Have you tried using a TMobile iPhone 7 on Verizon's LTE network?
I asked about this previously and was told that it doesn't work at all.
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Have you tried using a TMobile iPhone 7 on Verizon's LTE network?
I asked about this previously and was told that it doesn't work at all.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-7-7-plus-thread.1998028/page-3#post-23616765
My gold IP7+ 128GB Verizon is expected to take eight Weeks. I was told four when I ordered. Now it is eight. It better be perfect.
Meh
Singapore gets the models with very ugly regulatory labels though.
I'll take unlocked any day.
I have not. I don't have any relatives on Verizon either, I switched them all to T-Mobile. I suppose I could go to the Verizon store and ask them to let me put a SIM card in my iPhone, but the people at my local store SUCK.
It should theoretically work. LTE isn't CDMA nor GSM... it's technically OFDMA-based, but that's a complicated discussion for another day.
If a device supports the proper LTE bands and isn't carrier locked, it doesn't give a hoot if its connecting to Verizon or AT&T - it will connect.
I can put a T-Mobile SIM in my Verizon Hotspot from 2012 and, provided I'm in an area where T-Mobile has Band 4 deployed (as it doesn't support Band 2 or Band 12), it works just fine.
Sim free phone allows you to choose any carrier and the phone won't be locked to a network.
If you're going to be in another country for a while you can buy a prepaid local Sim if you want so that way you aren't getting charged those ridiculous roaming rates.
You seem to have missed "If a device supports the proper LTE bands and isn't carrier locked, it doesn't give a hoot if its connecting to Verizon or AT&T - it will connect".
The T-Mobile model supports LTE on Bands 2, 4, and 13. The bands that Verizon uses.
Unless Apple has it written in their baseband to not allow it, a T-Mobile phone will connect to Verizon's LTE data network. It will NOT connect to 3G or 1X, as those are CDMA technologies, which the T-Mobile iPhone does NOT support. If you are in an area without VoLTE, you will not be able to make a phone call as a result.
if i buy the sprint iphone 7 plus at full price is it unlocked? im not a sprint customer. i just need an unlocked iphone 7 plus
All iPhones are unlocked when bought outright thru Apple. So, yes, the Sprint device will be unlocked.
But this is all theoretical as no site or person has actually tested the hardware to see if it will connect, right?
Correct.
I will see if I can stop by the local Verizon store and put a SIM card in my phone after I leave the gym today.
How did you do this? Did you sign up for Verizon first then reserve and buy the iPhone or did you do it all at the Apple Store? Also, were you able to cancel your Verizon service online or over the phone or did you have to go to a store? Also, I assume this required a second hard credit pull in addition to the citizen one IUP credit check. Is that right? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks.
Sure, I reserved thru IUP. Activation (verizn) and credit check (hard/citizenone) all done at local Apple store. Vrzn check, I provided id/credit card. 24hrs later I called Vrzn to cancel service. Vrzn rep will ask you why (sop) I explained to the rep, compared their rate with the other carrier their's higher. However, no matter what your reason for cancelling by law you can cancel anytime within 14 day period (product/service) w/o incurring early termination fee. Here's the caveat, you must cancel service within 3 days otherwise you'll pay the activation fee. Vrzn will be prorated for that month thus the $3+tax bill. Keep in mind, I activated Vrzn (lowest plan $55 mo.) postpaid mo-to-mo w/o contract. Here's the link Vrzn return policy: https://www.verizonwireless.com/landingpages/return-policy/
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Thanks - that's helpful. I can't even reserve a Verizon iPhone 7 for instore pickup under iUP without inputting my Verizon account info. Am I missing something? Also, did Verizon separately do a hard pull credit check?
Not sure why vrzn account info. are you using the istocknow (iUP)? You need an apple account to reserve.
I check my credit report there was no hard check inquiry verizon, but yes on citizenone (expected). Apple rep run my info thru I didn't talk to a vrzn rep. I think carrier's have some database they can inquire if your good standing with other carriers. I think if you don't have an established carrier account they will do hard check. I can confirmed this because my wife talked to a vrzn rep at the apple store while there to activate another line (her first carrier account). I just pulled her credit report there was a vrzn "hard credit" inquiry. Hope this helps.
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That person has it backward. As of the iPhone 7 the chipsets are reverted.. the GSM only model from ATT and TMO won't work on Verizon and the Verizon model works on everything.
When you preorder the iPhone 7, Apple asks you for your carrier password, social security, zip, and carrier PIN just to pay full price for a phone.
Welcome (finally) to the rest of the world, where Australia always enjoyed unlocked phones
Now if Apple U.S ditches their online carriers we'll all be happy..... I dunno why they do this. Here in Australia, Apple doesn't do that...
Here, you only ever payed for a phone only, user chooses which carrier they go to,, Apple never provides a choice to users..
Because on a plan u would be paying more than full price of a phone only to the carrier..
Plus, your not locked in for 24 moths with paying a disconnection fee to get out. (at least that's how i remember it)
Nope. My iPhone 7 was $650
I find this crap so confusing. And I get that it’s probably strategically and purposefully confusing
So basically the Verizon full-price iPhone is the sim-free iPhone. That really sucks for AT&T iphone owners who can’t switch to Verizon or Sprint. Most people probably don’t even know that. My sister was wondering why are they were asking for carrier account info when you’re just buying an unlocked phone. Apple doesn’t tell you why. Or it’s just buried on their site somewhere. This whole thing is just shady.
I’m on Verizon. I’m just upgrading phones. I ordered the full-price Verizon iphone. Should I just toss the new sim card? Are there any advantages to setting up my iphone with the new simcard or just putting my old iphone 5s sim in the new phone?
So basically the Verizon full-price iPhone is the sim-free iPhone. That really sucks for AT&T iphone owners who can’t switch to Verizon or Sprint. Most people probably don’t even know that. My sister was wondering why are they were asking for carrier account info when you’re just buying an unlocked phone. Apple doesn’t tell you why. Or it’s just buried on their site somewhere. This whole thing is just shady.
I’m on Verizon. I’m just upgrading phones. I ordered the full-price Verizon iphone. Should I just toss the new sim card? Are there any advantages to setting up my iphone with the new simcard or just putting my old iphone 5s sim in the new phone?
If you're on Verizon just use the SIM that you are using with your current phone.
Thanks. But since Apple asked for your zipcode, carrier pin, carrier password, social security, as MrX8503 wrote above, wouldn’t that suggest Apple is setting up the new sim card as a duplicate of my current iphone5s SIM card info?
Or maybe the process isn’t that tailored and Apple is asking for that info for some other reason?
Apparently Apple decides to use the new SIM in place of your old one when you purchase thru them. I just went thru the process up to checkout to see what they were asking for. Since they don't know your VZW account information they need all the details about you so they can sync up to your VZW account for activation.
I DO know from experience that the first thing they will try to do is run a credit check via Verizon who will say "yes, he's already a customer" and then have the information needed to assign the IMEI of your new phone to your VZW account. Using the SIM that the phone comes with just makes the process easier for them because in the model that Telcos to activate phones that they didn't sell in their own stores.
If you don't want to go thru all of that I'd recommend just going into a VZW store and purchasing direct from them. You'll be able to use your current SIM and be on your way.
That's the question. Some folks have mentioned that since the LTE bands are the same, an ATT/TMO iPhone 7 should still be able to use the Verizon LTE network while not being able to connect to 3G/CDMA. Steve.P.JobsFan mentioned that he was going to test this theory when he got the chance.
As for the Verizon model, can you easily get Sprint (and other CDMA MVNOs) to activate? I've always told people that the beauty of the SIM-free model was that it was whitelisted at all carriers.