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'Simplify Music 2.0' Brings Upgrades to Popular iTunes Library Streamer
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Does anyone know where the Simplify Demo is so I can turn it off. It automatically is added with the upgrade and adds a "Brad Sucks" CD to your listings. I can't seem to find it anywhere.
UPDATE: I think its stored on their servers.
UPDATE: I think its stored on their servers.
The fact that you paid for the app already doesn't mean anything. You got the app you paid for didn't you?
You don't have to pay for the new version, but the programmers that spent time making it are very fair in asking for compensation.
You don't have to pay for the new version, but the programmers that spent time making it are very fair in asking for compensation.
Hold on a second. Are you saying that when you bought the SimplifyMedia app that they didn't give it to you? Were you not satisfied with the app when you bought it?
I realize that you may be pissed here but this app has been on the app store for well over a year. For a long time the app was free. Do they not have a right to make a 2.0 of a product and charge for the work that they put into it? For $4 you have a lot functionality in the app. For $4 bucks you can stream your entire library anywhere you are without having to configure your router. Last.fm support with lyrics. Chat. Notifications of what others listen to. Most people would have paid $15 or $20 for that functionality. All this while programming for three different OS's.
They even said on their blog: "Unfortunately, given our development costs, we can’t afford to make it a free upgrade on all platforms"
Your app has not changed. It isn't going anywhere. You act as if some stole the money out of your pockets.
BTW they added much more than just search functionality.
This is just like the idiots who complain because an HD TV season is $59 on iTunes.
People can't expect to get free updates to apps forever. These developers need money too. I think it will be funny when more and more developers do this and people start crying even more.
People can't expect to get free updates to apps forever. These developers need money too. I think it will be funny when more and more developers do this and people start crying even more.
donlphi
macrumors 6502
yeah... without the video, I'm not really digging it. I like the features it has so far, and quite frankly, I'm not sure why Apple hasn't integrated this into iPhone already.
What if Simplify Media would allow game developers to install a "mini-client" within the game so you could stream while playing that game. This would help make up for the fact that you can't multitask on the iPhone.
For example, I could be playing Light Bike or Sim City while listening to streamed audio.
What if Simplify Media would allow game developers to install a "mini-client" within the game so you could stream while playing that game. This would help make up for the fact that you can't multitask on the iPhone.
For example, I could be playing Light Bike or Sim City while listening to streamed audio.
Looks like this same discussion is going on on Simplify Media's site...
http://www.simplifymedia.com/blog/?p=68#comment-5671
http://www.simplifymedia.com/blog/?p=68#comment-5671
stratmancj
macrumors newbie
first, i don't know many people who own iphones who eat happy meals
second, if they take that happy meal and do a major upgrade to it, i'm sure it will be worth $6, like most value meal costs
dukebound85
macrumors Core
I don't even use the app very often, after noticing such a drastic difference in audio quality between those files on the iPhone and those streaming from home.
If that issue could be fixed (or even addressed) I'd begin to entertain the thought of paying again, but to pay again for a simple search function, etc, is not worth it to me.
Pass.
If that issue could be fixed (or even addressed) I'd begin to entertain the thought of paying again, but to pay again for a simple search function, etc, is not worth it to me.
Pass.
kas23
macrumors 603
This is totally apple & oranges - what a horrible comparison.
Does Apple make you pay for every 10.5.x upgrade? I see paying for a 10.x upgrade every 1-1.5 years. With Simplify Media's new model, what is going to stop them from charging for every single new update? Are they going to come out with 2.1 in 1 month and charge another $2.99 for it? I know that may be extreme, but there is currently nothing in place to stop them from doing this. You just wait...
I just posted this in the simplify media forum linked above and I think it does a great job at illustrating how I feel about this:
For those of you that want to remove the "Simplify Demo" user like I did, a new update was released tonight. Damn, that was quick. The iPhone version 2.02 will be out by the end of the week.
http://www.simplifymedia.com/blog/?p=69
http://www.simplifymedia.com/blog/?p=69
demo? Isn't that a forbidden iPhone app word?
I kid you not, an earlier version of my app ooTunes Radio was rejected solely for having a button that said "demo". The same day, ars posted this:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/app-store-lessons-apple-clarifies-upsell-policy.ars
It totally pissed me off at the time, but maybe it is a good policy to avoid this kind of confusion?
I kid you not, an earlier version of my app ooTunes Radio was rejected solely for having a button that said "demo". The same day, ars posted this:
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2009/02/app-store-lessons-apple-clarifies-upsell-policy.ars
It totally pissed me off at the time, but maybe it is a good policy to avoid this kind of confusion?
kas23
macrumors 603
I agree with your view. This is indeed an update and in no way warrants an app re-purchase. Thus as an update, they should not be charging. It just does not have any vast improvements in it to be called anything more than an update. By making it a new app, you are stating that it is completely different app - and this is not so. I agree they could if they added video to this app. But, don't worry, that's next (and without a doubt will be another "new" app).
For people saying that the developer has to eat and stuff, developers also have the right to increase the price of their app. But, Simplify Media did the exact opposite. They lowered the price of their app to $0.99 on 4/23, probably leading many people to buy it. These are the people who were cheated out - how were they to know that this app was going to be discontinued 6 days later?
Confused?
If you don't like it - surely you don't buy the upgrade?
I didn't like the app (although I can't pretend I wasted a whole lot of time trying to figure it out) because it seemed to require that I leave my computer on all the time which, in these environmentally conscious times, ought to be punishable by social exclusion, and possibly the death penalty... 😉
For me, I'm probably going to just delete it. Just my two penneth. Ta.
If you don't like it - surely you don't buy the upgrade?
I didn't like the app (although I can't pretend I wasted a whole lot of time trying to figure it out) because it seemed to require that I leave my computer on all the time which, in these environmentally conscious times, ought to be punishable by social exclusion, and possibly the death penalty... 😉
For me, I'm probably going to just delete it. Just my two penneth. Ta.
papiti
macrumors regular
You also paid for OS X, and still Apple expect you to pay for upgrades! Boo!
What a bunch of whiners with inflated sense of entitlement....
It's a perfectly valid comparison
They do not charge for bugfix-releases, but they expect you to pay $129 for feature-updates. Why not whine about that? I mean, this version brings feature-updates with it. In OS X-land, this would be a paid update.
What a complete RIP OFF!
Charging for an update so you can search for songs (a feature the original should have had!)
I'm deleting the App and filing a complaint with Apple.
I recommend that others do the same.
Shame on you!!😡
Charging for an update so you can search for songs (a feature the original should have had!)
I'm deleting the App and filing a complaint with Apple.
I recommend that others do the same.
Shame on you!!😡
gloss
macrumors 601
You guys are hilarious.
Simplify was offered for free in order to turn people on to the service. It costs these guys money to develop and maintain the program. If you people are so cheap and/or selfish that spending $3 ONCE on an app that you may use constantly is something that you have to create hate threads about, they're probably better off not having you as customers.
No, this is like McDonalds offering a 'free Happy Meal' promotion for a limited time, and then after it ends, people bitching that they no longer get free meals and might actually have to pay for something that they use.
Simplify was offered for free in order to turn people on to the service. It costs these guys money to develop and maintain the program. If you people are so cheap and/or selfish that spending $3 ONCE on an app that you may use constantly is something that you have to create hate threads about, they're probably better off not having you as customers.
papiti said:
No, this is like McDonalds offering a 'free Happy Meal' promotion for a limited time, and then after it ends, people bitching that they no longer get free meals and might actually have to pay for something that they use.