Which would you prefer, camera as good as they can have it and NOT protrude, or camera has good as they can put in even if it protrudes?
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Should the iPad camera lens protrude? POLL
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I have owned iPads since the day before they were officially released in 2010.
Never used the rear camera. Just the front for FaceTime.
Never used the rear camera. Just the front for FaceTime.
No, but Apple doesn't care.
Its easy to do and people will still buy and they will still have decrease in iPad sales.
iPad has basically become iPods. iPhone makes up basically everything.
Its easy to do and people will still buy and they will still have decrease in iPad sales.
iPad has basically become iPods. iPhone makes up basically everything.
I'd prefer that it didn't.
I never use the camera in my iPad either so personally it annoys me, but I can understand others will probably appreciate the vastly improved camera in the new model.
I never use the camera in my iPad either so personally it annoys me, but I can understand others will probably appreciate the vastly improved camera in the new model.
Who are these people? I've seen tourists use the iPad mini as a camera, but not the 9.7", let alone the 12.9".
I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone that actually liked the protruding design. Unless someone just has terrible taste or something...
I know you can't defy the laws of physics to shrink lens' infinitely without a bulge and I get that. But they also didn't have to make it THAT thin either. Could've left it as thin as the iPad Air 1 and I would've been happy. Remember they called it air because it was a big deal how thin it was anyway?
Nobody was asking for a better back camera anyway. Front sure. Back? Not really. They made huge improvements and it's weird to complain, but as someone that never took pics with my iPad, I don't care
I know you can't defy the laws of physics to shrink lens' infinitely without a bulge and I get that. But they also didn't have to make it THAT thin either. Could've left it as thin as the iPad Air 1 and I would've been happy. Remember they called it air because it was a big deal how thin it was anyway?
Nobody was asking for a better back camera anyway. Front sure. Back? Not really. They made huge improvements and it's weird to complain, but as someone that never took pics with my iPad, I don't care
I really don't know. I'm trying to convince myself there are legitimately people who will use it, therefore the protruding camera is a worthwhile pain point. My personal preference would have been lousy camera but 4GB RAM.
Yup, no bias here on the forums where people come to complain about what they don't like.I really don't know. I'm trying to convince myself there are legitimately people who will use it, therefore the protruding camera is a worthwhile pain point. My personal preference would have been lousy camera but 4GB RAM.
Fill yer' boots. If you don't get 150,000,001 votes against you can't claim "most people."
Considering it potentially might be used with apple pencil in education, etc , where people place it flat on a table, it seems the protruding camera was a major oversight in this scenario.
I don't think it's going to be as bad as people think. Especially since you can use your other hand to hold it down and it will reject your touch input while using the Pencil.
no. Especially for an ipad that people will want to use laying flat on a table to draw on. If you're just holding it in your hand or resting on your lap its less important. Also do we want to be encouraging people to hold up a massive tablet and use as a camera?
I think its down to use of the iPad for example, when I get one I know I'll be putting a case on it so it will level it out and it won't bother me.
I'm fully aware most people may not use a case or there could a lot bought into there jobs etc and the case won't be necessary. The IPP maybe placed on a workstation and having that bump will become extremely annoying.
I'm fully aware most people may not use a case or there could a lot bought into there jobs etc and the case won't be necessary. The IPP maybe placed on a workstation and having that bump will become extremely annoying.
looking forward to the first youtube videos of people drawing on it while it is rocking back and forth.
Also the first pictures where peoples' nice new smart covers have a ding in them where the camera lens has dug in when the cover is folded behind the ipad.
Also the first pictures where peoples' nice new smart covers have a ding in them where the camera lens has dug in when the cover is folded behind the ipad.
You left out the choice of don't care or prefer it didn't have a back camera.
I've never laid my iPad flat on a hard surface. I always put something underneath it, like the leather sleeve I keep it in.
I understand having the camera for scanning documents and stuff, but I did I like using my eye phone for that purpose instead.
I've never laid my iPad flat on a hard surface. I always put something underneath it, like the leather sleeve I keep it in.
I understand having the camera for scanning documents and stuff, but I did I like using my eye phone for that purpose instead.
I will make a judgement once I've seen it in person and if it causes a problem when typing or drawing on the iPad while it lays flat, errr... it's a bit of a fail. But not a deal breaker.
I rarely use the camera in my current iPad 3. But it can be useful: scanning documents, taking a quick snap of my daughter doing something hilarious or just taking pictures that don't need to be top quality for inserting directly into an email or eBay listing etc.
It's interesting that the 9.7 Pro intro movie Apple showed had many clips of 3D models and architectural drawings. I am an Architect, so appear to be Apples target audience. I can see how the 9.7 iPad pro could be the ultimate field device. Showing clients drawings, 3D mock-ups, portfolios photos and mood boards. I could mark up drawings and models on the fly. It would also be very useful when carrying out surveys of buildings, drawing up dimensions with the pencil and taking reference photos without having having to swap between a clipboard, different coloured pens, camera and laser measure. I decent camera would be a bonus (as is the flash, especially when the electrics are off in an old building). I think the flush fitting camera from the Air 2 would have been more than sufficient. This 6s camera module is complete overkill.
So on paper, this new 9.7 Pro would be perfect for me. I've looked at the 12.9 Pro, but it would be too unwieldy and cumbersome, especially as some surveys can take 2-3 hours.
However, architectural drawings can be very large, complicated, multilayered PDFs. Modern 3D models are also increasingly heavyweight, containing infinite detail on every aspect of the building. I just don't think 2Gb of RAM is going to cut it for long. Being self employed, I have to think very carefully about the longevity of large investments. I'd need to spend about £750 (~$1070) all in to have the 9.7 inch pro that I need, with a Pencil and decent case for using in the field. I'm not sure if I can justify the decision commercially if this iPad can't cope 18 months down the line.
I rarely use the camera in my current iPad 3. But it can be useful: scanning documents, taking a quick snap of my daughter doing something hilarious or just taking pictures that don't need to be top quality for inserting directly into an email or eBay listing etc.
It's interesting that the 9.7 Pro intro movie Apple showed had many clips of 3D models and architectural drawings. I am an Architect, so appear to be Apples target audience. I can see how the 9.7 iPad pro could be the ultimate field device. Showing clients drawings, 3D mock-ups, portfolios photos and mood boards. I could mark up drawings and models on the fly. It would also be very useful when carrying out surveys of buildings, drawing up dimensions with the pencil and taking reference photos without having having to swap between a clipboard, different coloured pens, camera and laser measure. I decent camera would be a bonus (as is the flash, especially when the electrics are off in an old building). I think the flush fitting camera from the Air 2 would have been more than sufficient. This 6s camera module is complete overkill.
So on paper, this new 9.7 Pro would be perfect for me. I've looked at the 12.9 Pro, but it would be too unwieldy and cumbersome, especially as some surveys can take 2-3 hours.
However, architectural drawings can be very large, complicated, multilayered PDFs. Modern 3D models are also increasingly heavyweight, containing infinite detail on every aspect of the building. I just don't think 2Gb of RAM is going to cut it for long. Being self employed, I have to think very carefully about the longevity of large investments. I'd need to spend about £750 (~$1070) all in to have the 9.7 inch pro that I need, with a Pencil and decent case for using in the field. I'm not sure if I can justify the decision commercially if this iPad can't cope 18 months down the line.
Protruding camera does not effect my choice as I will be using a case. The device is far to slippery to carry naked. It is just not as big a deal as "some" make it.
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No it shouldn't, but then it shouldn't protrude on the iPhone, but then Apple's obsession over thin designs is causing other design features to look rather awkward and imo very un-apple like
I'd like to say its the smart phone battle, but I don't think anyone else is even massively fussed of the 'thin-ness' of a phone.
I would prefer a flush camera on the iPhone but I can't say I notice it at the moment, as mine has a case on which adds a small amount of bulk, but I do see your point!
Just put the tablet on a table - a lacquered or similar surface - i bet it looks great after some time...
Should it have a bulging camera? Of course not.
Should it have a bulging camera? Of course not.
No, I don't think it should protrude, but I think Apple's marketing makes it look bigger. Look how tiny the camera bump on the iPhone is. When you place a much larger and heavier device down it won't wobble because of such a tiny bump at the top edge of a corner.
Think about this: Apple is full of brilliant and experienced designers. Do you think that in all of their testing and prototypes not one engineer sat down and tried drawing with this "Pro" tablet (which is marketed for drawing and writing) flat on it's back? If this was a major problem it would have been redesigned before announcement.
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I don't carry my phone on me all the time with my Apple Watch, but I'm usually on my iPad. If my pet or something funny happens I will use my iPad's camera. When I'm taking notes in class I take pictures of professor drawings or slides.
I don't actively seek out my iPad for pictures, but I do use it. I appreciate the improvements, but I would have preferred a worse camera and flat back (the opposite of how I fee about the iPhone.)
Think about this: Apple is full of brilliant and experienced designers. Do you think that in all of their testing and prototypes not one engineer sat down and tried drawing with this "Pro" tablet (which is marketed for drawing and writing) flat on it's back? If this was a major problem it would have been redesigned before announcement.
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I don't carry my phone on me all the time with my Apple Watch, but I'm usually on my iPad. If my pet or something funny happens I will use my iPad's camera. When I'm taking notes in class I take pictures of professor drawings or slides.
I don't actively seek out my iPad for pictures, but I do use it. I appreciate the improvements, but I would have preferred a worse camera and flat back (the opposite of how I fee about the iPhone.)
They should have just kept the 8mp camera to avoid the bulge and put in 4gb Ram instead.