brought this back up to say that everything was fine... No need to say don't do it...

 

[asleep]

Keep the money and the iPad...

He's leaving the country. What's he gonna do, send a drone in to collect???