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Maybe they can add an option of storing offline capabilities and commands after learning what you want to do. My biggest gripe with Siri for iOS is that no matter what you ask it, it will always bounce the commands off the server. And iPhones before the 4S could do basic functions like 'call so-and-so' locally, so it's not like it's a stretch of the imagination to add that functionality.
 
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Let me be the first to say, the easier the input method on the device, the less value I see for Siri.

AppleTV = most difficult for input = Best for Siri
iOS devices = modest input difficulty/speed = Good for Siri
Mac = easiest/fastest input via keyboard and mouse = less than ideal for Siri.

I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.
It would be useful for running user-written automation scripts.
 
The OS X menu bars lately look more cluttered than my grandpa's Windows XP taskbar on his installation that hasn't been reformatted in over 10 years.

I think the UI up there needs some fresh thinking and redesign. Every new feature cannot just be "let's add another icon!"
They could just copy a classic windows technique for it: use a drop down menu for the less used menu items w a drop down menu item. There are already third party apps that do it.
 
Very much enjoying Cortana on my phone and my laptop. Lets see how Siri will compare on my desktop.
 
I hope she gets a lot better, after recently getting an Amazon Echo and using Alexa, plus Google's voice recognition, Siri becomes very frustrating to use. My fear is they committed so early that now they're locked into an antiquated voice recognition system... hopefully they'll catch up soon.
 
i really want the ability to remove spotlight and NC from the menu bar.
Why spotlight? I find being able to search for anything on my Mac in one spot including PDFs that have a word in the text including on a map. I no longer fret over remembering what folder the folder I put that file is embedded in.
 
When my iPhone 6s is on the desk next to my MacBook, will Siri activate on both devices? And will she not understand me on both devices?

So many questions.
If my iPad Pro is plugged in and my phone is near by she I say hay Siri it activates on both devices. Sometimes if I'm in another room and attempt to use Siri on my watch (to set a timer or something) my iPhone will hear me and activate the timer on my phone too. Kind of annoying but not sure how to avoid it.
 
the problem with current siri is the activation and the devices minus the watch not being aware of the other devices, so they all activate siri if they hear you.
 
Let me be the first to say, the easier the input method on the device, the less value I see for Siri.

AppleTV = most difficult for input = Best for Siri
iOS devices = modest input difficulty/speed = Good for Siri
Mac = easiest/fastest input via keyboard and mouse = less than ideal for Siri.

I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.

A major factor you're leaving off, I think, is whether you use the device in public or privately.

I mostly use my iOS device in public, whereas I mostly use my Mac privately. I rarely use Siri on my iPhone, because I don't want everyone around me to hear what's going on. I can see myself using Siri on my Mac more, because I'm in private.
 
My coworkers are going to hate me now, haha. Seriously though, this is interesting. I could see people rigging up microphones around their house to use "Hey Siri" anywhere, much like Amazon's Alexa if it supports Siri handsfree mode where she reads things out and asks for confirmation.

Otherwise 10.12 mainly needs bug fixes and performance improvements. I have a lot of issues with continuity in text messages and phone calls. I can't think of many features—mostly they need to tie up loose ends. Maybe a fully integrated clipboard manager? But "Paste" works pretty well for that. Better management of menu bar icons? But "Bartender" works well for that. However they've never been afraid to fully implement third-party solutions, such as Growl or f.lux. Maybe they could fully flesh out that dark mode? They could also introduce that overhauled version of iTunes. Mail could also use some improvements to make it more productive.
 
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I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.
Agree with you 100%. Whenever I ask siri a question on my iPhone, she takes longer to give me an answer than it would have for me to just unlock my phone and... say... check the weather myself.
 
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Let me be the first to say, the easier the input method on the device, the less value I see for Siri.

AppleTV = most difficult for input = Best for Siri
iOS devices = modest input difficulty/speed = Good for Siri
Mac = easiest/fastest input via keyboard and mouse = less than ideal for Siri.

I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.

Absolutely.
 
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Let me be the first to say, the easier the input method on the device, the less value I see for Siri.

AppleTV = most difficult for input = Best for Siri
iOS devices = modest input difficulty/speed = Good for Siri
Mac = easiest/fastest input via keyboard and mouse = less than ideal for Siri.

I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.

Presumably, the point is that Siri could do things while you're doing something else (after all, we don't have to dictate the thing we're already doing). Personally, I would find that extremely useful.
 
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Let me be the first to say, the easier the input method on the device, the less value I see for Siri.

AppleTV = most difficult for input = Best for Siri
iOS devices = modest input difficulty/speed = Good for Siri
Mac = easiest/fastest input via keyboard and mouse = less than ideal for Siri.

I'm not sure I see myself waiting on Siri, which takes forever most of the time, instead of just doing it. I'm already seated with my hands on the keys. It just doesn't fit with the application for Siri.

It would be good for simple things like "play X song", "remind me to..."
 
Why spotlight? I find being able to search for anything on my Mac in one spot including PDFs that have a word in the text including on a map. I no longer fret over remembering what folder the folder I put that file is embedded in.
Because spotlight can be quickly activated by using Command+Space so the icon is unnecessary.
 
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