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Sideloading iOS Apps No Longer Possible on M1 Macs

seek3r said:
Why is that the right of the developer? Would you support an author deciding where you can read a book?
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I used to regularly read books that I wasn't allowed to remove from the (special section of) the library.

The audacity of them thinking that we actually would have to stick to whatever terms we agree to when we get access to things.

Like… just imaging if you paid to get online access to tv series and movies, and only got access to the shows available in a specific region… like… can you imagine the outrage if that happened… Or if you were to BUY DVDs and game cartridges only for them to region coded… can you imagine the outrage…
 
seek3r said:
Why is that the right of the developer? Would you support an author deciding where you can read a book?
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Paper books don't require special hardware.

Digital books also don't require special hardware provided they are in a widely used standard format like PDF, EPUB, etc.
 
4743913 said:
thats awesome. Im going to start putting those EPUBS on my Kindle today.
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That would require a device from a manufacturer willing to support that format. I doubt Amazon kindles support anything outside of their store anymore plus that document service they used to have where you had to email files to a kindle.
 
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svanstrom said:
DRM literally stands for digital rights management, of which protecting against unauthorised copying is just one thing; so why are you talking about "different to DRM systems" as if a "DRM system" is anything special beyond what it literally means in plain English?
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Because to me a drm system is copyright protection on a next level so to speak, especially compared to the old days of brute hardware blockers that prevented you from making a legal copy. Many drm systems allow exactly that, the legal distribution/authentication of a purchased digital item.
 
ericwn said:
Because to me a drm system is copyright protection on a next level so to speak, especially compared to the old days of brute hardware blockers that prevented you from making a legal copy. Many drm systems allow exactly that, the legal distribution/authentication of a purchased digital item.
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But when you talk to other people you have to use what words actually mean, not what they mean to you.
 
svanstrom said:
But when you talk to other people you have to use what words actually mean, not what they mean to you.
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Oh what a great debate you are demonstrating. You have at it alone for now and continue believing your 1980 disk protection is a drm. I’ll circle back to the topic of the discussion. Good day.
 
ericwn said:
Oh what a great debate you are demonstrating. You have at it alone for now and continue believing your 1980 disk protection is a drm. I’ll circle back to the topic of the discussion. Good day.
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I guess I skipped the "being ignored means you're right"-portion of my studies in rhetorics. 😂

Good day to you too, dear sir/madam/gentleperson.
 
svanstrom said:
I guess I skipped the "being ignored means you're right"-portion of my studies in rhetorics.

Good day to you too, dear sir/madam/gentleperson.
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I haven’t heard you make a point of relevance so by all means have a good day.

It’s probably not the only thing you missed but you can tell us that in a different day.
 
** anyway , in testing app in swift ui compile to ios and macos app a bit diff output. Just hope people here understand there is no plug and play it will work on the spot.

Hope other vendor will test it out if it work .
 
TheWatchfulOne said:
Paper books don't require special hardware.

Digital books also don't require special hardware provided they are in a widely used standard format like PDF, EPUB, etc.
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Sure they do, you just don't think about it because most people have the hardware, but folks who are blind or have significantly impaired vision don't. There has been a lot of innovative work on how to help those who can't read text hear it, from a Kindle reading it to you to apps that use a camera and OCR to read your dead tree book aloud, etc. There's also lots of ongoing work on on the fly braille creation. All of that is using the book in a unsupported hardware shift.
 
ericwn said:
That would require a device from a manufacturer willing to support that format. I doubt Amazon kindles support anything outside of their store anymore plus that document service they used to have where you had to email files to a kindle.
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They support MOBI (as well as plaintext), and you can easily convert from epub to MOBI using library management software like Calibre or a standalone convertor. You can also add MOBI files directly to the kindle by plugging it into your computer (it shows up like an external HD) and dropping them into the directory without using any management software at all. Kindles are actually very easy to use without ever using Amazon's store, you even update offline the same way you can add books.
 
seek3r said:
They support MOBI (as well as plaintext), and you can easily convert from epub to MOBI using library management software like Calibre or a standalone convertor. You can also add MOBI files directly to the kindle by plugging it into your computer (it shows up like an external HD) and dropping them into the directory without using any management software at all. Kindles are actually very easy to use without ever using Amazon's store, you even update offline the same way you can add books.
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Ah nice touch, thanks for that additional information- good to know. Not that different from my other ereader then.
 
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TheWatchfulOne said:
Who is stopping your computer from getting apps from "unofficial" sources? Nobody as far as I can tell. You can get apps from the App Store, or you can get them from the developer's website if that's an option. But that's not what this topic is about.

This is about developers disallowing their apps to run on unsupported hardware.
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No it's not? It's about not being allowed to install iOS app files. Developers have absolutely nothing to do with this decision. If they don't want their app distributed then don't leak the installer? Same with a .app file?
 
bwillwall said:
No it's not? It's about not being allowed to install iOS app files. Developers have absolutely nothing to do with this decision. If they don't want their app distributed then don't leak the installer? Same with a .app file?
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The "leak" is that per Apple design the app can be extracted from an iOS device; so the developers are "leaking" it simply by putting it in the AppStore, as per design.

And yes, developers do have a lot of to do with the decision, because they decide if it doesn't run. :)
 
svanstrom said:
The "leak" is that per Apple design the app can be extracted from an iOS device; so the developers are "leaking" it simply by putting it in the AppStore, as per design.

And yes, developers do have a lot of to do with the decision, because they decide if it doesn't run. :)
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The App Store is run by Apple. These decisions were all made by Apple. If they were allowing an app file to be extracted and used without any sort of privacy features that's on them. They should allow me to install from an iOS app file that isn't secured though. If I understand correctly the only way to install an iOS app is through the app store now on macs? If I'm correct they're taking a step to locking down the Mac in the same way iOS devices are.
 
ericwn said:
That would require a device from a manufacturer willing to support that format. I doubt Amazon kindles support anything outside of their store anymore plus that document service they used to have where you had to email files to a kindle.
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lol. you seem to be a low information individual..
 
nexusrule said:
So everyone (every hater) that is a fierce defender of developers when it comes to App Store and subscriptions, the moment they can’t use their pirated apps anymore they curiously forget their love of devs and start taking on Apple because it is enforcing developers wishes and rights. Sad but hilarious.
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it’s hilarious you think i changed my stance on the app store.

it sounds like you pick whoever you think is a “hater”, rewrite history, and spread lies about it.
 
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