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That article reminds of me of this moment. 60 percent of the time, it works every time!
 
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homepod does understand you very well even if answers might be limited.
no it is the same as it is on the phone. tried to sed a simple message and it kept getting the words totally wrong. wife as tp play abc highly news podcast we get you have no unplayed podcasts.
 
This is so flawed. There is no standard test for AI. And along with that everyone has different stuff they ask. Never once have I asked Siri for anything navigation related, except get directions to... and that’s only on the phone when I’m in the car.

On another note I HATE amazons implementation of “skills”. I just want to say “Alexa arm my house” instead I have to say “Alexa tell skill to arm my house.” It may seem minor, but when you’re in a rush or drunk it makes a difference.
 
At my local Apple Store. It was far from a smooth interaction. I liked the sound, but the thought of repeating myself and yelling to get Siri to activate and then not understand on a regular basis led me to hold off for the time being.
we tested hey siri at best buy 20 feet away siri would answer. but as far as getting the request right thats a whole other bag.
 
I agree, not the best place to judge sound, but I thought it sounded fine in that environment. What I didn’t like was how Siri performed. If it was too noisy do Siri standing 2 feet away and yelling, I wasn’t impressed. Perhaps in house it will be better.

I have a feeling yelling at Siri from 2 feet away might degrade accuracy and performance. I'll try that out when I'm back at home in a couple hours.

Also...pausing for a second or more after saying "Hey Siri..." will cause problems, according to some here. Even a short pause (like a ",") isn't necessary, either.
 
On another note I HATE amazons implementation of “skills”. I just want to say “Alexa arm my house” instead I have to say “Alexa tell skill to arm my house.” It may seem minor, but when you’re in a rush or drunk it makes a difference.
yes that sucks. I have to say alexa ask ecobee to set temperature to 68 verses siri set heat to 68. but since alexa can do so much more it may need that to get things straight.
 
no it is the same as it is on the phone. tried to sed a simple message and it kept getting the words totally wrong. wife as tp play abc highly news podcast we get you have no unplayed podcasts.
I've put mine on the side where my lounge is and hears me pretty well from a decent distance. Doesn't seem to matter how loud the music is Siri seems to hear me straight away.
 
This is so flawed. There is no standard test for AI. And along with that everyone has different stuff they ask. Never once have I asked Siri for anything navigation related, except get directions to... and that’s only on the phone when I’m in the car.

On another note I HATE amazons implementation of “skills”. I just want to say “Alexa arm my house” instead I have to say “Alexa tell skill to arm my house.” It may seem minor, but when you’re in a rush or drunk it makes a difference.
It is a huge difference, unfortunately Siri is doing the same thing with their third party domains now. I use an app called AnyList for grocery lists and if I want to use Siri with it I have to say “Add onions to the Grocery list on AnyList”

It’s dumb, a poor implementation, and almost impossible to get the non-technical people in my household to remember.
 
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Yeah but when you pay $1000 for a phone or $350 for a bluetooth speaker, you should get more than ‘adequate’.

Your comparison is rather poor regarding a $1000 Phone and the HomePod. Consumers purchase the HomePod to rely on using commands mainly to operate the HomePod, Which Siri is a main core function for the HomePod. No one purchases a thousand dollar phone having to rely on using Siri only for commands to operate it, when they don’t have to use Siri on a smart phone if they don’t want to. The HomePod is almost entirely a hands free device to rely on Siri to control various functions. I understand your viewpoint, but it was not illustrated accurately.
 
I've put mine on the side where my lounge is and hears me pretty well from a decent distance. Doesn't seem to matter how loud the music is Siri seems to hear me straight away.
yes it hears well but not understand well. but when we were in bed I was using siri on my phone to turn all the lights off and siri kept going the home pod but that's out of range.
 
Maybe different types of background noise are more difficult to filter than others, because last time i was in 5 avenue apple store it was pretty damn noisy.

That's a major criticism I have about many of Apple's newer stores.

The one in downtown Palo Alto, California, for example, is crazy loud, to the point it's uncomfortable when there are only a few dozen people in there. When it's packed, it's insane.

A large part of that has to do with the architectural design of the building and choosing materials that are hard and highly sound-reflective.
 
I have a feeling yelling at Siri from 2 feet away might degrade accuracy and performance. I'll try that out when I'm back at home in a couple hours.

Also...pausing for a second or more after saying "Hey Siri..." will cause problems, according to some here. Even a short pause (like a ",") isn't necessary, either.

I noticed that about the pause too. If I paused, Siri turned off, a bit too quickly IMO. It made me feel like I had to think about what I was going to say and how I said it. But others have no such problem, so it’s probably my approach. I’m thinking I can just ask something like I would when talking to another person and have a high accuracy rate.

To me, it was similar to asking Apple Maps for directions vs Google Maps. With Google, I just say the address and it almost always gets it right. With Apple Maps, I have to speak slowly and it still messes up much more than Google. Ditto for using speech to text in iMessage vs WhatsApp. With I message, I have to speak slowly and exaggerate enunciation and it still makes way too many errors for my taste where with WhatsApp I can speak normally.
 
So, they bring out an audio speaker for which the addition of Siri is simply to find tracks to play, give you information on each track, each artist, and to be able to give you facts about each artist and their songs. Who plays bass on this number? Siri can tell you. Plus, a few simple things. So they ask it all kinds of questions that a full AI speaker can answer. It can't answer them, though on the Mac or the iPhone, which has a speaker, it can't answer. One can imagine that in a year, say, the full Siri will be available on all. Apple says, "This is a new kind of speaker," which some people don't care about. It's okay with them to listen on an Echo. Okay. If you want to listen to an Echo, it will be on in the background as you solder your $10 Raspberry Pi together. I myself will take the new kind of speaker.
 
Yeah the Apple Store or Best Buy are just going to be terrible places to demo this product, unfortunately.
 
I measure the success of any purchase by the price / years of use.
There's nothing in the Home Pod that can't be improved upon over the next year or so that requires new hardware.
In that respect the Home Pod is a clear success. The software, and AI, are fixable.
Can you say the same about the other smart speakers?

They may be good at telling you what the depth of the Grand Canyon is, but the AI in the HomePod is giving your great soundstage images.
 
The wealthiest company in the history of the world ranked the LOWEST of all competitors.

That’s inexcusable. Start fixing Siri.
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I hear ya.

But that trend goes way back to the Steve Jobs era. Like when he introduced the MacBook Air in 2007. With one USB port, 2 GB of RAM, an 80 GB spinning hard disk, a TN-based LCD panel, and an underpowered CPU that still managed to cause overheating issues. All for the price of $1,799.

This is because Apple is a marketing company, at heart, anyway. Nothing they offer is unique, the same way Starbucks sells arabica beans the same way as any other coffee shop or fast food establishment. It’s the “premium feel” you get from that coffeehouse which is why you’re paying $5 for 8oz. of coffee.

Apple is sold as a “premium experience” for consumers. You pay 3x for this feeling of premium commodity community.
 
I measure the success of any purchase by the price / years of use.
There's nothing in the Home Pod that can't be improved upon over the next year or so that requires new hardware.
In that respect the Home Pod is a clear success. The software, and AI, are fixable.
Can you say the same about the other smart speakers?

100% true. There are aspects to HomePod, like how well it picks up your voice and your commands, that beats the pants off of the competitors. That's not software, that's a combination of hardware and software.

Too bad most people here won't read the article carefully. If you disregard functions where Apple has specifically neutered HomePod for the time being (calls, calendar, etc.), HomePod's accuracy rate is only second to Google Assistant. That's not bad at all.
 
The numbers in the article match my personal experience with Siri closely. I find recognition of what I'm saying is excellent, but processing requests outside of mathematical queries, scheduling, HomeKit and sports scores categories mostly disappointing. And I don't even have a HomePod.
 
7 channels emanating from the same point in space is one channel.

No, it isn't.

With the HP, each of seven tweeters, plus the woofer, receives a distinct audio signal. That is, by definition, 7.1 channel stereo. It could only be reasonably considered one channel if the seven tweeters were outputting exactly the same signal, and the woofer outputs the same signal as the tweeters, except with higher frequencies cut off.
 
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100% true. There are aspects to HomePod, like how well it picks up your voice and your commands, that beats the pants off of the competitors. That's not software, that's a combination of hardware and software.

Too bad most people here won't read the article carefully. If you disregard functions where Apple has specifically neutered HomePod for the time being (calls, calendar, etc.), HomePod's accuracy rate is only second to Google Assistant. That's not bad at all.

You mean read it carefully so you can conjure up some way to make Apple come out on top?
 
I've put mine on the side where my lounge is and hears me pretty well from a decent distance. Doesn't seem to matter how loud the music is Siri seems to hear me straight away.

This doesn't surprise me too much with the microphone array. It's been done well before and this something I can't see Apple releasing half-assed. I'm certain they tested the **** out of it.
 
Frankly, I'd be happy if my Echo understood "louder" or "pause" 100% of the time. And if it didn't randomly start reading train schedules or weather reports while I'm watching TV.

With the caveat that I use my Echo almost exclusively for weather/traffic updates and to play music through my home stereo, I can’t think of a single instance in which it has not understood my command. It certainly hasn’t missed any play/stop type commands while music is playing. Overall, I’ve been very impressed with its functionality.
 
What the real breakthrough of the HomePod is that amazingly they get really close to that experience with just one speaker with integrated amplifier and source.

Is it going to replace my main audio and home cinema set up no. Not for a few years yet. But will it make a difference in most other rooms where there truly isn’t such a thing as a main listening position. Oh yes.
Didn't Bose already do this? Seriois, that I feel like I have to say is serious as to not be construed as negative. My understanding was that this is kind of THE thing the boss all in ones tout.
Agreed and my Denon has one of the most sophisticated systems (Bar perhaps Anthem and Arcam) there is. It does do an amazing job as well. Something I always felt I had to correct with Yamaha and Onkyo previously.

But;
* you got to find the microphone and cable
* you got to find a tripod
* you got to find alone time so not to disturb anyone
* you got to be quiet
* you got to be in the main listening position

Definitely a lot easier than it was, I used to do this with a sound pressure level meter. But the results are strictly just beneficial for where you are sitting.

And whilst that is great for a home cinema style setup, that I would argue is irrelevant for the HomePod setup.

I understand it adapts as to where you are in the room. And not only that, but to what you are playing.
i hear you. I'm personally just trying to see how this fits into my life, and since I can't, trying to see how it fits into others lives.

I'm most particularly trying to understand how people are justifying buying two of these in the same room. That's the point at which I imagine they're considering it a sound system replacement (maybe not and in making too many assumptions, part of why in here).

Or is are people just intimidated by calibration? When we are entering $700 territory we aren't talking about cheap anymore (and sky's is the limit when it comes to sound, but $700 will get you better than home theater in a box type equipment). Is it possible people just don't know what's out there? Do people not know what else $700 will get you? Are people buying two of these things for their media set up planning on also moving them around the house at will?

I guess, in short, I'm curious what existing audio video setup buyers of this product had. I can't see putting even one of these little onto in my living room set up as some people are discussing wanting to do
 
This doesn't surprise me too much with the microphone array. It's been done well before and this something I can't see Apple releasing half-assed. I'm certain they tested the **** out of it.
Basically the hardware is extremely solid but the software needs some work. This works for me - you can’t remotely update hardware for free.
 
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