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Does it really make you worry though? Siri was equally good at everything except finding pictures of dogs. It certainly wasn't a blowout either way. I thought the display for Kobe Bryant's height was better on Siri, and the reminder was screwed up by the host.

It makes me worry in the sense that Siri is so hyped up, while Google quietly has a pretty competitive, maybe even better alternative. The naturalness of the voice to me is a big deal. One of the main arguments against Apple is that their products are nothing special and they are just great marketers. I have always disagreed with this (though they are certainly great marketers) but in this case it seems to be true. If I were deciding between and iPhone and a Nexus and saw that comparison, I would wonder what else the Nexus can do better given the fact that I only hear about the Apple stuff in the media.

If Siri is using such great and unique technology that can understand context and all that, how come Google can so easily do the same thing, with faster response times?
 
Does it really make you worry though? Siri was equally good at everything except finding pictures of dogs. It certainly wasn't a blowout either way. I thought the display for Kobe Bryant's height was better on Siri, and the reminder was screwed up by the host.

I think you're being kind. While the google search wasn't great at setting a reminder - there was a clear speed advantage to getting info from Google's implementation over Siri each time.

If the situation was reversed - no matter how quick - people would be giving high fives to Siri.

And as far as aesthetics. I don't discount them AT ALL. However - 9/10 times I just want the information. And as long as it's presented in a readable way - it's more than fine.
 
Stumbled across this and it makes me worry about Siri. Google's offering is faster and has a much more natural voice. What is so much better about Siri that Apple had to buy them and spend so long working on it? Can it be purely explained by the need for more data centres to support the massive number of queries, or is Apple falling behind?

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Watch Tom Gruber's presentation on Siri from a couple of years ago. It's on Youtube. Siri isn't about speed or a sexy voice.
 
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Google is just a dumb engine with no possible applications other than being a directory of the internet. They have never developed beyond coder style searches for specifics and their engineer backgrounds suggest they never will.

That is a joke, isn't?


And regarding the report, useless as most of Munster. It would have been a better comparison if he have been used voice input in an Android device to test Google
 
This should have been a test of Siri vs Google Voice app. This was apples to watermelons.

Sorry, what would the point in that be? Jelly Bean added this feature, and its the android equivalent to Siri - its built into the OS - just like Siri...
 
Watch Tom Gruber's presentation on Siri from a couple of years ago. It's on Youtube. Siri isn't about speed or a sexy voice.

Really? it's not about speed? Maybe it should be. Because when I do searches - especially voice vs text - I'm looking for convenience AND SPEED.

The voice is a nice "perk." and shows progress over synthesized computer speech. Again - if Siri had the better voice I would bet you'd be asking or high fives.
 
Really? it's not about speed? Maybe it should be. Because when I do searches - especially voice vs text - I'm looking for convenience AND SPEED.

The voice is a nice "perk." and shows progress over synthesized computer speech. Again - if Siri had the better voice I would bet you'd be asking or high fives.

Don't act like you know me, what are you "betting" with virtual money? Keep your non currency bets please.

Speed is important to a point but i'm not going to quibble about a second or two if the accuracy is sufficient
 
Don't act like you know me, what are you "betting" with virtual money? Keep your non currency bets please.

Speed is important to a point but i'm not going to quibble about a second or two if the accuracy is sufficient

What if they are equally accurate? I guess we won't know until both products are out in the wild, but the demo indicates both do a good job in that regard. If it's not about speed and voice what is it about?
 
Don't act like you know me, what are you "betting" with virtual money? Keep your non currency bets please.

Speed is important to a point but i'm not going to quibble about a second or two if the accuracy is sufficient

Key word being IF. And I believe that was part of the study this article is about.

As for knowing you - relax. Figure of speech. I might not know you, but now I know how sensitive you can be.
 
Siri is not on the same level as Google voice. Just saying.

It not even the same type of service. Google voice is a telephone service where they re-route all of your calls through their servers via a google number you give your friends and family. It then transfers the call after of course recording and transcribing it to get as much data as possible.
 
Does it really make you worry though? Siri was equally good at everything except finding pictures of dogs. It certainly wasn't a blowout either way. I thought the display for Kobe Bryant's height was better on Siri, and the reminder was screwed up by the host.


hardly a blow out - plus what happens when you phrase the questions differently? will google be able to parse it correctly? and this was the 1st test release of ios - googl is coming out next month so i'm sure its been tuned. apples 1st release is always slow because they have the debugging tools turned on. isn't that galaxy a newer device? so not quite a fair comparison.
 
hardly a blow out - plus what happens when you phrase the questions differently? will google be able to parse it correctly? and this was the 1st test release of ios - googl is coming out next month so i'm sure its been tuned. apples 1st release is always slow because they have the debugging tools turned on. isn't that galaxy a newer device? so not quite a fair comparison.

All I read from your post are excuses and dismissals. Here's a secret - you'll never get the data you want because phones/specs will always be different and come out at a different time - as will their OSes. So what do you do - dismiss every single comparison?
 
Sorry, what would the point in that be? Jelly Bean added this feature, and its the android equivalent to Siri - its built into the OS - just like Siri...

The point is that this article is comparing Siri voice search on the iPhone to typing a search into the Google search box on the iPhone.
 
Key word being IF. And I believe that was part of the study this article is about.

As for knowing you - relax. Figure of speech. I might not know you, but now I know how sensitive you can be.

No worries mate. Just pointing out the fact that you don't now how i'd respond.

I'm a Siri fan or at the least a fan of the semantic technology behind Siri and other technologies.

The end game is not to feed simple 1 query 1 answer. That's not how humans interact. Humans interact through queues of commands and prioritize and delegate (Hey I need you to help me with this can you...."

A basic test for technologies like Siri should be

1. Basic search query

2. Advanced search query where multiple items are requested

3. Multi Lingual testing - Siri is about semanics which change depending on the language.

4. Ability to delegate

and more than I can't think of off the top of my head. It doesn't really matter to me of Google is a second faster at giving me a stupid sports score. I've ESPN chiming my phone for those. Give me something I can really use.
 
It not even the same type of service. Google voice is a telephone service where they re-route all of your calls through their servers via a google number you give your friends and family. It then transfers the call after of course recording and transcribing it to get as much data as possible.

Any links where it is stated that calls are being recorded and transcribed?
 
and more than I can't think of off the top of my head. It doesn't really matter to me of Google is a second faster at giving me a stupid sports score. I've ESPN chiming my phone for those. Give me something I can really use.

Actually - the thing I liked best about the video is that google went right to search to show pictures of dogs vs Siri having an interstitial to ask if the user wanted to look for a search (confirmation). That's a big time waster and isn't a streamlined process to/for me. Yes - a simple search. But many times - that's what I'm doing IF (and I say IF because I'm not big on voice input anyway) I am searching.

I agree that there would be better tests and I would love to see how both parse the queries.
 
The point is that this article is comparing Siri voice search on the iPhone to typing a search into the Google search box on the iPhone.

Yes, but its not comparing the audio input quality on siri - you could type the questions out to siri and the result would still show the google option to be faster and more accurate with results, that's a no brainer.
 
Siri is not on the same level as Google voice. Just saying.

You are correct. Siri is on a much higher level.

I have yet to find any android app that will "Reming me to do XYZ when I get home" or "Add abc to my shopping list". These are the things that are important to me.
 
All I read from your post are excuses and dismissals. Here's a secret - you'll never get the data you want because phones/specs will always be different and come out at a different time - as will their OSes. So what do you do - dismiss every single comparison?

no excuses - but don't compare beta software - do the comparison on final versions. i'm a software developer - i'd never let anyone near my test versions - i leave all kinds of debugging code turned on during the development phase and write out enormous result files which slow everything down. when both os's are done then test them and if google wins so be it. but this is a completely meaningless test to me at this point. google only won by mili-seconds not minutes.
 
Siri's reliability is extremely poor. As far as I'm concerned, its only useful AT ALL if it works when I need it to work ie: in a hurry, in the car, hands are full, etc...

Its always when you NEED it to work, that it fails and you realize you would have saved time by doing it the old fashion way.

Its not its accuracy in deciphering what you say, that I always find excellent.

Siri's biggest problem is its HORRIBLY SLOW and OFTEN FAILING connection to the internet, whether it be WIFI, 4G, or 3G.
 
You are correct. Siri is on a much higher level.

I have yet to find any android app that will "Reming me to do XYZ when I get home" or "Add abc to my shopping list". These are the things that are important to me.

Oh stop. You're soo damn blinded by Apple it's ridiculous. You fanboys would give your arms for a shiny Apple product. You (as in ridiculous crazy Apple fanboys, not ppl who like the company in general) are PATHETIC. Yes Apple is a great company, they make bank!!! But don't act as if their ***** don't stink.
 
Oh stop. You're soo damn blinded by Apple it's ridiculous. You fanboys would give your arms for a shiny Apple product. You (as in ridiculous crazy Apple fanboys, not ppl who like the company in general) are PATHETIC. Yes Apple is a great company, they make bank!!! But don't act as if their ***** don't stink.

Well said!
 
Siri sucks because it cant differentiate between german and english unlike google's voice.

i cant use half the features starting with the iPod control because siri always tries to understand german words when i actually mean something in english like "Macrumors" turns into "mark lammers ka" (thats not even german btw) yet it works fine on the just released chrome browser

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