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Siri for Pre-iPhone 4S Jailbroken iPhones Available, but It Remains Complicated
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I wonder if you apply the same logic to the things that you own.
Apple doesn't have an obligation to make Siri available to anyone that wants it.
I wonder if you apply the same logic to the things that you own.
A fair point. Anyone who has used Apple products for a while now should not expect to be able to get the latest software features without the latest hardware, even though your hardware is more than capable of it (iCloud and the Mac App Store is another example, I feel Leopard or even Tiger users should be able to use it).
I wasn't trying to justify stealing what is essentially software that has to be purchased. I was just stating that it is understandable that people do it, when Apple make such consumer hostile decisions such as restricting Siri to the 4S and iCloud to Lion. Apple have no right to complain when people pirate Siri instead of buying a 4S, especially when they have demonstrated why consumers pirate in the first place.
So Sony got it wrong when they did not release software to make Madden 2012 work for my original Playstation? The product is not clearly at fault in either of these. The product evolved just as the software evolved. So the user can choose to move up in products, if not stay on the one you have.
I was really excited about this until I found out how absurd the whole thing is. Sure, I have an iPhone 4S just lying around that I don't use at all, but I really want to enable Siri on my iPhone 4... /sarcasm
It's too bad that Siri isn't available for the iPhone 4, but you know what? I wanted to buy one-- really did!--and couldn't. AT&T wouldn't allow me to upgrade and sign another contract with them, even though it's cheaper for me to move to Sprint, stop paying AT&T altogether, and get the phone I want. I told them that, and they didn't seem to care. Awesome...
Someone wake me up when we get Siri figured out?
It's too bad that Siri isn't available for the iPhone 4, but you know what? I wanted to buy one-- really did!--and couldn't. AT&T wouldn't allow me to upgrade and sign another contract with them, even though it's cheaper for me to move to Sprint, stop paying AT&T altogether, and get the phone I want. I told them that, and they didn't seem to care. Awesome...
Someone wake me up when we get Siri figured out?
That is taking what I said to the extreme a bit don't you think? There is a cutoff point. 3-4 years maybe. One year, people are going to get upset.
If Time = Money, then it's less expensive to buy an iPhone 4S than spending all that time and effort trying to make it work on an old phone.
But it's good to know there are qualified people who researched this possibility to the point of making it available.
But it's good to know there are qualified people who researched this possibility to the point of making it available.
Siri on iPad
Will make a donation to a dev that cracks it.
Will make a sizable donation to Nuance with a letter of thanks.
and a letter of wtf to apple
Will make a donation to a dev that cracks it.
Will make a sizable donation to Nuance with a letter of thanks.
and a letter of wtf to apple
So by your idiotic logic, if someone steals a car, it's not because they don't want to pay for it, it's simply because the company making the car did something wrong.
It's not just Apple products. It's all technology, and that's how it works. In fact, that's how the world works. Old things go away, new things replace them.
You seem to have the idea that Apple owes you something. They don't. They released new products and gave them new features. If you want the new features, buy the new products.
And, if you don't like how the entire world works, that's just too damn bad. Because you sitting and bitching about how it should be fair to steal because you can't get something new isn't going to change anything, aside from people's opinions of you.
By your logic, I assume you'd "understand" if I came and broke down your door (it's ok - you shut it in a way I deemed was "wrong"), walked into your house, and took your TV. Your TV is newer than mine, so by your logic, it's fair for me to have it.
Just think about that for a moment, because that's exactly what you're arguing for.
lol at all the people who have to use some butt**** backwards method because they can't afford a 4S. Bet you all have wanted a 4S, Siri, better camera on your iPhone and don't worry about it unless you see someone who has something you don't. Hypocrites.
Now we're getting to the heart of the matter.
This has nothing to do with Apple, and everything to do with people who feel they can get away with it.
I've never downloaded illegal music, movies, games, or a piece of software... If I want something, I pay for it.
What's wrong with you people?
To all those saying-
If you have to have an iPhone 4S what's the point?!?
The point is -
For a lot of people (like me) Every time I've gotten a new iPhone, someone else in my family would be getting an upgrade as well (My old phone)
I got a 3gs, when the 4 came out, I gave the 3gs to my mom, and when the 4s came out, I gave my 4 to my dad. So now, I can give them both access to siri. This is the legal grey-area here.
I also have a 64gb iPT 4, which I can now put siri on.
Superb.
If you have to have an iPhone 4S what's the point?!?
The point is -
For a lot of people (like me) Every time I've gotten a new iPhone, someone else in my family would be getting an upgrade as well (My old phone)
I got a 3gs, when the 4 came out, I gave the 3gs to my mom, and when the 4s came out, I gave my 4 to my dad. So now, I can give them both access to siri. This is the legal grey-area here.
I also have a 64gb iPT 4, which I can now put siri on.
Superb.
Doesn't matter, once the software in on YOUR device you can do what you want with it. If i buy a car can the car manufacture tell me i can't get new wheels? No, Once it is on my computer i can do what i want with it.
Well, if the copyright holder says this software is only for a certain device, and then you hack it to make it work on another device - EVEN IF THE MANUFACTURER HAS A DOWNLOAD FOR FREE- you're still in violation of copyright.
I know, it sucks. And no one will catch you. But do you want that on your conscience?
No. You only have a license to use the software. There are terms and conditions of use attached to that license.
Please leave the car analogies where they belong: cars.
I'm having trouble understanding this. I have a 4S and a 4. The 4 is jailbroken and Spire has been downloaded, etc.
Is it not as simple as creating a proxy address on the 4s and adding it to Spire on the 4? I've tried doing this through Settings, VPN, etc. but I'm not able to click SAVE on the 4S to create the proxy.
Any input would be appreciated.
Is it not as simple as creating a proxy address on the 4s and adding it to Spire on the 4? I've tried doing this through Settings, VPN, etc. but I'm not able to click SAVE on the 4S to create the proxy.
Any input would be appreciated.
Like I said before, you need to have a basic understanding of copyright law. You apparently do not.
There isn't actually a gray area here.