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This comes across to me as though Marques uses Android as his daily phone and knows what to expect from it and hopes that Siri will give him the same result, and not the other way around. For example, he either doesn't know or purposefully omitted that you can ask Siri for "my pictures of cats" and she will show you your own pictures of cats, rather than generic pictures of cats.

He also persisted on asking a contextual follow up question when Siri clearly missed the original question. Of course she's not going to know the follow up. For the record, she understood the same exact question when I asked "How tall is Barack Obama" and unlimited follow ups like "where was he born", "how old is he", etc etc etc... Siri also understood "Mark Zuckerberg" the first time I asked.

I was impressed that Siri was consistently faster at answering questions than Google Assistant and I appreciated the presentation of the answers in a well designed card instead of the small busy copy in Google's responses.

Finally, another one of his criticisms was that Siri presents visual information rather than read it out. Again, his ignorance of iOS is showing. Siri will read information to you when she thinks that you're doing an activity where you're not looking at the screen. For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.
It is easy, Brownlee is primary mac/iphone user BUT he builds his channel on bashing apple, majority of his followers are android users and fanboys that aporeciate his ironic comments about apple products.

So, if he makes any comparison, I believe it is at least little bid biased (in a sense: lets show anything for which I can say apple is worse - this makes majority of his followers happy and his channel generating revenue).

To the topic, dont know about goigle assisstant but here in my country, siri is unusable - does not speak my language, does not have contextual info (and does not understand perfectly my english with my broken accent;)) so all it can be used for are simple tasks like opening app and setting alarm...
 
The difference is Apple doesn't turn around and sell our info while google does. It's in their terms of services.

Google demographic data that in no way identifies you, sold as demographic data

As apposed to everything you say to Siri in your voice ....but assigned a random indentifier....cause your voice is not potentially unique.

You do realise that Siri will capture anything you say, so if you accidentally trigger Siri and say something personal you don't want anyone to know, that is being stored by apple for 2 years as a voice file. Just cause Siri does not give you an answer it does not mean it's not recorded it for processing.

So which is worse , google tracking that 34% of people in Shepherd's Bush searched for X brand of pancakes on Friday or Siri capturing in your voice that you like to smear pancakes on my body (as a joke)

Would you prefer to be an anonymous sample of that 34% or your voice recording stored for 2 years..... I know which is a breech of my privacy.

The reality here is both google and apple are as bad as each over. Privacy is not who you sell data to....its what you collect, your privacy is breached at the collection point.

Though the above is just to illustrate ananymous demographic data v unique individual collection of data , your voice, I assume google assistant is just as bad in capturing your voice data.
 
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I really want to like Siri but it's so unrealistic for anything taking place outside its own "playground".

Most recent example for me is this:
Yesterday morning I asked "who has bagels with lox around here?"
It heard me as such and returned the following answer:
"Who has bagels with locks around here?"
"I don't understand who has bagels with locks around here"

I asked it again clearly and slowly: same result.

The only thing I ever use Siri for is to set timers when I' cooking. Oh and when I have to give my music 5 stars in Music.
I really hope it gets better! I want it to be good but it never seems to improve. I've had a consistent experience with it since release.
 
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... For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.

Translation: "he was holding it wrong". Stop blaming the user. He was speaking to Siri. Normal response would be for Siri to speak back.

If someone doesn't want the phone to make noise like speaking back, they would have typed their search query.
 
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Siri was a fun toy when it first arrived on the scene, that was before I started trying to use to get things done - and at that point it turned into a seriously annoying PIA. It has a long ways to go, and Apple is going to find getting there is not going to be fast or easy.
 
But...when you go into the Apple Store app, apple suggests what accessories I need for my iPhone. They dig through my buying history , find the device, show me in the store app what the device is and suggest what I should buy. I don't remember consenting to this....

Suggested content via iTunes??

Also in your example above, google does not actually know it's you.....big difference. Apple knows exactly it's you, cause it's mining your data to give joy suggestions based on what you have bought.
Or they know the device your using because it's registered with your Apple ID
 
Siri did much better than I thought! In fact, better in many ways - UI, faster at times, answered a couple questions google couldn't. And combined with Apple's strict privacy policy, I feel safer using Siri. Well done Apple.


Take a look at Apple's privacy policy: http://www.apple.com/legal/privacy/en-ww/

Apple thinks things like your address, birth date, occupation, search queries, credit history (when you sign up in IUP) are not private ... So it is easy for Apple to say they don't sell personal info. Think different.

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Same privacy policy page says they use 1x1 jpgs (web beacons) to track your web visits in the web (cause users can disable cookies but not 1x1 jpgs easily)
 

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It's not better on "many levels".

Did you watch the video or did you simply post right away?

Siri answered (and in some cases gave more information) than GA.

GA is better at continuing the conversation but as I said, it's not better on many levels.

Now, go and watch the video.

Ain't that calling the kettle pot black....

Where is the irony in what you posted yesterday, reference Apple's security tethers, when a moderator indicated "Reading the article before you post" and you openly admitted you "Presumed" and didn't read the article when you posted.

Back on topic: Yes, I watched the video. Those were my initial first thoughts and if you would have read further down, you would have noticed I posted further comments to another forum member on my thoughts with Siri and Google Assistant in comparison.

Now, go back and take the time to read through the thread posts,before making ill-tempered statements.
 
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There's no comparison these 2 to begin with. Marques should have known this but obviously he just want the click bait to feed his Android fanboyism and fanatics. SIRI is not an AI nor Apple claims it to be. Clearly Google Assistant is better and it will keep getting better as it learns from the user. SIRI is just another machine that recognize your voice (just like typing & converted to binaries) and give answers on your query.
 
This comes across to me as though Marques uses Android as his daily phone and knows what to expect from it and hopes that Siri will give him the same result, and not the other way around. For example, he either doesn't know or purposefully omitted that you can ask Siri for "my pictures of cats" and she will show you your own pictures of cats, rather than generic pictures of cats.

He also persisted on asking a contextual follow up question when Siri clearly missed the original question. Of course she's not going to know the follow up. For the record, she understood the same exact question when I asked "How tall is Barack Obama" and unlimited follow ups like "where was he born", "how old is he", etc etc etc... Siri also understood "Mark Zuckerberg" the first time I asked.

I was impressed that Siri was consistently faster at answering questions than Google Assistant and I appreciated the presentation of the answers in a well designed card instead of the small busy copy in Google's responses.

Finally, another one of his criticisms was that Siri presents visual information rather than read it out. Again, his ignorance of iOS is showing. Siri will read information to you when she thinks that you're doing an activity where you're not looking at the screen. For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.

You should post this exact text in the comments in his video.
 
I was testing out Siri the other day with my coworkers in regards to being able to dictate notes. Boy did Siri fail horribly. We were particularly interested to see if Siri would add bullet points for each note, but we couldn't even get that far. After telling Siri "Take this note" and her responding "Ok, what would you like me to record?", any dictation I said after that would not work and Siri would return with "I'm sorry, I don't understand ....."

That being said, there are some places where Siri is much better, such as asking her to play music. On my S7 Edge, Google forgets my previous settings and plays a random station instead of shuffling my downloaded library.

These assistants both have long ways to go, so I won't say one excels over the other although I personally prefer Google by a slight margin.
 
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You'd think asking for tonight's TV listings for BBC One would be a simple thing?

Nah, click these tenuously related Wolfram Alpha links. FML.
 
This comes across to me as though Marques uses Android as his daily phone and knows what to expect from it and hopes that Siri will give him the same result, and not the other way around. For example, he either doesn't know or purposefully omitted that you can ask Siri for "my pictures of cats" and she will show you your own pictures of cats, rather than generic pictures of cats.

He also persisted on asking a contextual follow up question when Siri clearly missed the original question. Of course she's not going to know the follow up. For the record, she understood the same exact question when I asked "How tall is Barack Obama" and unlimited follow ups like "where was he born", "how old is he", etc etc etc... Siri also understood "Mark Zuckerberg" the first time I asked.

I was impressed that Siri was consistently faster at answering questions than Google Assistant and I appreciated the presentation of the answers in a well designed card instead of the small busy copy in Google's responses.

Finally, another one of his criticisms was that Siri presents visual information rather than read it out. Again, his ignorance of iOS is showing. Siri will read information to you when she thinks that you're doing an activity where you're not looking at the screen. For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.
Please do all of us a favour and send your post to Browlee - I'm tired of click bait videos when they clearly miss the shot
 
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Ain't that calling the kettle pot black....

Where is the irony in what you posted yesterday, reference Apple's security tethers, when a moderator indicated "Reading the article before you post" and you openly admitted you "Presumed" and didn't read the article when you posted.

Back on topic: Yes, I watched the video. Those were my initial first thoughts and if you would have read further down, you would have noticed I posted further comments to another forum member on my thoughts with Siri and Google Assistant in comparison.

Now, go back and take the time to read through the thread posts,before making ill-tempered statements.

Yeah. Right. Okay.

You just presumed GA was much better. It isn't. Get over it.
 
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This comes across to me as though Marques uses Android as his daily phone and knows what to expect from it and hopes that Siri will give him the same result, and not the other way around. For example, he either doesn't know or purposefully omitted that you can ask Siri for "my pictures of cats" and she will show you your own pictures of cats, rather than generic pictures of cats.

He also persisted on asking a contextual follow up question when Siri clearly missed the original question. Of course she's not going to know the follow up. For the record, she understood the same exact question when I asked "How tall is Barack Obama" and unlimited follow ups like "where was he born", "how old is he", etc etc etc... Siri also understood "Mark Zuckerberg" the first time I asked.

I was impressed that Siri was consistently faster at answering questions than Google Assistant and I appreciated the presentation of the answers in a well designed card instead of the small busy copy in Google's responses.

Finally, another one of his criticisms was that Siri presents visual information rather than read it out. Again, his ignorance of iOS is showing. Siri will read information to you when she thinks that you're doing an activity where you're not looking at the screen. For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.

Anyone who has used the various assistants in the US for more than just a couple of queries can tell you that Siri is not behind. They're all pretty dumb and frustrating to use at times.

I believe that's why the media can get away with the constant Siri bashing and spreading false claims about how far behind Siri is with no facts to back it up; because no Siri user will disagree about its shortcomings and most haven't used anything else to know that the other assistants aren't any better.
 
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Yeah. Right. Okay.

You just presumed GA was much better. It isn't. Get over it.

Both are good for certain simple tasks and both are frustrating at times. There is no difference between them other than Siri presenting info in a better way, not just a google search page.
 
Translation: "he was holding it wrong". Stop blaming the user. He was speaking to Siri. Normal response would be for Siri to speak back.

If someone doesn't want the phone to make noise like speaking back, they would have typed their search query.

No, I don't want Siri reading back a Wikipedia page. Marques himself said that that was annoying about Google.

It's about context. If I have my iPhone in my pocket and prompt Siri via my earphones mic button, then I'd like her to speak the response. If I press the Home button, then I have the iPhone in front of me and a basic audible reply with visual information presented on the screen is best. That's exactly what Siri does.

When I have my iPhone docked on my bedside table, I prompt her with Hey Siri and I get full audible responses about the weather, my appointments, alarms, the state of my HomeKit devices, etc.

When I'm in the car, Siri knows this whether or not the car is CarPlay enabled, and Siri requests are always spoken.

Marques either didn't know this or he purposefully left it out when he said that Siri doesn't read responses (contradicting his earlier point that it was annoying on Google).

You should post this exact text in the comments in his video.

Please do all of us a favour and send your post to Browlee - I'm tired of click bait videos when they clearly miss the shot

Done and done.
 
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Google demographic data that in no way identifies you, sold as demographic data

As apposed to everything you say to Siri in your voice ....but assigned a random indentifier....cause your voice is not potentially unique.

You do realise that Siri will capture anything you say, so if you accidentally trigger Siri and say something personal you don't want anyone to know, that is being stored by apple for 2 years as a voice file. Just cause Siri does not give you an answer it does not mean it's not recorded it for processing.

So which is worse , google tracking that 34% of people in Shepherd's Bush searched for X brand of pancakes on Friday or Siri capturing in your voice that you like to smear pancakes on my body (as a joke)

Would you prefer to be an anonymous sample of that 34% or your voice recording stored for 2 years..... I know which is a breech of my privacy.

The reality here is both google and apple are as bad as each over. Privacy is not who you sell data to....its what you collect, your privacy is breached at the collection point.

Though the above is just to illustrate ananymous demographic data v unique individual collection of data , your voice, I assume google assistant is just as bad in capturing your voice data.

That's a reasonable observation. However, you're only focus on Siri and google assistant. My gripe for google is they collect and sell data on EVERY aspect of their service. Not just voice. They really don't care about the user privacy while Apple does, though not 100% but they do care about user privacy in most cases. They even go so far as fighting back the FBI to protect the user. I can't say the same for google.
 
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This comes across to me as though Marques uses Android as his daily phone and knows what to expect from it and hopes that Siri will give him the same result, and not the other way around. For example, he either doesn't know or purposefully omitted that you can ask Siri for "my pictures of cats" and she will show you your own pictures of cats, rather than generic pictures of cats.

He also persisted on asking a contextual follow up question when Siri clearly missed the original question. Of course she's not going to know the follow up. For the record, she understood the same exact question when I asked "How tall is Barack Obama" and unlimited follow ups like "where was he born", "how old is he", etc etc etc... Siri also understood "Mark Zuckerberg" the first time I asked.

I was impressed that Siri was consistently faster at answering questions than Google Assistant and I appreciated the presentation of the answers in a well designed card instead of the small busy copy in Google's responses.

Finally, another one of his criticisms was that Siri presents visual information rather than read it out. Again, his ignorance of iOS is showing. Siri will read information to you when she thinks that you're doing an activity where you're not looking at the screen. For example, when summoning Siri with "Hey Siri", she will read you the answer. If you call her up by pressing the headphone mic button, she'll present information audibly. But when you're pressing the home button to bring up Siri, she correctly assumes that you have the iPhone in front of you and gives you visual information.

Either Brownlee is showing favouritism in his comparisons or he needs to learn more about iOS if he wants to remain credible.
No offense, but you sound like a huge fanboy who can't accept that Google is way ahead in AI.
 
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