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Tapiture

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Asking Siri to spell a word in iOS 11 Beta results in a choppy and extremely unnatural enunciation of the letters, unlike the previous version of iOS where Siri was able to spell words in an organic and natural manner.
 
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campyguy

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Asking Siri to spell a word in iOS 11 results in a choppy and extremely unnatural annunciation of the letters, unlike the previous version of iOS where Siri was able to spell words in an organic and natural manner.
First, it's "enunciation" - picking that nit. No issues on my end with iOS 10 or iOS 11, tech writer chiming in here. I have zero issues with transcription via iOS 11B1.

Second, read my post from a couple of days ago. I have no issues with my dictation - I use my iPhones and iPad every day, several times each day, to transcribe text. Before you get angry or defensive, read the following - I adapted my workflow (the transcription I alluded to was performed with iOS 11B1):
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...siri-development.2049636/page-3#post-24665268
 

Tapiture

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First, it's "enunciation" - picking that nit. No issues on my end with iOS 10 or iOS 11, tech writer chiming in here. I have zero issues with transcription via iOS 11B1.

Second, read my post from a couple of days ago. I have no issues with my dictation - I use my iPhones and iPad every day, several times each day, to transcribe text. Before you get angry or defensive, read the following - I adapted my workflow (the transcription I alluded to was performed with iOS 11B1):
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...siri-development.2049636/page-3#post-24665268
Thanks for correcting my spelling, I updated it to save myself from future embarrassment :p. Also I think you've misunderstood the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you hold down the home button or otherwise activate Siri and ask him/her to spell a word. For instance "Hey Siri, spell 'ridiculous.'" This is not an issue with transcription or dictation.
 
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Feenician

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Yes, it sounds a bit stilted OP. I can't say I'd ever tried it on 10 to compare though.
 

Tapiture

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* ridiculous
You can see why I use this feature :p
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Yes, it sounds a bit stilted OP. I can't say I'd ever tried it on 10 to compare though.
My iPad is on 11 and my iPhone is on 10 and I can confirm there is a significant difference. I'd like to post a video of me trying it on both but I don't have any other device I could use to film it.
 

Feenician

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You can see why I use this feature :p
[doublepost=1497393742][/doublepost]
My iPad is on 11 and my iPhone is on 10 and I can confirm there is a significant difference. I'd like to post a video of me trying it on both but I don't have any other device I could use to film it.


O eye beleef ewe ;)

Like keys said, submitting a bug report is probably the most positive thing you can do.
 

Tapiture

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O eye beleef ewe ;)

Like keys said, submitting a bug report is probably the most positive thing you can do.
I don’t know of any way to submit a bug report in this phase of the beta. Anyone know how to do it other than waiting until the public beta?
 

kmj2318

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I just tried ridiculous. I guess the issue is that she says every word in the same way. A person would have a varied flow in how they pronounce. Siri says it like she’s mocking you lol.
 
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campyguy

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Thanks for correcting my spelling, I updated it to save myself from future embarrassment :p. Also I think you've misunderstood the issue I'm talking about. I'm talking about when you hold down the home button or otherwise activate Siri and ask him/her to spell a word. For instance "Hey Siri, spell 'ridiculous.'" This is not an issue with transcription or dictation.
No worries on the spelling bit, life is too short to get picky on this stuff.

OTOH, do re-read my linked-to post. I used to have problems with Siri and dictation with my iPhones, as I'd alluded to in that post. In that vein, I don't know what device you're using - I dictate, carefully, into the microphone port on the back of my iPhone or iPad and find significantly better results, every single time. That mic port is used for noise-cancellation in iOS, according to Apple (I don't have time to cite this); FWIW, I dictated this entry with my iPhone 6S (ATTWS, over cellular).

To be fair, I have earned that tech writing degree to go with 3 engineering degrees, and work with peers from around the world - I am careful with my diction and enunciation. OTOH, in '97 I was on a hovercraft between Belfast and Glasgow and, after a couple of beers, found myself in a WC between two Scots in the midst of a conversation about football - I couldn't understand a word they were saying, and I don't know if it was my state of inebriation or the Scottish language (my Mandarin, Arabic, and Farsi are better than my Scottish!). IOW, read my linked-to post and try again - I dictated a 2-page memo just today in 30-second sections and it came out perfect, without need for edits.
 

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No worries on the spelling bit, life is too short to get picky on this stuff.

OTOH, do re-read my linked-to post. I used to have problems with Siri and dictation with my iPhones, as I'd alluded to in that post. In that vein, I don't know what device you're using - I dictate, carefully, into the microphone port on the back of my iPhone or iPad and find significantly better results, every single time. That mic port is used for noise-cancellation in iOS, according to Apple (I don't have time to cite this); FWIW, I dictated this entry with my iPhone 6S (ATTWS, over cellular).

To be fair, I have earned that tech writing degree to go with 3 engineering degrees, and work with peers from around the world - I am careful with my diction and enunciation. OTOH, in '97 I was on a hovercraft between Belfast and Glasgow and, after a couple of beers, found myself in a WC between two Scots in the midst of a conversation about football - I couldn't understand a word they were saying, and I don't know if it was my state of inebriation or the Scottish language (my Mandarin, Arabic, and Farsi are better than my Scottish!). IOW, read my linked-to post and try again - I dictated a 2-page memo just today in 30-second sections and it came out perfect, without need for edits.
Wow. For a tech writer, you sure seem to be having trouble with reading comprehension. The OP isn't talking about speech recognition at all. The OP is talking about how Siri enunciates the letters when spelling out words.
 
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Tapiture

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Engineering replied to my bug report asking for Siri logs and a diagnostic so I provided that. Seems like they're going to fix the issue.
 
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