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Siri Interface May Move to Dynamic Island on Newer iPhones Running iOS 17

Mr_Ed said:
I still find that whole island thing baffling.

I would gladly trade an additional 3mm of top bezel for camera/sensors for this nonsense in the middle of the screen, and all the complexity over what to do with it or developers having to account for it at all.
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I’m not sure what you mean by developers “having to account for” the Dynamic Island. Apple’s not forcing anyone to implement Live Activities to my knowledge, so I can only guess that you’re referring to developers needing to account for the slightly taller status bar corresponding to the Dynamic Island.

That’s…not a thing unless they’re not using Auto Layout, which Apple has encouraged (and later required) developers to use for over a decade now. They don’t have to “account for” anything in the status bar, just like most apps didn’t need to account for the notch on the iPhone X. iOS did it for them.
 
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How it appears on the phone is acceptable, but can we keep it from completely taking over my car's display when connected to CarPlay? When you invoke Siri to send a text, it consumes the entire screen, it is just stupid, especially if you are in the middle of navigation. Fix it, Apple!
 
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ifxf said:
The only reason I enable Siri is that may car requires it for Car Play.
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Google Assistant is required just the same for Android Auto… the big difference though is that I can set Google Assistant to only be on when Android Auto is on, the rest of the time its off. Apple yet again forces people into things they don't want/care for.
 
jonblatho said:
I’m not sure what you mean by developers “having to account for” the Dynamic Island. Apple’s not forcing anyone to implement Live Activities to my knowledge, so I can only guess that you’re referring to developers needing to account for the slightly taller status bar corresponding to the Dynamic Island.

That’s…not a thing unless they’re not using Auto Layout, which Apple has encouraged (and later required) developers to use for over a decade now. They don’t have to “account for” anything in the status bar, just like most apps didn’t need to account for the notch on the iPhone X. iOS did it for them.
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I’ll give you devs may not have much of a burden these days if the API does the layout. I honestly have not looked at any iOS APIs in years and I should have known they would lighten the load for developers.

But Apple is then having to implement the additional complexity of having a non-functional area inside the display. If the camera hardware was above the display like it used to be, you just have a simple contiguous display to deal with. It would not make the phone significantly larger either, especially when you consider they still have a fairly useless looking strip of pixels above the island and the status bar area looks fat, presumably due to the “island”. I just don’t see the island functionally adding anything of value.
 
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I’ve only ever used Siri for 3 things, as I found everything else to which it responds to be just crap:

1. Playing music playlists in the car.
2. Telling it to get me directions to somewhere.
3. Placing a phone call to somebody in my contacts.

I commonly have issues with 2 of those:

1. Playlists: I give it the clear name of the playlist, and it plays some completely unrelated song on Apple Music instead. My kid thinks it’s hilarious. I roll my eyes, and he LOL’s.
2. Directions: I ask it for directions to something, and Siri will respond that it can’t give directions while my phone is locked, and I need to unlock it first. This has started happening in the last 7 or 8 months, and is pretty annoying. It’s gotten to the point that now I just plot my route with Waze before I start driving. It’s a nicer CarPlay experience than Apple Maps anyway.
 
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stevemiller said:
where the ugly siri blob shows up is less important to me than "hmm. i seem to have run into a problem. maybe try again later." or "i don't see person x in your phonebook, would you like to call [exact same name] instead?"
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I've noticed more west-coast PC things making it's way in to Siri. Case in point, Siri doesn't know who my wife is, but Siri knows who my spouse is. 🙄

bLackjackj said:
Wrong, the floating notch will go away once the under screen camera comes to the pro series.
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You will still need an area for all the live updates and such. Now that they have that functionality I don't see it going away even when the physical notch is no longer there.
 
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Siri will not get any smarter moving her to an island.

Buying or licensing ChatGTP will.
 
I wanted to love Siri. I tried very hard. I fought with naysayers constantly trying to change their minds about this wonderful technology that will free our hands, deliver the right info and insights at the whim of my imagination. I fantasized that I will no longer need to type on keyboards (both physical and on screen), just talk. I patiently waited for 4, 5, 8, 10 years. And now... there it is... still the same crappy performance. I realize AI is hard. Just ask Elon about Tesla self-autonomous driving. And yet, what I want from Siri is not even 1% of what we want from self-driving cars. I don't even want to mention GPT-4, OpenAI, etc. It feels like Apple has completely messed up a wonderful opportunity and instead created an incapable monster that most of us hate and avoid to use.
 
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I find the annoying thing is not being able to interact with your phone with the Siri interface up, or it goes away. Maybe moving it to the DI will address this? But I also want it to not go away until dismissed on every phone.
 
I'm skeptical. Sure, Apple could move it there, but it's hard to see how a Siri interface designed around the dead spots in the dynamic island could be useful. Maybe Apple will come up with something…

I hope they leave the fullscreen option though.
 
duervo said:
I’ve only ever used Siri for 3 things, as I found everything else to which it responds to be just crap:

1. Playing music playlists in the car.
2. Telling it to get me directions to somewhere.
3. Placing a phone call to somebody in my contacts.

I commonly have issues with 2 of those:

1. Playlists: I give it the clear name of the playlist, and it plays some completely unrelated song on Apple Music instead. My kid thinks it’s hilarious. I roll my eyes, and he LOL’s.
2. Directions: I ask it for directions to something, and Siri will respond that it can’t give directions while my phone is locked, and I need to unlock it first. This has started happening in the last 7 or 8 months, and is pretty annoying. It’s gotten to the point that now I just plot my route with Waze before I start driving. It’s a nicer CarPlay experience than Apple Maps anyway.
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Isn't the whole point to not touch your phone while driving? She'd so useless most of the time.
 
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