Maybe so but you can’t move to Verizon if you have t mobile or AT&T phone due to wrong phone model. Stupid. I don’t carrier about the carriers but I like ability to move freely and not be locked especially if I pay full price and out right buy the phone
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SIM FREE MODEL - IPHONE X
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Chupa Chupa
macrumors G5
Fair enough. Depends on where you live. But the VZW model (A1865) works almost everywhere in the world except Japan. The GSM-only model does not work with some carriers in China, Australia, India, HK, New Zealand
Here is Apple's compatibility list for reference
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Not sure where you are. In the U.S. the only line was launch day. You can walk-in now. If they have stock, it's yours.
This is 100% correct, my Intel X worked fine with my VZW SIM, just with no CDMA fallback.
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How often does one fallback to CDMA now. I rarely fall to 4G on AT&T
that is what I thought.
How often does one fallback to CDMA now. I rarely fall to 4G on AT&T
newyorksole
macrumors 603
Huh? So you bought an iPhone X that shipped with a T-Mobile SIM inside of it and it works on Verizon? Interesting...
Only works with LTE?
This is not correct. The Verizon or Sprint model would be the SIM free when unlocked. It is a true world phone because of Qualcomm chip that supports CDMA.
IowaLynn
macrumors 68020
Just placed order for a T-M iPhone X so I could continue to use my SIM card (AT&T).
Shows 3-4 weeks for delivery.
GSM Carrier compatible:
https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/carrier-overlay/att-tmo
Shows 3-4 weeks for delivery.
GSM Carrier compatible:
https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/carrier-overlay/att-tmo
nviz22
Cancelled
I just spoke to an Apple Store employee in person and they said they had nothing in stock but no line for waiting either. People line up early and often in front of the store they say. I guess I have to set up one of those stock alert notification things, idk which one is legit though? Or get up at 6 am and place an order. I am split on which color I want. I like the Silver back, but it is also not as shiny or light colored as I expected. The Space Grey sides are all colored darker and it looks very sleek. It also hides the notch a bit better as well. I felt the Grey might be better for watching videos too.
fischersd
macrumors 603
Pretty sure the only difference between the iPhones for Japan vs AT&T/T-Mobile is the different NFC technology that is utilized in Japan (which isn't present in the models for the rest of the world).
Both of the other models should work just fine in Japan - they just don't support their contactless payments and other applications.
They never should have coined the term "SIM free" and left it as "Carrier Unlocked". It gets people confused. Wait until people start going to eSIMs for their phones. That will make it even more fun.
Both of the other models should work just fine in Japan - they just don't support their contactless payments and other applications.
They never should have coined the term "SIM free" and left it as "Carrier Unlocked". It gets people confused. Wait until people start going to eSIMs for their phones. That will make it even more fun.
nviz22
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eSIMs will allow Apple to sell one model and that being that. I still think Sprint and Verizon need to ditch CDMA tech since it is old and not so relevant.
fischersd
macrumors 603
Was just watching the iPhone 5 introduction commercial on another thread....reminded me that the iPhone 5 was when they introduced LTE in an iPhone.
Yes, it's been THAT long that the CDMA carriers have been sitting on their asses, taking their sweet time migrating.
Verizon's stated that they'll have it shut down at the end of 2019 (which, I think means there may not be any iPhones produced with native CDMA support in that year's fall announcement).
Edit: eSIMs will allow Apple to get rid of the SIM card slot. Maybe be that much closer to a 50 meter water resistance rating? (or do we need to get rid of the lightning port first?)
Chupa Chupa
macrumors G5
Color doesn't matter if you are going to put it in a case because the front is exactly the same on both. put it in a case you can't tell what color it is. To me @ $1000+ it's too expensive and too fragile to not put in a case. Repair cost is insane even if you buy AppleCare.
When I bought mine I preferred Space Gray (which is what I did get) but I would have taken Silver and been just as happy. BTW the notch fades away. It's not really a distraction -- at least hasn't been for me.
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I'm sure eventually. No reason why it wouldn't. Supply has to catch up with demand first. With exception of the 8, usually it's about 6-8 weeks after launch. So maybe by mid-Dec.
nviz22
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It’s all about the money.
Apple playing hard ball with Qualcomm cause they think Qualcomm is over charging them for cdma modems.
So they are using Intel modems for gsm carriers and being less dependent on Qualcomm. Cause of their lawsuit.
Intel models for iPhone are on their 2nd generation (1st intel model iPhone 7 gsm)
If u have no desire to go with Verizon and sprint. Gsm iPhones will work. Performance wise. I think Qualcomm modems are better than intel modem but 99.9% of consumers won’t notice a difference.
That’s why I returned my iPhone X. I do want that option if I’m paying full price for iPhone X.
I just brought iPhone 8 Plus at Sams club for $300 gift card (which is like cash to me since we shop at Sams for food anyways)
I can deal with intel modem for $300 gift cart.
So iPhone 8 Plus cost me $800 Plus tAxes ($50) Plus includes $300 gift card. And waived activations.
Net cost is $550. Not bad for 64gb model I know I can resell in one year for around $500. Like almost free year owning iPhone.
Apple playing hard ball with Qualcomm cause they think Qualcomm is over charging them for cdma modems.
So they are using Intel modems for gsm carriers and being less dependent on Qualcomm. Cause of their lawsuit.
Intel models for iPhone are on their 2nd generation (1st intel model iPhone 7 gsm)
If u have no desire to go with Verizon and sprint. Gsm iPhones will work. Performance wise. I think Qualcomm modems are better than intel modem but 99.9% of consumers won’t notice a difference.
That’s why I returned my iPhone X. I do want that option if I’m paying full price for iPhone X.
I just brought iPhone 8 Plus at Sams club for $300 gift card (which is like cash to me since we shop at Sams for food anyways)
I can deal with intel modem for $300 gift cart.
So iPhone 8 Plus cost me $800 Plus tAxes ($50) Plus includes $300 gift card. And waived activations.
Net cost is $550. Not bad for 64gb model I know I can resell in one year for around $500. Like almost free year owning iPhone.
Hi all,
If sprint iPhone X is bought in full price from Apple store model 1865, would it function like the Verizon model? Meaning i would be able to insert any sim to activate correct? Or would it require sprint SIM card?
If sprint iPhone X is bought in full price from Apple store model 1865, would it function like the Verizon model? Meaning i would be able to insert any sim to activate correct? Or would it require sprint SIM card?
If you’re in a case I doubt there’s much difference
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My iPhone 7 Plus was a Verizon model on the AT&T network. I’ve had my iPhone X And after just a few days I can’t tell much difference in performance on cellular and Wi-Fi. But I don’t like is the fact I can’t really take this phone and fully use it on the Verizon network if I ever decide to change carriers which is doubtful
I paid full price and I fully agree and believe there should be no restrictions on where I take this phone carrier standpoint in the United States or for that matter anywhere in the world
If you buy the Sprint or VZ model full price @ Apple then yes. They are identical
IF, and thats a big IF, I had to get an iPhone X, I would make sure it did NOT have the intel modem. I'm on AT&T and I would try to get the Verizon or Sprint with the qualcomm modem. I hate that Intel POS in my 7+. I think its terrible and it's what I hate most about my current phone. My wireless speed in my home network seem slower than my 6+, reception is quite worse and even my LTE speed aren't as high as they used to be.
Even though I am never hitting the maximums they say the modem is capable of, it just doesn't seem to do as well.
I would even consider paying the $100 premium BB wanted to avoid it. Even though apple still doesn't use Gigabit LTE modems in it's flagship device that cheaper competitors do. Pathetic for their "Phone of the future". Sorry, not in its current form.
Even though I am never hitting the maximums they say the modem is capable of, it just doesn't seem to do as well.
I would even consider paying the $100 premium BB wanted to avoid it. Even though apple still doesn't use Gigabit LTE modems in it's flagship device that cheaper competitors do. Pathetic for their "Phone of the future". Sorry, not in its current form.
Chupa Chupa
macrumors G5
No. Front on both colors is identical and both have front black bezels. The differences start with the side band which doesn't touch the front screen really.
Yes. I paid full price for my wife unlocked intel iPhone 7 Plus last year at launch and wish I waited 4-5 weeks for them for the Qualcomm sim free model.
I considered switching to Verizon right before they changed the new unlimited data plans in late August 2017 (I liked their new unlimited feb 2017 but hate their new new unlimited August 2017 plan)
But one of the reasons is we would have to buy her another $800-900 iPhone to work on Verizon and than sell the intel iPhone 7 Plus. Just a hassle. I had the Qualcomm universal 6s Plus so it would have been easy for me but not for her.
Our friends in same boat. They have att and want to switch to Verizon but don’t want to replace their intel iPhone 7 Plus.
It’s just annoying being limited. I’m happy with att don’t get me wrong. But just the option to move to Verizon or sprint. And we are being restricted
