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Silliest Reasons You've Heard for Not Switching

macrem said:
OS X vs. Vista comparison in Popular Mechanics.... Here is the link: ...
Aside from the Gateway costing $300 more than the Mac and having similiar hardware in the first comparison, but the Gateway has 3x more memory than the Mac, the latter of which has a little higher clock speed, as you can see Leopard trounces on Vista!
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Such Mac vs PC cost comparisons often miss the point for non-switchers. Namely, I can buy a basic PC for under $500. Feature to feature pricing equivalence is meaningless when your budget is under a thousand bucks and Apple cheapest system is $1200.

I spent $2500 on my MBP and think it was worth every dollar; it's hard to recommend such a system to friends with less interest and budget for computers as me.
 
chill. said:
"Macs are too... fluffy!"
silly reason i don't even understand it
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Well, in that case I have a win for the silliest reason, as per the title of this thread. However, these were the exact words of my co-worker, who is an avid Windows user, about Macs. She also thinks that Macs are too cute to be trusted to commit to them. Whatever. These arguments are too silly to be argued with logically. I guess being (or seeming to be) too cute might in fact put some people off :eek:.
 
DaveF said:
Such Mac vs PC cost comparisons often miss the point for non-switchers. Namely, I can buy a basic PC for under $500. Feature to feature pricing equivalence is meaningless when your budget is under a thousand bucks and Apple cheapest system is $1200.

I spent $2500 on my MBP and think it was worth every dollar; it's hard to recommend such a system to friends with less interest and budget for computers as me.
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You heard about the *new* Mac Mini? It's only 600 dollars!

Anyway I hated Windows and its butt-ugly GUI. Yes, even Vista is ugly. It's flashy, but if you really look at it, it's ugly as sin. I hated how there were so many lights and switches and uneven edges on the PC laptops. I hated the EXTREMELY glossy keyboards. I swear, they are like mirrors. and some laptops (PCs) have this big fat bulge that houses the web camera. and the STICKERS. let's not forget about those. Macs dont have stickers. PCs have stickers, junkware, trialware, crapware, the list goes on and on. By the time you actually stripped the OS (Vista) to it's original nonjunkwared core, you'd probably be a few years older...
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
[snip]...junkware, trialware, crapware, the list goes on and on. By the time you actually stripped the OS (Vista) to it's original nonjunkwared core, you'd probably be a few years older...
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I've been able to order a business unit from Dell in the past without all the crap added. :eek:
But it's definitely a PITA to remove it yourself. ;)
 
chill. said:
ok, besides the OP, 80% of the reasons listed are perfectly valid and good reasons for not switching
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Meh, if your 80% includes browser maximizing then get real, we are talking about overall computing which the Mac does well. Just because you can't click a damn button and make the browser window fill all corners of your screen is not a valid reason for not switching.
That would mean, all the ridiculous maintenance required to keep Windows from spyware and viruses and endless driver downloads and registry cleanups is worth dealing with just so you can click Internet Explorer's maximize button to make it fill the screen. Yeah, that's lame if someone would rather do that then switch to the Mac OS because of a lack of full screen browser maximizing.
 
lets see if i can remember the ones ive heard personally from friends...

1-more expensive

2-can't upgrade (yes i know the pro can, but even i cant drop a minimum of $3k on a comp so mentioning the pro when they can build one for around 1,000 is pointless)

also saw someone make a point about imacs. "why buy an all in one system, where if one part fails you have to get a whoile new one; such as your proccessor goes out and now you have to buy whole new one even if your screen is perfect... seemed valid at first glance... then i thought, wait... don't ALL laptops fall into that category.. thats something ALL laptop computer manufacturers face... want to bet that person has a laptop or wants one??

3-not enough games- i used to be into gaming and building my own system to play, but honestly... $1,000+ to build a competer just to play games is well... not a real good investment for the future (and a HUGE waste of productive time and money if its subscription based)... might as well buy a PS3, 360 AND a wii for that amount...

4-PC has more software and programs. "we can download and crack 1000's of software and programs to use.." but dont you only need one to work very well? how many of those really do work all that great? why would you need more? how many have viruses??

then i guess there's the generic argument about windoze being great and apple not; even though none of these people have ever even used one, much less seen one in person... unless they are thinking the 80's versions...
 
Heard from my blatantly anti-Mac professor: "It's a toy!"

Apparently he is less concerned about students gaming on Windows XP! :p
 
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You get the point...
 
A couple of times a week, I walk into a store where they have Vista machines running. The screensaver is soap bubbles drifting around the screen. Multicolor soap bubbles. So here goes the lame excuse...

No soap bubbles...

:D
 
SnowLeopard2008 said:
You heard about the *new* Mac Mini? It's only 600 dollars!
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"new"? The mac mini is 18 months out of date ; it didn't seem worth mentioning even for cheap PCs. Here's a better comparison, a $580 complete system. Less than a mini, and is a complete system with better specs. The same direct comparison holds for laptops: you can buy laptops with apparently better specs for less than the cheapest MacBook.

Apple does great in the ~$1000+ "premium" class. But for the many people for whom budget is the single most important factor, showing that a $1500 Mac compares well to a $1500 PC is irrelevant: they're not spending more than $1000 for a system and Mac doesn't offer a system to them.
 
chill. said:
@macrem

your link leads to a dead page, but i don't see how you can argue that the hardware in macs is marked up like 20-80% more than comparable pc hardware

i really can't give your argument any credibility. your argument would only work if people were 100% efficient in their time management and also did nothing but sit and stare at the screen while the computers booted up

in reality, people will get a coffee, go to the water cooler, or chat while their computers are starting up.

you do know that having extra ram in the HP also increases the boot time right?

by your argument, maybe we should all be using linux splash os which has a 5 second bootup time
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Hmm, the article itself is too old apparently to still be on popular mechanics website but its referred to on many other websites if you google part of the quote I posted.

It sounds like you're saying companies should never upgrade computers unless they break down, as performance does not matter. I agree that in reality people cannot be 100% efficient, they burnout before reaching that point. However, work can go much more smoothly, reducing frustration as well, with better equipment. I stopped using Outlook at work as it was literally taking ~30 minutes sometimes from boot up until I could start sending email. I'm not saying its wrong to chat in front of the coffee machine, but keeping 2nd rate equipment to justify one's prolonged presence there would not be a best practice either :D

by your argument, maybe we should all be using linux splash os which has a 5 second bootup time
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Yes! That's what I do, but I am using a heavier distro with apps I need and don't quite get 5 seconds on Linux. I have not counted the seconds but my Mac boots at about the same speed, meanwhile OS X is user friendly. I think we should sell Windows to our adversaries and secretly use a combination of OS X and Linux.
 
chill. said:
but a lot of the time negative space is very pleasing to the eye. would you want all of your icons/menus/dock clumped together and located in the top left corner of your screen because you aren't using the rest of the space? i know i like fullscreening things because it helps me to focus on one task at a time and i find other windows in the background distracting

i think it all comes down to a person's personal preference, and you can't criticize a purely subjective stance
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+1
 
I can't believe someone actually tried to justify the "macs are for kids" excuse.
There are TWO, count 'em folks, two real reasons to not switch.
1) PC Gamers can't get the games they want, and if they do, it's NEVER written from the OS up, it's ported, making it slower and less efficient, leading gamers to say "Macs suck", even though it's simply poor planning on the part of the game developer
2)Macs cost big bucks. However, I'm running Leopard on an iBook from early 2005 folks. It runs as good as the day I bought it for $1200, in that same time frame, I have bought two PC Desktops, Hewlett Packard and Dell, both of which died out, although the HP still runs, albeit insanely slow and infected with trojans.

Nothing else to it.
 
Probably the two excuses I've heard the most are...

"Too expensive", and "No games".

1. "Too expensive" - You just bought a new $2,000 iMac. Five years later you want to sell it. Chances are you'll get at least $1k for that machine.

Now, let's say you just built a $2,000 dream machine. Huge monitor, the best CPU, tons of RAM, the best video card, etc... In five years I'd be surprised if that machine sold for even $800. Plus put in all the money you'll spend on fixing/repairing hardware, and you'll see it would've been cheaper to buy a Mac in the first place.


2. "No games" - Two words: Boot Camp. You want to play your silly little Battlefield 2? Go grab a copy of Winblows and play your $%%#! games! People act like Macs won't run anything Windows-related when, in fact, Macs run Windows like any PC does! Not only that, but Popular Mechanics found that their Mac ran Winblows "hasta-la" Vista better than the PC did, and the PC had 3x more RAM!

So all you little PC-OWNZPWNZ0RRS11!1 can put a sock in it already.
 
I like hourglasses.

[sarcasm]
When a computer goes too fast it confuses and scares me. I need plenty of time to think about what I'm going to type next. It gives me plenty of time to hitch the team of horses up to the buggy for that trip to market. I keep my buggy whips right there next to my microsoft keyboards and mice.
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guitarman and pwn247, I get the same.
Both are justifiable, and I do agree.

1. Games. I hope this isn't a completely wrong comment but I think the minority of mac users actually want to play games (please yell at me if I'm wrong)

2. Cost. A completely valid point here. however I'm sure everyone agrees here that you get what you pay for.
 
pwn247 said:
Probably the two excuses I've heard the most are...

"Too expensive", and "No games".

1. "Too expensive" - You just bought a new $2,000 iMac. Five years later you want to sell it. Chances are you'll get at least $1k for that machine.

Now, let's say you just built a $2,000 dream machine. Huge monitor, the best CPU, tons of RAM, the best video card, etc... In five years I'd be surprised if that machine sold for even $800. Plus put in all the money you'll spend on fixing/repairing hardware, and you'll see it would've been cheaper to buy a Mac in the first place.
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This really is an over-looked factor. Macs retain a staggering amount of their value after 2yrs compared to dell/hp/etc, if you're someone who generally upgrades every 2-3yrs anyways, you're throwing away a lot of money *not* buying Macs. Because their "real" cost is actually quite low, albeit with a high upfront cost.
 
Excuses I have heard before include

1. Their for stuck up, self absorbed people.
2. you cant do anything on them, other than that iLife crap.
3. You cant do cool things on them like make a program or something.
 
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