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Not Really but the Kindle fire is cheap and it is an android tablet so that will be my min reason to get one

Also if i don't get a kindle fire ill either buy an iPhone 5, or build a custom pc

If that's your main reason, don't get it. Kindle Fire is not an Android device, period. It's a Kindle device tailored specifically for Amazon's cloud services. If you don't use any of the Amazon's services, you will be disappointed.

There is a chance that you can't run any Android apps you want on it. It's not running the Android OS completely, it's a heavily customized fork of an older version of Android OS that will not be compatible with any apps created specifically for the newer 3.x/4.x Android OS.
 
If that's your main reason, don't get it. Kindle Fire is not an Android device, period. It's a Kindle device tailored specifically for Amazon's cloud services. If you don't use any of the Amazon's services, you will be disappointed.

There is a chance that you can't run any Android apps you want on it. It's not running the Android OS completely, it's a heavily customized fork of an older version of Android OS that will not be compatible with any apps created specifically for the newer 3.x/4.x Android OS.

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you serious??????????????? proof please!
 
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you serious??????????????? proof please!

Which parts are you asking proof on? Many web sites have reported on this. You can start with Amazon's site here. You may notice that there is absolutely no mention of Android here. You can only get apps at the Amazon's App Store, which is not part of the Android's platform and you have to specifically develop apps for Fire.

You can also find out more about the limited functions here:
 
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I, also, am seriously considering adding a Kindle Fire to my tech gear. At present, I have the iPad 1 (great tablet). However, I have used the Samsung Galaxy Tab and the Nook Color. Compared to my iPad, both have a form factor that is better for reading, especially for night reading. In fact, I find the 7" size to be much more portable. Although, my iPad goes with me most of the time.

Within a month, maybe much sooner, the Kindle Fire will get rooted. Then, you will be able to use both Amazon's and Google's marketplace. Not only is the price point very favorable, but I use Amazon a lot.
 
I'm actually waiting to see how the Fire does, before I commit to a tablet. Likewise, I'm waiting to see what the iPad 3 brings to the table.
 
I just sold my $99 TouchPad for $180. It was neat, and worth the low price, but after a few weeks I just kept reaching back for my iPad 1. I have a pre-order in for the Fire now with the nice subsidy from the TP. I think I will like the 7" form factor and will use it more than I did the TP since it will have less overlap with the iPad.
 
The Kindle Fire looks awesome, when watching the announcement i did contemplate buying one (despite owing an iPad and Kindle already)

After the "oohhhh shiney!" factor wore off a little i realized that while may be great value for money, it wouldnt make much sense to spend that money on something that essentially duplicates the functionality i already have without bringing anything new to the table.
 
Hello Everyone

I recently bought an iPad 2 and i have $500 to burn, so should i buy a kindle fire even though i already have an iPad 2??? If you own an iPad and want a kindle fire why, and if you want a kindle fire why?????

If you have money like that to burn, you should consider making a contribution to the less fortunate.
 
From my Blog:
Kindle Fire

It's official. Amazon has a few new Kindles, and one is the color Android-based Kindle Fire. The press was stunned when the Fire's $199 price was announced. The hardware specs are competitive but missing a few standard components. Some estimate 5 million or so will be sold before the end of this year. The Fire isn't the first 7" tablet out there, and it isn't even the cheapest one. Walmart.com has a half dozen 7" tablets available for under $200. You can buy the Maylong 7" tablet for as little as $97.

Here are a few:
•Maylong M-250 7", $97
•E-Fun Nextbook 8.4", $168
•Kaser's Net'sGo 7", $138
•Boss Electronics 2182 7", $124
•Velocity Micro Cruz T301 7", $178
•Pandigital Planet 7", $178
•Naxa Core 7", $132,
•Coby Kryos 7", $148, Front camera 1.3mp

So what magic makes the press think Amazon's Fire will sell better than any of these? Sure, most of these have worse specs than the Fire. Yet many also have hardware features (Cameras, HDMI-out) the Fire doesn't include. All have WiFi. All are touchscreen Android tablets. All run apps including all of Amazon's apps. Lined up spec for spec the Fire doesn't glow for what it can do. It blushes for what it doesn't do.

So what is the secret? I'm blaming it on Respect. Amazon, like Apple, has built up a reputation for treating customers well. They have both simplified the process of buying media and products from them. We respect Apple and we respect Amazon. They are both American originals. We surrender our beliefs to Apple in exchange for designful and productive devices we didn't know we needed. The press and Amazon fans have done the same concerning the Fire. I've pre-ordered mine out of the same respect.

Let's do a reality check though. The Fire is a first generation device. Remember the first wedge Kindle? Original, but far from evolved. The second and later generations were better in every way. My experience repeatedly demonstrates that 1st generation devices are poor investments. This is more often true for ground-breakers, and Amazon is a ground-breaker. Late comers/Followers can learn from the mistakes made by others. I expect the second generation Fire to be thinner, faster, and have a few more features than this first gen Fire. It may also be less expensive. Previous Kindles have gotten cheaper each year since the first one came out at around $400.

So is the Kindle Fire a good investment? I'm going to rate it a tentative "yes". From what I can tell the hardware is similar to the Blackberry Playbook. Made by the same manufacturer I'm expecting the Fire to be similarly well-made. The dimensions are a little different, but the details are very similar. Each specification the Fire lists is equal to or better than the competition. A 1024 x 600 screen when many have 800 x 480 screens. Capacitive multi-touch when many have resistive single-touch input. A dual core processor when many have single core chips. The Fire will have a liquid user interface (UI) and shouldn't stutter or pixelate displaying movies or photos. The screen will react instantly to your touch, and using it should become a mere extension of your thoughts. I expect Amazon to do it right. The Fire should delight the user. Should it not you can certainly expect the 2nd generation to.

Yes, I believe the new Kindle Fire is worth $199. The Blackberry Playbook and HTC Flyer are more capable tablets, and at $299 they are also priced proportionally correct given their additional features. If you think you might want a Fire, don't wait. Reviews will be out before new orders are shipped and you can always cancel should you change your mind.

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Comments welcome.
 
I'd say to get the HTC Flyer, which I think is on sale now at Best Buy for $299.

Add on the optional active pen for another $80. Plus find a nice leather case off eBay that has a pen holder and folds into a landscape stand for watching videos.

At that point you have one of the most unique and powerful 7" tablets around. See a webpage you like? Tap with the pen to take a screenshot, circle and annotate what you're interested in, then click to file it to your EverNote account.

It has a very well done Sense UI carousel version on it, that knows how to go landscape. The apps like settings and mail and facebook and others also know to take advantage of the extra room in landscape mode. E.g. Email list on left, selected mail on right.

Netflix and video Skype work on it.

The weather widget is also extra cool. The browser has nice controls as well.

I paid $499 for mine when they came out, and it's still one of my favorite devices.
 
As others have said, if you have an IPAD, what missing service does the Kindle Fire fill? For me, I don't think there is one. I've always thought of the following analogy: Ipod Nano is Iphone/Ipod Touch as Kindle is to IPad. Namely a smaller, lighter, inexpensive product that does a few things very well. I have a nano and love it for the gym, beach or anywhere size/weight is a premium or I don't feel like taking a chance trashing a really expensive device like an Iphone. I think the e-ink Kindles fill a similar role for the Ipad. There are just times you don't want to carry a $500 device or when something super light is at a premium (again, I think of the gym or beach - the lack of glare helps as well). But for the Kindle fire? A little smaller and lighter but not enough to make a huge difference for me. Cheaper, but not so cheep that I'd just toss it in my gym bag without thinking about it. Since I can get all of Amazon's services on my IPAD, which I already own, I can't see paying another $200 for a Fire. If I was a bigger e-book reader, I could definitely see myself picking up one of the <$100 basic kindles.
 
I'd say to get the HTC Flyer, which I think is on sale now at Best Buy for $299.

It has a very well done Sense UI carousel version on it, that knows how to go landscape. The apps like settings and mail and facebook and others also know to take advantage of the extra room in landscape mode. E.g. Email list on left, selected mail on right.

I paid $499 for mine when they came out, and it's still one of my favorite devices.

Agreed. The Fire is interesting but lacks a lot and even rooted still no bluetooth, and no SD card for memory expansion.

HTC Flyer is a far better option and I am a big fan of the 7" tablet format...it is just easier to cart around and handle.
 
...I am a big fan of the 7" tablet format...it is just easier to cart around and handle.

Though I've never used a 7" tablet, I believe that one would complement my iPad perfectly. I have heard several people say what is quoted above and hope that it doesn't take Apple too long to reconsider their position. It's probably a very tough decision to make though.
 
Though I've never used a 7" tablet, I believe that one would complement my iPad perfectly. I have heard several people say what is quoted above and hope that it doesn't take Apple too long to reconsider their position. It's probably a very tough decision to make though.

To quote another poster in a different context, if Apple introduces a 7" iPad in the foreseeable future, I'll eat my iPad. Runs counter to Apple culture to be viewed as a "me too" manufacturer. Would inevitably appear to be a de-featured iPad with still another form factor challenge for developer UI's.

While the Fire can be seen as a "premium" Kindle, a 7" iPad would be an economy version of the iPad and the appropriate price point would be difficult to meet.
 
To quote another poster in a different context, if Apple introduces a 7" iPad in the foreseeable future, I'll eat my iPad. Runs counter to Apple culture to be viewed as a "me too" manufacturer. Would inevitably appear to be a de-featured iPad with still another form factor challenge for developer UI's.
Why is it assumed that a 7" is "copy" of anything? Tablets, Ultralight notebooks, MP3 players, large monitors etc all existed before Apple did one yet Apple is credited for pioneering those fields because they did it so much better.

So if Apple does a 7" is it a "me too" device or is it "the best 7in tablet ever"?
 
I have one on preorder but I honestly don't know what I will do with it since I have a iPad 2 and a HTC sensation. My phone can run android apps and has a 4.3 inch screen. The fire lacks bluetooth and a camera so Skype calls will be a no go. If Amazon doesn't leak any new features between now and November than I will probably cancel my preorder.
 
Which parts are you asking proof on? Many web sites have reported on this. You can start with Amazon's site here. You may notice that there is absolutely no mention of Android here. You can only get apps at the Amazon's App Store, which is not part of the Android's platform and you have to specifically develop apps for Fire.

You can also find out more about the limited functions here:

well thanks for the heads up. LOL....TIME TO cancel my pre orde
 
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Since you already have an iPad tablet, I would more inclined to get an eInk Kindle. It's very light and it gives you a unique ability to read an ebook outside in the sun.

Otherwise, I would build the PC. My best recent project has been building a cheap but powerful PC for ripping and transcoding videos. For about $300 I was able to build a PC which does a great job as a compute server. There's no way Apple will build something to fill this need, and it was also tough to find an off the shelf desktop PC which gave me a quad-core CPU without loading it up with fancy graphics and other stuff I didn't need.
 
I'd say to get the HTC Flyer, which I think is on sale now at Best Buy for $299.

Add on the optional active pen for another $80. Plus find a nice leather case off eBay that has a pen holder and folds into a landscape stand for watching videos.

At that point you have one of the most unique and powerful 7" tablets around. See a webpage you like? Tap with the pen to take a screenshot, circle and annotate what you're interested in, then click to file it to your EverNote account.

It has a very well done Sense UI carousel version on it, that knows how to go landscape. The apps like settings and mail and facebook and others also know to take advantage of the extra room in landscape mode. E.g. Email list on left, selected mail on right.

Netflix and video Skype work on it.

The weather widget is also extra cool. The browser has nice controls as well.

I paid $499 for mine when they came out, and it's still one of my favorite devices.

This sounds like a good idea. For awhile, I have been looking at this device. Hopefully, on ebay, with the pen included, they will sell for @ $300. We'll see..
 
Sounds like you have already made up your mind to me. I just think you are oing to be disappointed and frustrated after the first 2 weeks. If you want a cheap 7" Android based tablet, look at the Iconia.
yeah but your battery life is 3.5 hours and the charger is the size of brick, good luck with portability.
 
My .02cents - spend the money on something such as media content for your iPad. Use it for bills. Donate it to a worthwhile cause. I thought about the Kindle Fire but couldn't justify it for my needs - already have an iPhone 4, iPad so where would it fit? Sit on the fence for now and wait it out. We don't always need the latest and greatest new gadget. :)
 
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