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i think siri is tired of all kinds of harassments from us :D my friend jsut keep XXX siri after they got hte 4S:D
 
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I don't know why people expect it to be perfect right away, how many people do you think actually tested Siri in apple, Id wager that it's on the order of 1-2k tops, now it's 1-2 million in a week, plus more when delivered.... Get real people...it says BETA!

I think you have a misconception of what people want... No one asked for perfection, people just want it to work. Considering thats one of the major selling points, I don't think its an unreasonable request.
 
did this really warrant a thread? so it's down. big deal. it's been down before and it'll be down again. are we going to make threads every time Siri is down?
just restart your phone or fiddle with your network settings and voila. if it still doesn't work, go outside and talk to actual human beings for a while instead of making a thread about it.
 
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Turn wifi off and then on again. This corrected the problem immediately for me. Another possibility: if you're on AT&T microcell, try disabling that. The microcell wasn't the problem in my case. However, it's important when troubleshooting to peel everything back to 3G and tested over the AT&T 3G network directly, because there could be some issues occasionally with determining location on the network for the purpose of location services. Right now I'm using dictation and other functions perfectly after disabling and re-enabling Wi-Fi.
 
"Beta" is no Excuse IMO. They are promoting it worldwide as its "main" feature, and if Siri was not ready for use, Apple shouldn't have distributed the service with the phone in the first place. Come on, this is iOS not Android.

To me, "Beta" is only an excuse. I like my 4S though but get real people.
 
"Beta" is no Excuse IMO. They are promoting it worldwide as its "main" feature, and if Siri was not ready for use, Apple shouldn't have distributed the service with the phone in the first place. Come on, this is iOS not Android.

To me, "Beta" is only an excuse. I like my 4S though but get real people.

*sigh* I wish there were a feature that would push solution recommendations to the top of a thread...turn wifi off and on again. That's worked for me just fine when there isn't a known outage on Siri's servers itself. Granted, this is an issue that should be resolved but try working for a company with 50 million customers (like me)... you'll find yourself constantly fixing flat tires while the wheels are in motion, just by way of statistical probability.

iPhone is a mobile computing platform that users expect to perform as a full blown laptop would in a form factor much smaller. that's a tall order, and I'm glad that Apple keeps pushing to do that.

"Beta" is not an excuse... "Beta" is a reality of software engineering. OS X was released as a public beta, and it was terribly slow and had many bugs. But it paved the way for an entirely new OS that people now find indispensable on Macs.

I understand where you're coming from. I spent $399 + tax on a 64GB iPhone 4S... I expect it to work properly. But I also work for a software company and I knew going in that there'd be kinks... unless you're totally new to computing devices (and the world in general) I would presume you have at least some awareness of what it's like to rush out and buy every new product before waiting for the kinks to be worked out. It never happens any differently... so you've got two choices: 1) be impatient, get the device and know the risks, or 2) wait for the bugs to get fixed and then get the device.

Many companies release products without any "beta" caveat ... believing them to be fully ready for the market, and they turn out to be crap, and they STILL sell them. Verizon does this all the time... or did, before iPhone. They knew the Voyager wasn't even remotely comparable, so they tried to make up for it with a massive FUD campaign through marketing. Not gonna work.

If you can find a device that does everything the iPhone does, has as much storage, as much battery life, in as easy to use and as intuitive a user interface and industrial design... then I strongly urge you to return your 4S and go buy that device.

Oh, and if you can find me an online store other than iTunes with better global load balancing and uptime than iTunes, I say go for it... I mean that sincerely, not smugly.

That's not me trying to shoot down your argument, that's me taking your side for a second... but I surmise you knew the risks and now you're upset and it's only been about a week. And you're telling everyone else to "get real"?

If there's a better solution, I say use it.
 
....A quick check shows that the Siri server is named guzzoni.apple.com....
Nice find. "Didier Guzzoni" is listed as one of the inventors of Siri.

http://www.wipo.int/patentscope/search/en/WO2011088053

Looks like Apple is using Akamai edge servers with Siri, which makes a lot of sense. Geographic distribution and all that. Akamai has an amazing infrastructure. Makes me wonder why the service has connectivity issues.

Hopefully Apple's aware, but there's always that feedback form for those who want to make sure.
 
*sigh* I wish there were a feature that would push solution recommendations to the top of a thread...turn wifi off and on again. That's worked for me just fine when there isn't a known outage on Siri's servers itself. Granted, this is an issue that should be resolved but try working for a company with 50 million customers (like me)... you'll find yourself constantly fixing flat tires while the wheels are in motion, just by way of statistical probability.

iPhone is a mobile computing platform that users expect to perform as a full blown laptop would in a form factor much smaller. that's a tall order, and I'm glad that Apple keeps pushing to do that.

"Beta" is not an excuse... "Beta" is a reality of software engineering. OS X was released as a public beta, and it was terribly slow and had many bugs. But it paved the way for an entirely new OS that people now find indispensable on Macs.

I understand where you're coming from. I spent $399 + tax on a 64GB iPhone 4S... I expect it to work properly. But I also work for a software company and I knew going in that there'd be kinks... unless you're totally new to computing devices (and the world in general) I would presume you have at least some awareness of what it's like to rush out and buy every new product before waiting for the kinks to be worked out. It never happens any differently... so you've got two choices: 1) be impatient, get the device and know the risks, or 2) wait for the bugs to get fixed and then get the device.

Many companies release products without any "beta" caveat ... believing them to be fully ready for the market, and they turn out to be crap, and they STILL sell them. Verizon does this all the time... or did, before iPhone. They knew the Voyager wasn't even remotely comparable, so they tried to make up for it with a massive FUD campaign through marketing. Not gonna work.

If you can find a device that does everything the iPhone does, has as much storage, as much battery life, in as easy to use and as intuitive a user interface and industrial design... then I strongly urge you to return your 4S and go buy that device.

Oh, and if you can find me an online store other than iTunes with better global load balancing and uptime than iTunes, I say go for it... I mean that sincerely, not smugly.

That's not me trying to shoot down your argument, that's me taking your side for a second... but I surmise you knew the risks and now you're upset and it's only been about a week. And you're telling everyone else to "get real"?

If there's a better solution, I say use it.

I agree with the guy. Trying to spin this to say that early adopters knew what they were getting so should just blindly accept all the flaws without getting annoyed is pretty weak. I also work for a software company and of course we deal with bugs and issues all the time. But I'd be embarrassed to tell my customers they should have know what the were getting...
 
I agree with the guy. Trying to spin this to say that early adopters knew what they were getting so should just blindly accept all the flaws without getting annoyed is pretty weak. I also work for a software company and of course we deal with bugs and issues all the time. But I'd be embarrassed to tell my customers they should have know what the were getting...

I think you're misinterpreting me. I am not taking Apple's position and defending the product. They wouldn't, and they aren't. They tend to keep quiet and just focus on fixing the bugs as quickly as possible... Many other companies do their own internal spin. Should they acknowledge the problem? Well, this is tricky... because how can you acknowledge a problem and set an SLA when you haven't identified the root cause yet? You'd be doing bad business and pissing off even more customers in the end.

I'm not an Apple employee spinning on the company's behalf. I'm just an outsider who is often a first adopter, and I'm well aware that this happens again and again.

I'm just saying that that reality of first adoption is what it is and nothing's going to change it. I was also saying it's important for Apple to hear these concerns so they understand the problem and work to fix it... and they do, more so than almost any company including mine. But, in the meantime, it's your wallet you have control over and you know that devices are going to be released with bugs... So what are your options, realistically, before and after you've voiced your concerns?

And finally: turn wifi off and on again. That fixed my issue.
 
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