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Siri References OS X 'Finder' Ahead of WWDC 2016 [Update: Siri May Know 'Dark Mode' Too]

It's value depends entirely on whether voice recognition validity improves or not. Currently in any side by side comparisons it is vastly inferior to Google ( at least with British accents)

I do use Google but the only time I use Siri is for hands free calling in the car. Asking it anything more difficult inevitably invokes "sorry I did not get that".
 
The only thing that's stopping me from going IOS is the storing of files in the phone, pdf, word files, etc.
 
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Brad9893 said:
Or, perhaps it means that they are bringing the Finder to iOS so we can finally access the file system. I'd really like that.
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Yes.

Yes please.

:)

It's always been my thought that Apple will trickle features into iOS to slowly subsume macOS's market without us even knowing. iPad Pro's with mouse support and Finder and many regular folk would just run iOS exclusively.
 
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oldmacs said:
To be fair, it says that if you ask it to open 'preview' as well :p
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I think they are now telling Siri to respond with "let me search the App Store"
 

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Zwhaler said:
Email a song from my music library, for example. It shocks me that Apple makes this so difficult.
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I like to organise my content for my uni courses by subject... which gets stupidly complex when I want to store images, keynotes, pages files and videos in one folder... then you end up with duplicates copying things in and out. It simply shouldn't be that had.

In 2011 when I bought my iPad 2 I was an ardent supporter of the iPad for productivity, but slowly thats dropped off as things have remained so bloody complex. iOS 9 started in the right direction but there is still some way to go.
 
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I can understand this being added to Mac OS for those that have dexterity issues etc, but it's a bit bloody late. There is speciaist software already that will always do a better job than Siri ever will.

If Siri for Mac is the biggest part of the announcement for 10.12, then it's going to be another underwhelming up date.
 
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rolsskk said:
I'd rather Apple focus on fixing Siri and make the stupid thing actually work, rather than just spreading their half-effort "assistant" across the Apple Ecosystem.
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I agree - just trying to get these answers out of Siri today reminded me how hopeless Siri can actually be... Its not like Apple haven't had nearly 5 years to improve it...
 
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I like to organise my content for my uni courses by subject... which gets stupidly complex when I want to store images, keynotes, pages files and videos in one folder... then you end up with duplicates copying things in and out. It simply shouldn't be that had.

In 2011 when I bought my iPad 2 I was an ardent supporter of the iPad for productivity, but slowly thats dropped off as things have remained so bloody complex. iOS 9 started in the right direction but there is still some way to go.
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This is exactly the example that I had in mind. I want to take different types of files and have them grouped together by subject. I don't want all of my Pages files put together simply because they are Pages files; that's a poor method of organization.
 
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sinoka56 said:
The only thing that's stopping me from going IOS is the storing of files in the phone, pdf, word files, etc.
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Apple's supremely arrogant and proprietary. If they ever broke their decades long stance that dictates they confine customers to the walled garden, the entire Apple business model would be impacted.
 
Apples approach is so stupid. You have to open the App and then pick the file instead of doing it the other way around. worst of all is that you have little to no idea if it made a copy of the original file or if you edit the original file so u may end up with 5 copies of the same file.

oh and dont get me started on all files of a kind just being thrown together
 
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Brad9893 said:
This is exactly the example that I had in mind. I want to take different types of files and have them grouped together by subject. I don't want all of my Pages files put together simply because they are Pages files; that's a poor method of organization.
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You can already do this with any of their apps. When you create the document you can create it in just about any App that can handle that document (dropbox, iCloud as default I think, and many many others). If you want to move files that are already stored in your iCloud App Specific sandboxes you can do that too. As well as crete a new folder for the subject and place all the files you want in there.
 
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You can already do this with any of their apps. When you create the document you can create it in just about any App that can handle that document (dropbox, iCloud as default I think, and many many others). If you want to move files that are already stored in your iCloud App Specific sandboxes you can do that too. As well as crete a new folder for the subject and place all the files you want in there.
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What if I don't want to store it on iCloud Drive? What if i want it stored locally? iCloud Drive is currently clumsy, you've got to download indovudal apps. It is simply not as easy as it should be, as containing to work using multiple cloud services complicates things.

Exactly how am I going to simply download a video and save it in my folder? What about a keynote presentation from my uni site? I've got to download it into keynote first, then go into iCloud drive to move it. That is not efficient or easy.
 
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Sound to me like they are adding finder/file system of some sort to iOS. My guess would be that the iPad pros are going to be slowly making a transition to "laptop" territory. I would welcome this greatly.
 
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In my estimation if Siri does come to OS X then it needs to be "always on" and it needs to get a lot better at handling complex queries and just plain understanding spoken language.

Here's a really complex task I'd love Siri to perform..."Siri, put an appointment on my calendar for a week from Monday at 9am to go back to the dentist to get a filling." Siri would understand "dentist" based on my contacts and the use of "go back" in the request to know which dentist I wanted and where. It could also infer based on prior dental appointments that I want this on my "home" calendar not, work or other calendars and that I needed a "travel time" reminder to get me there on time.
 
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iTom17 said:
And make it available to as many languages as possible. Because now everytime new features for Siri are being introduced we Dutch people for example can't use them in our language. Happened to the new Apple TV, and will definitely happen again with the macOS update.
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To think that Apple once was the leader in terms of languages, localization and all that...
It's quite saddening how much they lost interest in trying their very best.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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