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You've missed so much of what this technology can offer it's astounding. From pilots who can have their instruments, etc displayed in front of them, to assisting some visually impaired people to so many other applications.

You're getting bogged down on one aspect - those who need a prescription for eyewear. If that's your biggest issue... you are being very "short sighted" - pun intended.

^Ditto.

There's also nothing to stop a 'retrofit' to existing glasses and sunglasses. From the looks of the prototypes, a few of them appear to literally be a left and right addon to a pair of standard glasses.
 
^Ditto.

There's also nothing to stop a 'retrofit' to existing glasses and sunglasses. From the looks of the prototypes, a few of them appear to literally be a left and right addon to a pair of standard glasses.

Further - I think if people parachuting from a plane can wear them comfortably (the OP mentioned biking) then I think "sporting" them will be just fine. Not to mention - who says you would be walking around with these 24/7?
 
I don't think he is missing the point of the experiment, I think that he, like me, thinks the point is stupid.
No, he clearly missed the point of the experiment and thus think it's stupid.

Seeing how Siri can use Google's search engine if instructed to do so, the answer is you won't get it any faster using one or the other. The only difference is the speech recognition is a little less accurate than typed-input, but the result will be the same.
But Siri wasn't instructed to perform a Google search for crying out loud! They were asking questions, not asking siri to google something and then googling the same thing on Google........

Again what you fail to comprehend apparently is Siri can use Google as it's tool, so it isn't an either or case. One tool is subsumable under the other. So, to make this clear to you, Siri can use either Google or Wolfram Alpha, your choice. So depending on what kind of search you want to do, you would be best advised to use the engines that yields the best results.
I fail to comprehend?

But again you fail to realize you can ask Siri to "Google how tall is the empire state building". You are not forced to only say "how tall is the empire state building". Just because you don't know how to use Siri effectively doesn't diminish it's capabilities.
Why. Is it. So difficult. For you. To understand. The point. Of this research.

Wow! Your reading comprehension is so great that you failed to check in with reality. When comparing two things, one should not try to compare apples to oranges. You also failed to understand my comment, so you need to check your comprehension skills.

Some other really stupid comparisons that have been posted lately include" Surface Pro (full windows 8) vs. iPad (mobile OS), Google Map vs Apple Map (UNRELEASED BETA), etc....

*Sigh*

Just...
Both of you.
This article and the work of researchers seems to be above you. You think it's stupid because you clearly don't understand it. I don't have energy for your ignorance.

How hard is it to understand an article written in English.

They were both asking Siri and Google questions.

Siri comes up with an answer using it's sources.

In case of Google, it's 86% accuracy is based on finding an answer for your question on the first page of the search results. As clearly stated in the article.

These. Two. Things. Were. Compared.

Basically they want to answer the questions whether it is better to ask Siri a question or ask it in Google. Siri uses several sources of information for it's answers, including Google. It then spits out an answer. So to your point JohnDoe98, it could be iether Google or Wolfram, or a combination of both. And then Google, you ask the question, and then look for an answer in the results, as clearly stated in the article.

Now, is this so hard to understand?

Or do I have to go through it again?

Where do you people come from?

EDIT: Going through this topic I'm shocked to see a large number of people who still don't get this research. It's so simple, yet people try to make it more complicated. Of course it's stupid to compare voice recognition with typing, but that's not the bloody point...
 
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No, he clearly missed the point of the experiment and thus think it's stupid.

But Siri wasn't instructed to perform a Google search for crying out loud! They were asking questions, not asking siri to google something and then googling the same thing on Google........

I fail to comprehend?

Why. Is it. So difficult. For you. To understand. The point. Of this research.



*Sigh*

Just...
Both of you.
This article and the work of researchers seems to be above you. You think it's stupid because you clearly don't understand it. I don't have energy for your ignorance.

How hard is it to understand an article written in English.

They were both asking Siri and Google questions.

Siri comes up with an answer using it's sources.

In case of Google, it's 86% accuracy is based on finding an answer for your question on the first page of the search results. As clearly stated in the article.

These. Two. Things. Were. Compared.

Basically they want to answer the questions whether it is better to ask Siri a question or ask it in Google. Siri uses several sources of information for it's answers, including Google. It then spits out an answer. So to your point JohnDoe98, it could be iether Google or Wolfram, or a combination of both. And then Google, you ask the question, and then look for an answer in the results, as clearly stated in the article.

Now, is this so hard to understand?

Or do I have to go through it again?

Where do you people come from?

It's very apparent that you don't understand how google and siri both work very differently.

For instance when you type into google "Why is my hair turning grey?" it turns those words into keywords and tries to find the result that contains the most of them. This will produce mostly forum pages and probably a couple of yahoo and wiki answers. This is not intelligent in any way and isn't actually trying to answer your question, it's just matching keywords.

When you ask siri the same question it literally tries to comprehend what you said and then attempts to answer your question based on information contained in it's many knowledge bases. The technology in siri is far more advanced than in a google search and is actually moving devices toward sentience.

For now google might be more efficient, but that's just because there's so much knowledge present on the internet forums and wikis and because siri is so young. Eventually, (hopefully) asking siri a question will be like asking an expert in the field and it will yield the most accurate and comprehensive result.

I hope you now know where I'm coming from. It's not me that doesn't understand, it's you.
 
Honestly i think that Siri would be better if they let me teach it...


for instance, if siri understands my words but cant understand what i mean....i could just touch a button and then teach it ..


Isnt that a good ideia?! If Siri cant memorize what i mean...it would be easier.
 
It's very apparent that you don't understand how google and siri both work very differently.

For instance when you type into google "Why is my hair turning grey?" it turns those words into keywords and tries to find the result that contains the most of them. This will produce mostly forum pages and probably a couple of yahoo and wiki answers. This is not intelligent in any way and isn't actually trying to answer your question, it's just matching keywords.

Google use to work that way. It is much more complex than that now breaking search queries into fragments in much the same way siri does. Have you tried typing "What is the weather in new york city"? Google is doing a lot of the same things Siri is doing. I think for the most part people are use to searching a certain way so you don't see a full on natural search ability on Google.com yet. But I'm sure it is coming.
 
It's very apparent that you don't understand how google and siri both work very differently.

For instance when you type into google "Why is my hair turning grey?" it turns those words into keywords and tries to find the result that contains the most of them. This will produce mostly forum pages and probably a couple of yahoo and wiki answers. This is not intelligent in any way and isn't actually trying to answer your question, it's just matching keywords.

When you ask siri the same question it literally tries to comprehend what you said and then attempts to answer your question based on information contained in it's many knowledge bases. The technology in siri is far more advanced than in a google search and is actually moving devices toward sentience.
Yes. Bravo. That's how both systems work. A bit of a comical exaggeration towards the end but well, I forgive you. Good job. Really good. Have a cookie.

Now.

This is the point of this research.

Compare an answer prepared by Siri with the first page of search results from Google.

Accuracy and effectiveness of getting information on a mobile device using both methods, asking Siri or Googling it.

Get it? Finally?

Get it? Or do you all still think these researchers are stupid?
 
EDIT: Going through this topic I'm shocked to see a large number of people who still don't get this research. It's so simple, yet people try to make it more complicated. Of course it's stupid to compare voice recognition with typing, but that's not the bloody point...

So explain it to me, why are they comparing a voice recognition/AI to a search engine. Should we compare a Mustang to President Obama next? (Hint: President Obama can use the Mustang to get me to the White House or he could take me in his Limo...but it doesn't mean I should critique him on his use of the limo and how much slower "he" his when doing so).

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Get it? Or do you all still think these researchers are stupid?

Yes, they are stupid. And I think the term "researcher" is being used way too loosely in this situation.
 
This is completely untrue

I can tell you personally that this is complete ********. I'm a dev and I have a 4S running iOS 6 and a Galaxy Nexus on Jelly Bean. Google now is absolutely useless compared to Siri. I really should post a youtube comparison and show the world, but I'm a little busy. Maybe if I'm feeling industrious. Take it from someone who carries both devices in his pocket every day, Siri is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Google Now.
 
It's very apparent that you don't understand how google and siri both work very differently.

For instance when you type into google "Why is my hair turning grey?" it turns those words into keywords and tries to find the result that contains the most of them. This will produce mostly forum pages and probably a couple of yahoo and wiki answers. This is not intelligent in any way and isn't actually trying to answer your question, it's just matching keywords.

When you ask siri the same question it literally tries to comprehend what you said and then attempts to answer your question based on information contained in it's many knowledge bases. The technology in siri is far more advanced than in a google search and is actually moving devices toward sentience.

For now google might be more efficient, but that's just because there's so much knowledge present on the internet forums and wikis and because siri is so young. Eventually, (hopefully) asking siri a question will be like asking an expert in the field and it will yield the most accurate and comprehensive result.

I hope you now know where I'm coming from. It's not me that doesn't understand, it's you.
You must work at Google, because you think you know the Google algorithms for programs. Good job, you're smart.
 
This is meaningless without testing multiple accents in all languages and having questions posed in different ways!

Pointless to the extreme is what comes to mind.

Siri is more of an experiment than a real feature, it's the interpretation of the sentance that is the exciting part of siri and it's ability to follow a thread.

Google is just a dumb engine with no possible applications other than being a directory of the internet. They have never developed beyond coder style searches for specifics and their engineer backgrounds suggest they never will.

spoken like a true Apple fanboy, lol.


More link on same subject:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2012/06/29/minneapolis-street-test-google-gets-a-b-apples-siri-gets-a-d/
 
Go back to the Android forums. Siri is way better than Google's assistant.

Google doesn't have an Assistant yet. Notice they are still calling it Voice Search. Yes, Siri is still better at doing things like sending messages, setting up calendar events. But what a lot of demonstrations have shown is Google is actually responding to natural language queries on par (and sometimes better than Siri) with the way it responds. Most of the demos have shown the way it displays the result to be more intuitive than Siri as well. In the end, there is no clear winner as both have their pros and cons depending on what you feed it.
 
Google doesn't have an Assistant yet. Notice they are still calling it Voice Search. Yes, Siri is still better at doing things like sending messages, setting up calendar events. But what a lot of demonstrations have shown is Google is actually responding to natural language queries on par (and sometimes better than Siri) with the way it responds. Most of the demos have shown the way it displays the result to be more intuitive than Siri as well. In the end, there is no clear winner as both have their pros and cons depending on what you feed it.
Their Jelly Bean assistant can now set up calendar events, reminders etc.
 
I can tell you personally that this is complete ********. I'm a dev and I have a 4S running iOS 6 and a Galaxy Nexus on Jelly Bean. Google now is absolutely useless compared to Siri. I really should post a youtube comparison and show the world, but I'm a little busy. Maybe if I'm feeling industrious. Take it from someone who carries both devices in his pocket every day, Siri is LIGHT YEARS ahead of Google Now.

You mean your experience is more important than someone else's who has a video on YouTube with both devices? Tell me why your experience is more valid than the video that was shown?

Very self important aren't you - so busy. Maybe if you're feeling industrious. Oh my. What a life you have...
 
Their Jelly Bean assistant can now set up calendar events, reminders etc.

Yes, but what I have seen from the demos is it is still limited in what you have to say to get it to work and it still requires user interaction for most assistant actions to complete. There's been rumors that later this year Google will be turning it into Google Assistant which will be the full blown 'majel' project that they have been working on. In the meantime, I'm not sure the comparisons are really useful.
 
Yes, but what I have seen from the demos is it is still limited in what you have to say to get it to work and it still requires user interaction for most assistant actions to complete. There's been rumors that later this year Google will be turning it into Google Assistant which will be the full blown 'majel' project that they have been working on. In the meantime, I'm not sure the comparisons are really useful.
This guy over here sets up a reminder (calendar event). In my opinion both systems are pretty comparable. I don't think it requires more "user interactions" to complete those actions, it's just a different UX choice (e.g. you set the date by hand instead of telling the assistant when you want it).
 
In said article: "'In order to become a viable mobile search alternative,' Munster writes, 'Siri must match or surpass Google's accuracy of B+ and move from a grade D to a B or higher.'"

This is what I'm arguing against (I'm still not sure what you're arguing for, your position is a bit vague), siri is not meant to be a "viable mobile search alternative," it's meant to be a semi-sentient AI. There is a huge difference between those two things (a difference that I've laid out in my previous posts).

But don't take my word for it, google: "What spices are in Lasagna?" and then look at the bold words, those are the keywords it matched in those results. Sure, right now siri can't answer that, but eventually it will, better than google even, because google will still rely on keywords because that's what it's made to do.

Also, stop with the childish condescension it makes you look dumb.
 
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I think you're splitting hairs. First of all - google search uses more than just keywords. That's simplifying to a BIG degree. Second of all - the conclusion you quoted is perfectly accurate. Siri might be a personal assistant - but part of that is being able to be a viable mobile search alternative since a big part of siri's use case is searching. Siri can't tell you what spices are in lasagna you say YET. But you dismiss google for not being able to. When who says which one will get their first? You?

Sorry - but it's all conjecture and perhaps a biased one at that. Technology is moving forward. But that doesn't negate the findings for "today."

In said article: "'In order to become a viable mobile search alternative,' Munster writes, 'Siri must match or surpass Google's accuracy of B+ and move from a grade D to a B or higher.'"

This is what I'm arguing against (I'm still not sure what you're arguing for, your position is a bit vague), siri is not meant to be a "viable mobile search alternative," it's meant to be a semi-sentient AI. There is a huge difference between those two things (a difference that I've laid out in my previous posts).

But don't take my word for it, google: "What spices are in Lasagna?" and then look at the bold words, those are the keywords it matched in those results. Sure, right now siri can't answer that, but eventually it will, better than google even, because google will still rely on keywords because that's what it's made to do.

Also, stop with the childish condescension it makes you look dumb.
 
In said article: "'In order to become a viable mobile search alternative,' Munster writes, 'Siri must match or surpass Google's accuracy of B+ and move from a grade D to a B or higher.'"

This is what I'm arguing against (I'm still not sure what you're arguing for, your position is a bit vague), siri is not meant to be a "viable mobile search alternative," it's meant to be a semi-sentient AI. There is a huge difference between those two things (a difference that I've laid out in my previous posts).
Even if Siri is not meant to be a "viable mobile search alternative", Siri is suppose to give you answers to your questions and this is what the researchers were comparing. That's the point of this research which many people clearly don't seem to understand and think those researchers are idiots, while it was a very insightful research.

But don't take my word for it, google: "What spices are in Lasagna?" and then look at the bold words, those are the keywords it matched in those results. Sure, right now siri can't answer that, but eventually it will, better than google even, because google will still rely on keywords because that's what it's made to do.
This is semantic search and Google has been working on it for years and I'm sure will get there a lot sooner than Siri, because Google is a bloody search engine company, that's their main thing.

Also, stop with the childish condescension it makes you look dumb.
Not understanding a clearly written article about a research makes you look dumb.

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siri can't tell you what spices are in lasagna you say yet. But you dismiss google for not being able to. When who says which one will get their first? You?
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Even if Siri is not meant to be a "viable mobile search alternative", Siri is suppose to give you answers to your questions and this is what the researchers were comparing. That's the point of this research which many people clearly don't seem to understand and think those researchers are idiots, while it was a very insightful research.

This is semantic search and Google has been working on it for years and I'm sure will get there a lot sooner than Siri, because Google is a bloody search engine company, that's their main thing.

Not understanding a clearly written article about a research makes you look dumb.

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I understand the article just fine, I just disagree with what the researcher's definition of siri is. If you think that the only thing siri is supposed to do is replace a search engine, that's your prerogative. That's it, it's not worth saying anymore. I'm out.
 
I understand the article just fine, I just disagree with what the researcher's definition of siri is. If you think that the only thing siri is supposed to do is replace a search engine, that's your prerogative. That's it, it's not worth saying anymore. I'm out.

He never said that Siri was supposed to be any ONE thing. But you can't deny that search is a pretty big function of Siri.

Consider that controlling music and setting appointments has been considered very low on the usage meter based on statistics. That leaves dictation and search primarily - doesn't it? I'm asking you sincerely.
 
I understand the article just fine, I just disagree with what the researcher's definition of siri is. If you think that the only thing siri is supposed to do is replace a search engine, that's your prerogative. That's it, it's not worth saying anymore. I'm out.
You say that yet a moment ago you were describing how Siri will be able to search for spices entailed in a Lasagna.
 
I don't use Siri all that often, but today I fired her up on my way out to lunch and said "I'd like some Chinese food." She responded: "Good for you Steve." I just about went off the road laughing.

Steve
 
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