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If you have to have an iPhone 4S what's the point?!?

The point is -
For a lot of people (like me) Every time I've gotten a new iPhone, someone else in my family would be getting an upgrade as well (My old phone)

I got a 3gs, when the 4 came out, I gave the 3gs to my mom, and when the 4s came out, I gave my 4 to my dad. So now, I can give them both access to siri. This is the legal grey-area here.


I also have a 64gb iPT 4, which I can now put siri on.

Superb.

So Apple is required to accommodate your particular "family upgrade tradition", a circumstance which automatically posits a "legal grey area" when Apple aren't required (and don't) do that? :confused:

Self-entitlment writ large.
 
Anyone who goes to this much effort just to have Siri on a non-4S is just plain retarded.

Go buy a frickin' 4S cheapskate.
 
"could care less"

Especially considering that the majority of users can care less about legality issues, so it's irrelevant IMO.

True, but seriously... Who honestly cares about that sort of thing? The people just want the stuff and can care less as to the legality of it all.

Funny thing all this work aroun and what not. I have Siri and I could care less about it right now. Maybe after a few more iOS updates it would be worth something but I have never really used it other than to toy around when bored or drunk is fun too.

Is this "could care less" thing an in joke I'm not privy to, or do you guys genuinely not realise you're saying the exact opposite of what you mean? Apologies if I come access as something of a pedantic little bugger, although given the complete dichotomy between the words and their intended meaning I think calling it pedantic is pushing it somewhat.
 
Is this "could care less" thing an in joke I'm not privy to, or do you guys genuinely not realise you're saying the exact opposite of what you mean? Apologies if I come access as something of a pedantic little bugger, although given the complete dichotomy between the words and their intended meaning I think calling it pedantic is pushing it somewhat.

Oh I hate that too.

Very much.

It seems they care....from 1 to 100 ,...who knows. They might even care a lot!

After all, ..they COULD care less.

Who is to say that they are not very caring people and not illiterate parrots:rolleyes:
 
Is this "could care less" thing an in joke I'm not privy to, or do you guys genuinely not realise you're saying the exact opposite of what you mean? Apologies if I come access as something of a pedantic little bugger, although given the complete dichotomy between the words and their intended meaning I think calling it pedantic is pushing it somewhat.

Heheheheh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om7O0MFkmpw
 
meh Siri is boring as it is, i played around with is the first day i got my 4S but thats about it. it doesnt even understand half the names i'm saying and has a general problem with words that include a "ck"

i hope a future update allowes us to do stuff like "turn off wifi" etc.

another problem is that once i turn siri to german it doesnt understand english song names for the ipod feature and comes up with all kind of random german words
 
In fact, that's how the world works. Old things go away, new things replace them.

You seem to have the idea that Apple owes you something. They don't. They released new products and gave them new features. If you want the new features, buy the new products.
And, if you don't like how the entire world works, that's just too damn bad. Because you sitting and bitching about how it should be fair to steal because you can't get something new isn't going to change anything, aside from people's opinions of you.

By your logic, I assume you'd "understand" if I came and broke down your door (it's ok - you shut it in a way I deemed was "wrong"), walked into your house, and took your TV. Your TV is newer than mine, so by your logic, it's fair for me to have it.
Just think about that for a moment, because that's exactly what you're arguing for. :rolleyes:

i wish someone would argue this point to "occupy whatever"
 
Anyone who goes to this much effort just to have Siri on a non-4S is just plain retarded.

Go buy a frickin' 4S cheapskate.

What would you rather do? Buy a 4S for £600+ or spend an hour or so following some online instructions and get it for free?

Well, I know which one I've done. Works a treat. £600+ can be spent on something more constructive.
 
So Sony got it wrong when they did not release software to make Madden 2012 work for my original Playstation? The product is not clearly at fault in either of these. The product evolved just as the software evolved. So the user can choose to move up in products, if not stay on the one you have.

Using Sony as another example, remember this:
A couple years ago Sony removed the OtherOS feature from the PS3. This was done on systems that were sold with the capability to run Linux using said feature. They also removed hardware-based backward compatibility on newer models, which isn't that big of a deal except for the fact that they also removed software-based backward compatibility. Also no big deal, except for the fact that after people had sold their PS2 systems to get a PS3 that at one time could play PS2 games, then after a software update couldn't, just to sell a few more PS2 systems before giving it a late retirement... That kind of thing pisses people off, especially nerds. Take things away, and they get hacked back.
Why is this comparable to Apple? Remember Siri before the 4S? The standalone app? Is it so hard for that app to keep working after the 4S was released? I mean Apple can do what they want, but to give a feature to take it away just so people would make a hardware upgrade? At least give old-model iPhone users a watered-down version of Siri that is making the 4S a worthwhile upgrade.

Which reminds me... Any other Jailbreakers/Unlockers miss Geohot right about now?
 
Okay kids, as ridiculous as I think it is that Apple has locked Siri onto the 4S... consider this scenario:

I'm writing a book. I leave the pages of said book on the counter inside my unlocked house. You wander into my house, photo-copy the pages of my book, and leave. Legal? No.

Some other guy is giving out free maps of the inside of my house, showing where the book is, where the photocopier is, and how to use it. Legal? Well, technically, yes. However, he probably would've had to trespass himself in order to make said map. So...

And for the record, let me say that I agree with the guy who said that the reason people are trying to pirate it is because Apple did something wrong. I believe that most people have a functioning basic compass of justice and ethics. They know when something doens't feel right. That, of course doesn't justify theft.

The truth of the matter remains that companies abuse copyright, and Apple is no exception. I don't think any reasonable person would say that copyright should be outright eliminated, but it certainly could stand to be "reformed." There's a happy medium between stifling innovation (refusal to create) and stifling innovation (I.P./content hoarding)... and we are nowhere near the middle.

-Clive
 
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