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Most of spend a lot of time figuring out which setup will work best for us, be most cost effective and last the longest. You seem to just like having the newest thing with a weird (ignorant) way to justify it.

You are bragging.. plain and simple. SSD and RAM upgrades are going to be a lot more noticeable upgrades than the processor bump. And if you don't want to do it yourself I'm sure Apple would love to do it for you.

I'm not bragging, not at all, nothing special about buying a laptop let's be honest. Just think you lot are just on one cos I bought a new laptop :p

As I said before, people buy new iPhones because they like having the latest handset, I don't see how this is any different.
 
As I said before, people buy new iPhones because they like having the latest handset, I don't see how this is any different.

This is not analogous. The new Phone will have 4G, which is something significant to upgrade to if your contract is up.. A lot of people still have their iPhone 4 because the two year upgrade period wasn't up when the 4S came out. Plus, you don't have a contract with your computer (unless you want to argue Apple care)

And I'm not on about anything. I'm reading your ramblings in retina.
 
This is not analogous. If it has 4G capabilities then yes. A lot of people still have their iPhone 4 because the two year upgrade period wasn't up when the 4S came out. Plus, you don't have a contract with your computer (unless you want to argue Apple care)

I think there are more people than you think who buy the latest products to keep with the market, me being one of them, I will be there to buy the iPhone 5 when it comes out, and when the MBP gets another refresh I will do the same then, have done since I started using macs about 4 years ago.
 
I think there are more people than you think who buy the latest products to keep with the market, me being one of them, I will be there to buy the iPhone 5 when it comes out, and when the MBP gets another refresh I will do the same then, have done since I started using macs about 4 years ago.

That's great man, but obviously your mindset doesn't go along with a decent showing of this online community, so maybe you should just go update your facebook status and call it a day.

EDIT: or is your current MBP too old for that?
 
I just upgraded from my 2003 PowerBook G4 and was stressing out over the fact it still ran decently. This makes me feel a bit better.

Thanks guy. :cool:
 
That's great man, but obviously your mindset doesn't go along with a decent showing of this online community, so maybe you should just go update your facebook status and call it a day.

EDIT: or is your current MBP too old for that?

This online community gives mac users a bad name and it does not surprise me some of them get stick, all about the user experience and some of the members on here are real idiots.
 
The only real reason you should have to upgrade to a newer model is for either:

a) Gaming
b) A catastrophic problem occurs once or multiple times.

Like me, I opted for an upgrade because my laptop died SIX times over a year. The answer I was given? Oh, it's a software problem or you failed to install your OS properly because it appears to have been modified, which is ridiculous because I bought the unit on Amazon. If they could not fix that issue or at least give me a more definitive answer than that, we (my family and I) decided that it was better to get rid of the unit for a cheaper price and get a new.

You may not think you're bragging about your new laptop, but it's coming off as arrogance and basically you're just flaunting that you have money.
 
The only real reason you should have to upgrade to a newer model is for either:

a) Gaming
b) A catastrophic problem occurs once or multiple times.

Like me, I opted for an upgrade because my laptop died SIX times over a year. The answer I was given? Oh, it's a software problem or you failed to install your OS properly because it appears to have been modified, which is ridiculous because I bought the unit on Amazon. If they could not fix that issue or at least give me a more definitive answer than that, we (my family and I) decided that it was better to get rid of the unit for a cheaper price and get a new.

You may not think you're bragging about your new laptop, but it's coming off as arrogance and basically you're just flaunting that you have money.

I would love to use it for gaming, but if I said I bought it for that you lot would be on at me saying I should have gone for the 15" model which has the dedicated chip on it, can't win.
 
Haha I was in your exact same boat. Although, the only difference was that my problem was completely different. I understand where you are coming from, but if you're saddened by something like a dent or a nick then I can't really help you out on that part. Those things happen, and you're going to have to just deal with it, sadly.

Having shiny hardware is a wonderful thing! But in the short and long term, you're gonna be hit hard, and it's not going to be a good thing. :p I actually just got a 2012 MBP after selling my (basically brand new internal parts) 2011 MBP to a friend locally. Was it worth it? Yes and no. Gaming wise, it becomes much more doable, and it fits my portability as I have a bad back where the 15 inch would basically put more strain. So in a sense, I gained some and I lost some.
 
Haha I was in your exact same boat. Although, the only difference was that my problem was completely different. I understand where you are coming from, but if you're saddened by something like a dent or a nick then I can't really help you out on that part. Those things happen, and you're going to have to just deal with it, sadly.

Having shiny hardware is a wonderful thing! But in the short and long term, you're gonna be hit hard, and it's not going to be a good thing. :p I actually just got a 2012 MBP after selling my (basically brand new internal parts) 2011 MBP to a friend locally. Was it worth it? Yes and no. Gaming wise, it becomes much more doable, and it fits my portability as I have a bad back where the 15 inch would basically put more strain. So in a sense, I gained some and I lost some.

I wanted a quicker machine, so I bought a MBA 11, but I had to make too many compromises due to the restriction of 256GB flash, I know I could have put more memory in but the cost was stupid for such a small machine, then the thing made my carpal tunnel really bad in the position I use it, so I sent it back, Apple were really helpful.

But I decided I wanted a new machine anyway due to the dent, and the upgrades I thought were worthwhile, and I think they will be when I receive the new machine.

It's not bragging at all, at the end of the day it is nothing to brag about, just a laptop, but I was happy and only used the 'shiny keys' as a joke.
 
I wanted a quicker machine, so I bought a MBA 11, but I had to make too many compromises due to the restriction of 256GB flash, I know I could have put more memory in but the cost was stupid for such a small machine, then the thing made my carpal tunnel really bad in the position I use it, so I sent it back, Apple were really helpful.

But I decided I wanted a new machine anyway due to the dent, and the upgrades I thought were worthwhile, and I think they will be when I receive the new machine.

It's not bragging at all, at the end of the day it is nothing to brag about, just a laptop, but I was happy and only used the 'shiny keys' as a joke.

It's the internet lol, things can be taken quite differently. What may sound like a light-hearted joke might really piss someone else off because they might be lacking financially and they desire fancy tech. I had this issue happen on another forum, where my post was basically immediately moderated because they were worried about the ramifications of my post.

The upgrades, I will tell you right now, are worthwhile, but as far as RAM and hard drives can go, you can basically spend about twenty minutes yourself as a DIY project, and learn how to set these things up. It's super easy peasy. for the $500 that apple charges on installing a 256 GB SSD, you can basically take that and get a 512 GB SSD and install it yourself in a matter of minutes. That 100 that apple charges for 8GB of RAM to do can purchase a 16GB ram set. You get the drift. :p My laptop, which on the apple store values at like $2000, saved $500 because I learned to DIY my stuff.

IF you want to save money, and get the biggest bang in terms of performance, a bit of DIY will go a long long long way. ;) Keep that in mind.
 
It's the internet lol, things can be taken quite differently. What may sound like a light-hearted joke might really piss someone else off because they might be lacking financially and they desire fancy tech. I had this issue happen on another forum, where my post was basically immediately moderated because they were worried about the ramifications of my post.

The upgrades, I will tell you right now, are worthwhile, but as far as RAM and hard drives can go, you can basically spend about twenty minutes yourself as a DIY project, and learn how to set these things up. It's super easy peasy. for the $500 that apple charges on installing a 256 GB SSD, you can basically take that and get a 512 GB SSD and install it yourself in a matter of minutes. That 100 that apple charges for 8GB of RAM to do can purchase a 16GB ram set. You get the drift. :p My laptop, which on the apple store values at like $2000, saved $500 because I learned to DIY my stuff.

IF you want to save money, and get the biggest bang in terms of performance, a bit of DIY will go a long long long way. ;) Keep that in mind.

Thanks, and I absolutely take what you have said on board. I have upgraded the Ram in my machine from 4GB to 8GB already, but what worries me especially with Macs is that they don't like aftermarket, when reading reviews on Amazon with SSD drives and Ram, there are people who say firmware causes issues and some Apple stores say that certain SSD drives are not working as they should, this in my eyes introduces more stress into the situation, this actual 2011 MBP I have here has never crashed since I have owned it, but since I installed the RAM upgrade, it has properly crashed 3 times, I don't think this is a coincidence, I believe this is the RAM I put in, and it wasn't that cheap! - So I like to keep it as standard as possible.
 
Thanks, and I absolutely take what you have said on board. I have upgraded the Ram in my machine from 4GB to 8GB already, but what worries me especially with Macs is that they don't like aftermarket, when reading reviews on Amazon with SSD drives and Ram, there are people who say firmware causes issues and some Apple stores say that certain SSD drives are not working as they should, this in my eyes introduces more stress into the situation, this actual 2011 MBP I have here has never crashed since I have owned it, but since I installed the RAM upgrade, it has properly crashed 3 times, I don't think this is a coincidence, I believe this is the RAM I put in, and it wasn't that cheap! - So I like to keep it as standard as possible.

Likewise buddy, likewise. It could be a number of things, and sometimes the help apple gives you depends person by person. I can say RIGHT NOW, with my 2012 MBP that I have an SSD, factory installed ML, 8GB RAM, no problems whatsoever. Stick to crucial for SSDs and RAM, or buy from the Samsung P830 series, and you're going to have a powerhouse for a unit that can exceed every one of your needs (save for gaming without a discrete card :p). Tech goes cheaper and cheaper by the day. Look at SD cards, what used to be like 80$ for a 16 GB is now less than $20.

If you're afraid of warranty busting, as far as I am concerned they tell you how to do it in the manual, so it technically shouldn't be an issue unless you seriously damage something like the ribbon cable on the HDD. Again, depends on the apple guy you get!
 
Likewise buddy, likewise. It could be a number of things, and sometimes the help apple gives you depends person by person. I can say RIGHT NOW, with my 2012 MBP that I have an SSD, factory installed ML, 8GB RAM, no problems whatsoever. Stick to crucial for SSDs and RAM, or buy from the Samsung P830 series, and you're going to have a powerhouse for a unit that can exceed every one of your needs (save for gaming without a discrete card :p). Tech goes cheaper and cheaper by the day. Look at SD cards, what used to be like 80$ for a 16 GB is now less than $20.

If you're afraid of warranty busting, as far as I am concerned they tell you how to do it in the manual, so it technically shouldn't be an issue unless you seriously damage something like the ribbon cable on the HDD. Again, depends on the apple guy you get!

Looks like I will be going for the 830 series Samsung, but only when all the issues are ironed out.
 
Looks like I will be going for the 830 series Samsung, but only when all the issues are ironed out.

Definitely should as of yesterday it was 198 for 256 GB, which is an awesome deal. Speed wise and reliability wise it's the Samsung. For budget concerns, go for the Crucial. About that RAM, crashing 3 times points to faulty RAM. Run Memtest for Mac and see if that narrows it.
 
Definitely should as of yesterday it was 198 for 256 GB, which is an awesome deal. Speed wise and reliability wise it's the Samsung. For budget concerns, go for the Crucial. About that RAM, crashing 3 times points to faulty RAM. Run Memtest for Mac and see if that narrows it.

Will do now!
 
Crucial from Amazon, £16 odd for 4GB. Bought 2 of them and used the ram from my MBP to upgrade the iMac.

Lucky that you bought Amazon, USUALLY (in the United States) their customer service is top notch, as I have had RAM sticks go bad after like 3 months and I was able to get a full refund. Usually with RAM, I prefer to buy what the computer wants. For instance, if the unit wants a 204 pin 1600 MHz SODIMM RAM set, I buy that RAM set, and leave the old one. using the old ones on another machine might not work compatibility wise. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be back in a bit, have to take care of errands. :p
 
Lucky that you bought Amazon, USUALLY (in the United States) their customer service is top notch, as I have had RAM sticks go bad after like 3 months and I was able to get a full refund. Usually with RAM, I prefer to buy what the computer wants. For instance, if the unit wants a 204 pin 1600 MHz SODIMM RAM set, I buy that RAM set, and leave the old one. using the old ones on another machine might not work compatibility wise. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'll be back in a bit, have to take care of errands. :p

Yer I bought the exact match to the MBP, I am testing it now thanks for your advice.
 
I know how to change a HDD in a MBP, have done it before, but I am more talking about the messing about with the system, and reports of crashes I have heard, and when did I say it was a facebook machine?

It is also used for work which includes Photoshop, which needs a performance machine.

how is a 15inch macbook incapable of runnign photoshop?

crashes? the macbook witht he installed SSD has never crashed. the stock HD crashed 2 times.
 
If you're buying RAM, you don't have to stick to Crucial as they also raise their prices due to the Macbook "premium". If you find RAM with the same specs (voltage, speed, timing, latency) as Crucial or OWC RAM, you can easily go for it and buy them. I bought a set of 2x8GB Mushkin RAM on Newegg for my 2012 MBP for about $90, and it's been working without a hitch since day one. OWC and Crucial charge around $140 for a 16GB set.
 
how is a 15inch macbook incapable of runnign photoshop?

crashes? the macbook witht he installed SSD has never crashed. the stock HD crashed 2 times.

Who said a MBP 15 was incapable of running Photoshop? Not me?

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If you're buying RAM, you don't have to stick to Crucial as they also raise their prices due to the Macbook "premium". If you find RAM with the same specs (voltage, speed, timing, latency) as Crucial or OWC RAM, you can easily go for it and buy them. I bought a set of 2x8GB Mushkin RAM on Newegg for my 2012 MBP for about $90, and it's been working without a hitch since day one. OWC and Crucial charge around $140 for a 16GB set.

I managed to get hold of Crucial memory for this MBP, 8GB for £33 which is about $55? No issue in cost there.
 
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