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Simple Painting Application
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Just like to mention that the 0.0.1 version apparently works in Panther, too. It'll let me make documents of different sizes now, as well as colorful shapes, but nothing else works.
I know you've made it for 10.4, but you know. Thought you'd like to know there's some Panther functionality too now!
I know you've made it for 10.4, but you know. Thought you'd like to know there's some Panther functionality too now!
not bad application. i find this program to be very promising and i would have to say: "THANK YOU" to you.
if you look at version tracker's comments in the download link, they are so discouraging.
"This "application" gives lame and slow whole new meanings. Why would anyone waste time on making something so useless. No one will ever use this no matter what you add on to it. Why clog up version tracker with your first attempt a writting an application. If it's not your first time, then this is not the road you want to go down. I have to give it one star because that's the lowest the rating goes. They don't have minus 5 stars."
WTFF? (what the fing fk?) those morons don't understand the process and stages of successful programs. if there weren't doom 1, then doom 3 won't exist. if it wasen't for unreal, then unreal tournament 2004 won't exist. if OS 7 didn't exist, then 10.4 tiger won't. i have another good example. you know RK launcher? a dock used for windows that is supposed to be better than objectdock? i have seen the 0.1 alpha program when there is only 10fps, only one icon, and all it does is sit there and show a magnifying effect when you move your mouse over it. that's all. it won't launch anything, and it is plain useless. now, guess what? from this:
http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=3721
(where not even icons can be displayed)
to this
http://carvetia.needlemen.com/larsen/aladin.mov
although this is a bad example because it's an insult to a few of us mac users, you see my point? a simple useless program that the developer created became something worth downloading, and yes, the developer credited the idea and concept to apple.
don't give up. i strongly urge you to continue to devlop a good program with the ease of use and features that we want. there are too many programs that have the wrong concept and fail to please the audience, and therefore they stopped making it better.
i just had to let this out of my mind. sorry
if you look at version tracker's comments in the download link, they are so discouraging.
"This "application" gives lame and slow whole new meanings. Why would anyone waste time on making something so useless. No one will ever use this no matter what you add on to it. Why clog up version tracker with your first attempt a writting an application. If it's not your first time, then this is not the road you want to go down. I have to give it one star because that's the lowest the rating goes. They don't have minus 5 stars."
WTFF? (what the fing fk?) those morons don't understand the process and stages of successful programs. if there weren't doom 1, then doom 3 won't exist. if it wasen't for unreal, then unreal tournament 2004 won't exist. if OS 7 didn't exist, then 10.4 tiger won't. i have another good example. you know RK launcher? a dock used for windows that is supposed to be better than objectdock? i have seen the 0.1 alpha program when there is only 10fps, only one icon, and all it does is sit there and show a magnifying effect when you move your mouse over it. that's all. it won't launch anything, and it is plain useless. now, guess what? from this:
http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/attachment.php?attachmentid=3721
(where not even icons can be displayed)
to this
http://carvetia.needlemen.com/larsen/aladin.mov
although this is a bad example because it's an insult to a few of us mac users, you see my point? a simple useless program that the developer created became something worth downloading, and yes, the developer credited the idea and concept to apple.
don't give up. i strongly urge you to continue to devlop a good program with the ease of use and features that we want. there are too many programs that have the wrong concept and fail to please the audience, and therefore they stopped making it better.
i just had to let this out of my mind. sorry
livingfortoday said:
0.0.3 should support 10.3 as well as 10.4 (0.0.2 is an internal version). 0.0.3 is coming along quite well. I have changed the internal architecture quite a bit (that was 0.0.2) which will make adding new tools much easier, as well as making 10.3 support much easier. I think it's quite a bit faster but moving the mouse really quickly still leads to "skips".
@steelfist: Thanks for the support
Don't worry, I'm not giving up!
Thanks for listening, robbieduncan. It's a great program really but alas I'm still using Pantherrobbieduncan said:
Edit: The icon is cool too I might say..
New version time!
0.0.3 Release
New in this version:
And last but not least I think this version should work for 10.3 users. I'm afraid I don't currently have a machine with 10.3 installed so if someone can test it and get back to me I'd really appreciate it.
I hope that those of you out there following the development of this app will see this as the fairly big step forward that it is. The Rectangle and Ellipse tools are examples of the way I hope to develop this app: simple tools that work the way you'd expect with some nice touches (check out the way the buttons in the toolbox change colour as you change the selected colours).
0.0.3 Release
New in this version:
- Brush tool now has more complete options.
- Pencil tool is now a proper pencil tool (1 pixel editor).
- Selected tool restored on restart.
- Tools with options restore on restart.
- Further optimised drawing.
- Colour selections restored on restart.
- Rectangle and ellipse tools now supports outlined and filled outlined modes.
- Rectangle and ellipse tools options live update to match the colors selected.
And last but not least I think this version should work for 10.3 users. I'm afraid I don't currently have a machine with 10.3 installed so if someone can test it and get back to me I'd really appreciate it.
I hope that those of you out there following the development of this app will see this as the fairly big step forward that it is. The Rectangle and Ellipse tools are examples of the way I hope to develop this app: simple tools that work the way you'd expect with some nice touches (check out the way the buttons in the toolbox change colour as you change the selected colours).
Nice - I like the universal binary
You should make the drawing connected, not just dots... instead of drawing at X and Y, draw a line from the previous (X, Y) to the current (X, Y). That's how most apps do it - it makes it look much smoother.
You should also make by default the middle mouse button (wheel) as an eraser, so you can have quick erasing.. or the right button.
One more thing.. The cursor, or the area below the cursor on the canvas, should represent what will be painted below. So if you're using the brush, you should see a brush of that size moving around, so you know what will be drawn when you draw.
Anyways, good job. Looks good
You should make the drawing connected, not just dots... instead of drawing at X and Y, draw a line from the previous (X, Y) to the current (X, Y). That's how most apps do it - it makes it look much smoother.
You should also make by default the middle mouse button (wheel) as an eraser, so you can have quick erasing.. or the right button.
One more thing.. The cursor, or the area below the cursor on the canvas, should represent what will be painted below. So if you're using the brush, you should see a brush of that size moving around, so you know what will be drawn when you draw.
Anyways, good job. Looks good
Wow, this is a big improvement over 0.0.2 in Panther! All I've noticed is that Spray doesn't seem to work, and there are no settings for the pencil, it's just one standard size (too small, too). Other than that, everything seems to work great!
Keep up the great work! I can't wait 'till this passes Paint quality! Shouldn't be long now...
Keep up the great work! I can't wait 'till this passes Paint quality! Shouldn't be long now...
kainjow said:Nice - I like the universal binary
You should make the drawing connected, not just dots... instead of drawing at X and Y, draw a line from the previous (X, Y) to the current (X, Y). That's how most apps do it - it makes it look much smoother.
You should also make by default the middle mouse button (wheel) as an eraser, so you can have quick erasing.. or the right button.
One more thing.. The cursor, or the area below the cursor on the canvas, should represent what will be painted below. So if you're using the brush, you should see a brush of that size moving around, so you know what will be drawn when you draw.
Anyways, good job. Looks good
Most of these things are already planned, but you've got to walk before you can run!
The pencil isn't meant to have any settings and it's meant to be a 1x1 tool for fine editing. I'm fairly certain that this is how MS Paint works and as it's designed to be a paint replacement...livingfortoday said:
I'll look into the spray not working. It's not very good even when it does work at the moment!
I tried version 0.0.3 and it really shows potential. Those people on versiontracker just don't see the potential, instead, they judge the program as if it had reached it's final version.
Here is my opinion:
Apple doesn't provide any application for simple painting. So, in an ideal world, PosterPaint comes to fill this gap. It's features are very basic so far, but they are better than nothing, and I am sure that I'm going to use this in the future.
My most requested feature is to write text onto images... But apart from that, I can already think of a few reasons why I should use this app.
1)It's free
2)There is nothing equivalent on the mac
3)I want to support individual developers, and especially the creator of posterpaint because I can see great potential in this app.
How do I know this can become a great app?
Firstly, it will be free (I hope). Secondly, it is one of the few multiprocessor universal binaries out there. It is a great step forwards. Thirdly, those features already implemented are not easy to find in a non-commercial freeware program that is so fast and simple to use.
Noone said that PosterPaint will replace Paint during its infant stages. PosterPaint is just an application developed by a man who loves programming and wants to give something in the world that is hard to find. I don't know if that person will succeed in his purpose, but I for one believe we should give his program a try, and maybe we end up using this program a lot!
Remember VLC? At first it was total crap, and I preferred Quicktime over it. Now, there is no computer in Windows and Mac who hasn't heard of it because it is one of the best freeware programs out there. And it all begun when someone thought he would create version 0.0.0 of VLC, which could play only 2 formats of video.... Think about it!
Here is my opinion:
Apple doesn't provide any application for simple painting. So, in an ideal world, PosterPaint comes to fill this gap. It's features are very basic so far, but they are better than nothing, and I am sure that I'm going to use this in the future.
My most requested feature is to write text onto images... But apart from that, I can already think of a few reasons why I should use this app.
1)It's free
2)There is nothing equivalent on the mac
3)I want to support individual developers, and especially the creator of posterpaint because I can see great potential in this app.
How do I know this can become a great app?
Firstly, it will be free (I hope). Secondly, it is one of the few multiprocessor universal binaries out there. It is a great step forwards. Thirdly, those features already implemented are not easy to find in a non-commercial freeware program that is so fast and simple to use.
Noone said that PosterPaint will replace Paint during its infant stages. PosterPaint is just an application developed by a man who loves programming and wants to give something in the world that is hard to find. I don't know if that person will succeed in his purpose, but I for one believe we should give his program a try, and maybe we end up using this program a lot!
Remember VLC? At first it was total crap, and I preferred Quicktime over it. Now, there is no computer in Windows and Mac who hasn't heard of it because it is one of the best freeware programs out there. And it all begun when someone thought he would create version 0.0.0 of VLC, which could play only 2 formats of video.... Think about it!
Soulstorm said:
Thanks for the encouragement. It means a lot that there are people out there who appreciate the app.
To answer a few of the points raised:
1) The app is currently and as far as I am concerned will always be free. I have a real job to pay the bills. This is (as weird as it sounds) just for fun. All the code is open-source as well so if I get bored and stop, or have a massive change of heart and start charging for this, then someone else could pick it up.
2) The fact that there is nothing equivalent on the Mac has always surprised me. As others have pointed out Mac System 1.0 had Mac Paint! If there had been a free or very low cost app that I was aware of I would not have started doing this.
3) I think that the small/individual developer market on OSX is one of the great things about the platform. Cocoa and XCode make this possible. I've just watched the "Evening at Adler" video and the talent and skill of this market on the Mac is amazing (and very intimidating, Will Shipley has done it all).
With regards to where this is going I've decided to post a quick development plan. I'm not promising to follow it, and I've certainly not put any timescales! I hope to have 0.0.4 out before Christmas. I know you all want a text tool and it's way down my list but that's mostly because I think it will be hard!
Anyway thanks for the support, it's all downhill from here!
New Version Bump!
0.0.4 has just been uploaded to my .Mac account.
New in this version:
I hope to get another version out before Christmas that will have quite a few improvements in it too.
0.0.4 has just been uploaded to my .Mac account.
New in this version:
- Added options for setting image background on new images and added option for transparent backgrounds.
- Revert (on the File menu) supported (OSX 10.4 only).
- Alpha channel can be added and removed from images.
- Images can be flipped horizontally and vertically.
- Spray tool works in 10.3.
- Spray tool now alpha blends at the edges.
- Spray tool shows preview in options.
- Brush tool shows preview in options.
- Ellipse tool supports antialiasing.
I hope to get another version out before Christmas that will have quite a few improvements in it too.
hmm thank you for the program but I'm still confused if your program can copy and paste images.
With MS paint, I would open up a blank page and just copy and paste seperate images into the white page to create a collage of pics. Can I do the same with your program?
With MS paint, I would open up a blank page and just copy and paste seperate images into the white page to create a collage of pics. Can I do the same with your program?
WillMak said:
Right now? No. You can't copy/paste anything at all. It's on the to-do list though...
FINALLY someone made a simple to use and really basic paint app. I dont understand why Macs dont come with a program like this. Thank you!
Thank you so much. I just got a macbook for my birthday and i used MS Paint sooo much. So when i couldnt find a drawing program i was angry. Thanks again!
Yes, I'm just really really lazy when it comes to writing it. I am working on completing a release that enables some new features including image and canvas resizing. I am aware of the canvas versus window centering thing. It's on the list of stuff to do.