I guess they don't study the past tense where you schooled.
It was free. Then it cost money. Then they lowered the cost. Then they released a new version. This is normal behavior. Stop whining.
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I guess they don't study the past tense where you schooled.
It was free. Then it cost money. Then they lowered the cost. Then they released a new version. This is normal behavior. Stop whining.
And I paid $3.99 for it. I don't care if it was FREE in the past! I don't expect to pay another $2.99 for a feature it should have had in the first place!
That's complete bull!
I do agree that people who paid full price for the app in the past, say, week or two should be allowed a free upgrade.
I still think that this whole thing may have been averted had they not mentioned "2.0" in their new product name.
First, you never start a new product release with 2.0. It starts with 1.0. If you expand or update upon it, it's still the same product with a new version number.
If it's a different evolution of the product, even if most of the base code is the same (at least change the UI a bit!), then you should have the right to release it as a new product.
Has Simplify said anything about the backlash their receiving over this whole flap?
Nowadays, it's all about reputation - ever since Best Buy and Circuit City screwed me or my friends/family over, I never even set foot in the place again, and rather ordered and gone through the hassle of mailing back an RMA to NewEgg, TigerDirect, and even some no-name website that's probably a mom 'n pop store that's just starting to handle online orders. I and probably several hundred thousand other people believed and did the same thing and that's what made CC go out of business.
If Simplify can make good on this, I'm all ears.
First, you never start a new product release with 2.0. It starts with 1.0. If you expand or update upon it, it's still the same product with a new version number.
If it's a different evolution of the product, even if most of the base code is the same (at least change the UI a bit!), then you should have the right to release it as a new product.
Has Simplify said anything about the backlash their receiving over this whole flap?
Nowadays, it's all about reputation - ever since Best Buy and Circuit City screwed me or my friends/family over, I never even set foot in the place again, and rather ordered and gone through the hassle of mailing back an RMA to NewEgg, TigerDirect, and even some no-name website that's probably a mom 'n pop store that's just starting to handle online orders. I and probably several hundred thousand other people believed and did the same thing and that's what made CC go out of business.
If Simplify can make good on this, I'm all ears.
They screwed themselfs on this one!
Check out the last 20 reviews in the iPhone app store. All negative with 1 star. (that's going from all positive 5 star ratings)
Stupid, stupid stupid!
Check out the last 20 reviews in the iPhone app store. All negative with 1 star. (that's going from all positive 5 star ratings)Stupid, stupid stupid!
Really?
I tried it out today with no problems. I don't like that we can't play music bought from iTunes but it's a pretty cool app.
Not cool about making people pay for an updated app again though.
I tried it out today with no problems. I don't like that we can't play music bought from iTunes but it's a pretty cool app.
Not cool about making people pay for an updated app again though.
Anyone into Israeli (Mizrahi) music? My library has gotten out of control with over 14,000 tracks from CDs my in-laws are piling on me every other week.
Until they figure out a way to make it work with the web proxy I have to go through at work I won't purchase the app. I got the original when it was free, and enjoy it on my iPhone, but I'd love to have it at work also.
funny, simplifiy media didnt charge for any small updates. only the big one
so yea....the exact same scenario
What "big one" do you speak of? I wouldn't exactly call adding the ability to search a "big one".
I don't think you are grasping the implications of charging for an update, which is the real issue. Exactly what update changes warrant a "new" app? When a developer needs a little extra cash, are they going to just make a "new" app with a few minor changes that otherwise would have been included within a free upgrade?
This is likely also going to lead developers to prematurely release raw, less refined beta versions of apps if they know they will be allowed to charge for upgrades. The more potential upgrades = the more money to be made.
And what about the people (including myself) who just purchased the "original" app days before it was upgraded to "2.0"? They put it on sale to move copies - basically enticing consumers to buy an app that would be obsolete only days later. If I knew it was going to be upgraded in days, I would have just waited and paid the extra money for "2.0". In fact, if I waited, SM would actually have made more money off of me ($0.99 vs $2.99). A more reasonable, honest approach would have been to drop the price of the original version after "2.0" was released (not before).
This is a lesson to people that they should think very hard before purchasing an app (especially ones on sale), because without warning, it very well could be obsolete only days later. You may say the same thing can occur with regular computer applications, but at least people have a good idea what is going to be updated and when.
i know im not a fan of it per say because of how it could be abused. i do think it is warranted in some cases though
I agree. I'm not against paying developers for a superior product, but I feel there should be at least some basic "ground rules" on how and how often one can charge for upgrades.
If SM had released "2.0" and then decreased the price of the "original," I would have been fine by this. Or, they could have stated "We are placing this app on sale today, but we are upgrading to an improved version in short while and you will not be eligible to upgrade to this improved version without re-purchasing this new app."
There alreade are ground rules. They are these: Developer can charge for each and every update if he wants to.
I really don't understand where this "all upgrades should be free"-notion comes from... Apple charges for feature-upgrades to OS X, yet no-one whines. And instead of asking for few bucks, they ask for 129 bucks!
What I get from this whining is a sense of entitlement. That is, you feel that you are somehow entitled to free updates. Well, you are not. Adobe does not give you free updates, Apple does not give you free updates (I'm currently thinking of upgrading my installation of Aperture from 1.5 to 2.x, and it costs me 99 bucks to do so).... So what's different this time? Are things different because we are talking about iPhone-apps?
wow what a bunch of whiners....
i am happy to pay for this app. I got the original for free and i didn't even know they changed it to cost $$. But even if i did pay for the original, i'd still be happy to pay for this.
i think 99.9 % of iPhone apps are crap, and this is one of the only apps that is actually worth money...
s**t, I'd pay $9.99 for this app.
at least it is useful.
i wish Apple would come out with an Official app like this too.
i am happy to pay for this app. I got the original for free and i didn't even know they changed it to cost $$. But even if i did pay for the original, i'd still be happy to pay for this.
i think 99.9 % of iPhone apps are crap, and this is one of the only apps that is actually worth money...
s**t, I'd pay $9.99 for this app.
at least it is useful.
i wish Apple would come out with an Official app like this too.
Simplify Music 2.O and the Remote App
Has anyone encountered any problems using the Remote app when Simplify is running in the system tray? Ever since I installed Simplify Media and the app on my iPhone, the Remote app has not worked. I have tried uninstalling everything (on both the phone and computer), then just installing the remote app, and it still does not work.
And, yes the wifi is up and running properly.
Any suggestions?
Thank you all.
Rosco
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PC - Vista Home Premium
Running the latest Itunes / Remote / iPhone software versions
Has anyone encountered any problems using the Remote app when Simplify is running in the system tray? Ever since I installed Simplify Media and the app on my iPhone, the Remote app has not worked. I have tried uninstalling everything (on both the phone and computer), then just installing the remote app, and it still does not work.
And, yes the wifi is up and running properly.
Any suggestions?
Thank you all.
Rosco
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PC - Vista Home Premium
Running the latest Itunes / Remote / iPhone software versions
um, I don't remember ever paying for the original app. it's a great app that I use every day at work. $3 for an upgrade is nothing.
I like free stuff too, but sometimes I think people are just cheap. It's $3. If the upgrade is worth it, pay it. If not, don't. They're not forcing you to upgrade.
I like free stuff too, but sometimes I think people are just cheap. It's $3. If the upgrade is worth it, pay it. If not, don't. They're not forcing you to upgrade.
I downloaded this app hoping to hook my iPhone to another set of speakers in the kitchen while I play from my computer to the living room via Airport. While I can access the music fine it appears that I can't access the exactly what is playing on the other speakers. True? Thanks!! and if so, would Air Tunes work for that?