I always wonder if posts like this are serious calls for attention, or if we're expected to believe you never drop anything.
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I always wonder if posts like this are serious calls for attention, or if we're expected to believe you never drop anything.
LOL, do you always put words in other people's mouth? I never said I never drop anything. I said I've never dropped my remote. I would think with the exception of the few in this thread that most adults don't drop their remote. It's not rocket science.
Night Spring
macrumors P6
A remote is an object that you pick up. Therefore, it can be dropped, as in it is physically possible to drop it. So you have not dropped a remote YET. Doesn't mean you couldn't drop one tomorrow. Saying you've never dropped a remote yet, so you'll never drop it in the future is like someone saying "I've never been in a car accident, so I don't need insurance."
You have never played Russian roulette and lost. Doesn’t mean you won’t in the future. You have never cut your lawn with a pair of scissors. Doesn’t mean you won’t in the future. In this big old world that we live in, anything is possible right? Yeah, we get it. Yadda, yadda, yadda…
Your false dilemma fallacy means nothing!
Assuming that something is going to happen in the future - is not the same thing as it happening in the future. You believe whatever you want to believe. I’m NOT losing sleep over it 😉
Night Spring
macrumors P6
Yes you are right. I didn't mean to imply that a remote getting dropped will necessarily happen. But a remote is an object that gets picked up very frequently. Therefore, the probability of a remote eventually getting dropped is high, because each time one is picked up, there is a chance it'll be dropped.
patrickdunn
macrumors 6502a
Arran
macrumors 603
This happened:
Anyone else? Needless to say, I'm a bit shocked this broke like this - especially considering I only dropped it from a short distance onto the kitchen table top. $79 to replace it folks!
Why isn't Apple drop testing stuff? How could this pass such a test?
So many questions...
Wow. Glass surfaces and edges. Seems like a poor choice of materials. Especially considering its predecessor - the aluminum stick remote - was/is practically indestructible.
tonyr6
macrumors 68000
I am afraid to even use my remote now. I am very clumsy and drop remotes all the time. None broke. Apple making the remote as fragile as the iPhone is a stupid move. Also charging $80 for a replacement is a ripoff. I want to get a case for this thing but I can't find anyone selling one.
Since the announcement I questioned the remotes design, at least for me. I've often dropped my remote, not intentionally of course. It's slides off the couch, I fall asleep with it in my lap and it slides off or I forget it's there and stand up, sent flying if I'm using a blanket on the couch then go to fold it, etc etc. A TV remote isn't something I want to worry about.
It might be hard to see but over the course of many years even the plastic on my Logitech remote developed a crack...2 o clock from the USB port, click to enlarge.
I don't have an ATV yet but many are commenting they didn't even know it was glass. So why use it when capacitive touch works thru high quality plastic too? Sounds like form over function taken to new heights.
It might be hard to see but over the course of many years even the plastic on my Logitech remote developed a crack...2 o clock from the USB port, click to enlarge.
I don't have an ATV yet but many are commenting they didn't even know it was glass. So why use it when capacitive touch works thru high quality plastic too? Sounds like form over function taken to new heights.
I completely agree, however my point is that it needs to be handled differently than the remote that came with the previous Apple TV's. Allow me to use this as an example; let's say you have two wine glasses, one is a plastic glass from walmart, and the other is an expensive crystal wine glass that has been handed down to you from generations of being in your family. Are you going to handle both glasses the same? Hopefully not.
The plastic glass will probably get much more abuse by being handled much more carelessly. The crystal wine glass should be handled with great care (what I call being handled with respect) whenever it is touched, even when it’s washed and dried.
Regarding the ATV4 remote, the point is that parts of it are made out of glass, and so it needs to be handled with more care than an ordinary remote. The Apple TV 4 remote is very unique. Even logitech doesn’t have anything like it available. Glass is much more fragile than plastic, so it needs to be handled accordingly. If it isn’t, then it will be a $80.00 lesson each time it’s not.
Glass is a much better electrical insulator than plastic. That is why Apple holds a patent on the glass trackpad.
I completely understand it needs to be handled different because of the material it is made out of. My point is why should it?
I like your example because it illustrates my point, but you are leaving out the most important part of any product...how its used...
If you drink wine everyday and had friends over that drink wine with you which wine glasses would you use? Durable ones suitable for your use or fragile ones designed for use on very rare occasions?
Embarrassingly, I probably watch TV everyday if even only for a short bit. So using your example I'd say the clear choice is a more durable wine glass.
In reality its not a problem, from watching online reviews and reading customer reviews online I'm going to hold off on the ATV for a little while, maybe consider a case for the remote. Who knows maybe like my iPhone and iPad I'll just subconsciously be more careful with the ATV remote.
Unless the kids are going to use the remote for games you could purchase or use the older aluminum Apple TV remote and have them use that instead. It's not a terrible idea, but not ideal either.
jaknudsen
macrumors regular
The button sound on the new Apple TV remote isn't ear pleasing, to put it mildly.
Artimus12
macrumors 6502a
I don't usually suffer from butter fingers, but I've just ordered the Loop! because prevention is better than cure.
It makes the remote easier to pick up from flat smooth surfaces without it scooting off into oblivion, I can walk around and do stuff without absent-mindedly letting my grip loose, and I can fall asleep on the couch with it in my hand with less worry of it dropping.
It makes the remote easier to pick up from flat smooth surfaces without it scooting off into oblivion, I can walk around and do stuff without absent-mindedly letting my grip loose, and I can fall asleep on the couch with it in my hand with less worry of it dropping.
It's made out of glass because glass offers better performance characterisics not offered by any other material, as mentioned previously.
This would depend on the adults. I certainly wouldn't give anything fragile to someone whom I didn't trust understood how to properly use it.
Now that makes sense 😀 I know some stores are offering extended warranties that will cover if the remote is broken.
I think it sounds fine 😉 To each his own I guess.
APlotdevice
macrumors 68040
So has anyone actually tested the loop? (I'm not entirely convinced of its effectiveness given how it connects)
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The loop works very well. It has triangular retractable hooks that lock it in place that are released by a button on the connector. It's not letting go of the remote.
Yeah... The glass should have been recessed beneath the aluminum or had curved edges like the iPhone... Remotes fall off of beds & couches, get flinged off of blankets, sat on, and yes accidentally dropped.
2128506
macrumors 6502
Common sense says that living room remote will be bumped, dropped and scratched every day. Much, much more than smartphone in fact.
This is why virtually all remotes are hard plastic with rubbery buttons - so they will last reasonable time, which in case of living room gear is YEARS. Again, unlike smartphone, which is designed to be replaced after a year.
Edge-to-edge glass on such item demonstrates total lack of common sense. But hey, buttons resonate properly!