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If all one does is open a handful of tabs in Safari and run iTunes, he may be able to get away with 4GB of RAM. But if one starts running even a moderately demand apps such as iPhoto and iWork simultaneously, 4GB would quickly trigger page outs.

Even with memory compression, Mavericks still can't do wonders with 4GB RAM. And once OS X starts to page out, the only way to recover is reboot.

With MBA not being user upgradable, it would be most unwise to not spend $100 more for 8GB RAM.

Although I agree that the $100 upgrade to 8GB is a no brainer, there are two issues. The first is availability. I do not think any Apple Stores carry 8GB MBA systems as standard stock. The second is price. If someone is price conscious or on a budget, that extra $100 may put them out of the range s a system.

Even looking at the refurbished prices, there may he hesitation on the term "refurb" and it being buggy. I personally, would entertain a refurb model if there was one that met my requirements, but someone like my wife would never go that route.

Speaking of my wife... My wife is only running a 13" MBA with 4GB of RAM (Mid 2012 - 1.3/4/256). I would not say that she is a power user in the sense where she is a programmer, phot editor, or video editor but she uses Word, Excel, Preview, and Safari all at the same time.

You may say, "so what." The thing is that she usually has about 20 word documents, 6-10 excel spreadsheets, a handful of PDFs, and probably 15 safari tabs open at any given time. She sometimes throws Quicktime in there when she is reviewing a video recorded session of one of her clients (she is a Speech Therapist).

Knock on wood, but she has had no major issue with the laptop. I would say, if anything, Word freezes up on her and we need to do a 'Force Quit' on it. But it has been so infrequently, that she has not complained. Granted, I brought her over from a Windows environment where she ran a beefier setup and constantly had system crashes utilizing a similar work process scenario.

I think the Mac environment on a 4GB system, currently, runs great for probably 90% of the general public who would be getting into a Mac system.

Oh, and she easily gets a full day to day and a half of battery life. ;)
 
Even looking at the refurbished prices, there may he hesitation on the term "refurb" and it being buggy. I personally, would entertain a refurb model if there was one that met my requirements, but someone like my wife would never go that route.

All 2013 models that Apple hasn't sold have magically turned into "refurbished" models. Some guys at Apple spent hours and hours moving them from original packaging into the brown packages used for refurbished Macs.
 
Honestly I debated whether to fork a $100 more for 8GB but I thought to myself I'm using this more for light computing and non intensive tasks, originally entertained the idea of IPad Air with LTE but the deals Air had for a little bit more money was no brainer. I still have my 8GB but noisy 5 yrs old HP DV4 hooked up to a Asus Monitor for intensive tasks.
 
Why people spend north of $1000 for a laptop is beyond me. Especially when they just do everything in a browser 99% of the time.
 
I agree, I also don't see anything wrong with your comment. I think you are just printing out some of the obvious issues. The Macbook Air is great, but what people might want to keep in mind, is that unless you have money to throw around (e.g., buy a new one in 1-2 years because the computer feel sluggish), you should be careful about the initial investment. Giving that you can't update the MBA at all (unlike the Macbook Pro), you are basically stuck with what you buy. So that's very important to keep in mind, especially what you need in your machine to start with.

I think the pricing is great, but I'd recommend getting the 8GB RAM. I would also recommend getting the one with 250+GB, but if money is tight get the 128GB ones, you can always use microSD in the future, or make good use of external storage, or cloud.

Unlike the MBP?

The classic MBP is incredibly out of date. Not much point in buying it.

And you can't update the current Macbook Pro (retina).
 
Unlike the MBP?

The classic MBP is incredibly out of date. Not much point in buying it.

And you can't update the current Macbook Pro (retina).

Well, I'm not speaking to the release time frame of the macbook pro, but more so the ability to upgrade. If apple would to release a update macbook pro, I would go for it. Just because I know I can get it at low price, and do a decent amount of upgrade myself later.
 
Well, I'm not speaking to the release time frame of the macbook pro, but more so the ability to upgrade. If apple would to release a update macbook pro, I would go for it. Just because I know I can get it at low price, and do a decent amount of upgrade myself later.

They won't -- that's my point. MBP now refers primarily to the rMBP, as shown by Apple's neglect of the "classic" MBP.
 
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