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My big question is about Macs. Is Apple really going to push a type of headphones that can't plug into Macs? Or will you also need a lightning to 3.5 reverse adapter?
 
Real or not, I can't help but laugh at the tech blog echo chamber decrying the removal of the 3.5 jack. This tells you the level of intelligence driving tech blogs. ...They all know each other, get chummy at events and all think what they say matters.
Nilay Patel being the main doofus on this one.
And they can't even adequately explain their gripe. Especially when not even knowing what Apples solution is. It's all based on congecture.

They are building a pre-emtive click bait of "outrage"

"How dare they!!"

Truth is, as long as the new phone has a pair of earphones, no one is going to give a rats ass.

And if you are in the hyper minority of .01 percent of the population who owns a pair of $500 dollar headphones to listen to music on a smartphone, then you have other issues and the money for an adopter.
Most people will lose or break their EarPods and just go to the corner store and pay $15 bucks for a new pair without any of the manufactured angst of the click-bait morons who run tech blogs. (Nilay Patel)


Then when you buy 15 bucks headphone and find out it won't work with iPhone 7... What you gonna do?

Sucks to be iPhone 7 users... Not buying any lightning headphone. It is stupid.
 
No one wants to charge headphone. This isn't the way to go!
I don't know, it's been working pretty well for me. I haven't plugged headphones into my phone for well over a year now.
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Then when you buy 15 bucks headphone and find out it won't work with iPhone 7... What you gonna do?

Sucks to be iPhone 7 users... Not buying any lightning headphone. It is stupid.
You know, there are quite a few options for wireless headphones under $20.
 
Real or not, I can't help but laugh at the tech blog echo chamber decrying the removal of the 3.5 jack. This tells you the level of intelligence driving tech blogs. ...They all know each other, get chummy at events and all think what they say matters.
Nilay Patel being the main doofus on this one.
And they can't even adequately explain their gripe. Especially when not even knowing what Apples solution is. It's all based on congecture.

They are building a pre-emtive click bait of "outrage"

"How dare they!!"

Truth is, as long as the new phone has a pair of earphones, no one is going to give a rats ass.

And if you are in the hyper minority of .01 percent of the population who owns a pair of $500 dollar headphones to listen to music on a smartphone, then you have other issues and the money for an adopter.
Most people will lose or break their EarPods and just go to the corner store and pay $15 bucks for a new pair without any of the manufactured angst of the click-bait morons who run tech blogs. (Nilay Patel)
Anyone who listens to music using headphones other than the ones that came with their phone will care. Some of us do care about sound quality, and we aren't going to put up with carrying an adapter.

I've bought each of the last 4 iPhone models, but I will not buy any additional iPhones if they ship with no headphone jack. That is a deal-breaker to me.
 
Anyone who listens to music using headphones other than the ones that came with their phone will care. Some of us do care about sound quality, and we aren't going to put up with carrying an adapter.

I've bought each of the last 4 iPhone models, but I will not buy any additional iPhones if they ship with no headphone jack. That is a deal-breaker to me.

Cool. We all have our thing.
When I really want to enjoy music I sit in a quiet room with great speakers. That's my thing.
Listening to music on a smartphone is a trade off in itself in my book. But who knows? Apple may have come up with a great solution.
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Then when you buy 15 bucks headphone and find out it won't work with iPhone 7... What you gonna do?

Sucks to be iPhone 7 users... Not buying any lightning headphone. It is stupid.

Lol I usually read the package.
And if you picked up the wrong one, return it.
It's not the end of the world as some make it out to be.
 
Would be cool if Apple gave us wireless earphones. If Apple still sells 8GB iPhone (in developing countries), those wireless earphones are wishful thinking.
 
I have always used Apple's headphones with my devices. The only problem I have with the lightning connector is that I can't use the new headphones with my MacBook. :-(
 
Anyone who listens to music using headphones other than the ones that came with their phone will care. Some of us do care about sound quality, and we aren't going to put up with carrying an adapter.

I've bought each of the last 4 iPhone models, but I will not buy any additional iPhones if they ship with no headphone jack. That is a deal-breaker to me.
If you really care about audio quality, this could be a huge improvement. A DAC built into a pair of high end headphones will blow away the DAC currently included in the iPhone.
 
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I wish someone would create a "rumor check" database that keeps all these photos recorded.

I'm gonna forget about this article and photo in 3 months when the new iPhone and new headphones ship.

It would be nice to go back and quickly see a collection of all these leaked photos and compare them to what we actually got... instead of having to search through months of leak articles (which I never do because it's a pain)
 
I don't know, it's been working pretty well for me. I haven't plugged headphones into my phone for well over a year now.
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You know, there are quite a few options for wireless headphones under $20.

Quite a few 'bad' options for wireless headphones under $20 I would imagine.:eek:
 
I still don't think this is the way Apple will go..
It's going to be all about the wireless.
Wireless ear/headphones.. wireless charging..

Whether they will still include (wireless) earphones in the box with the iPhone is a different matter.

Apple will most definitely include a set of Lightning earbuds. They have to include something, and an adapter just encourages people to continue using their 3.5mm products.

If this is what the actual plug of Lightning EarPods ends up looking like, that will be very unpleasant to use and try to fit in a pocket. That plug is pretty large.

It doesn't have to be. The DAC, et al will be in the volume control, not the connector. There will be a lot of different cable configurations, and a popular style I can see would be the right angle, especially for pocket use.

So instead of a DAC and map inside the phone you put one in the base of the Lightning connector, just outside the phone...

Wait, no, now you'll have 2 DACs and 2 amps, since the phone itself still has speakers which needs their own DAC and amp.

"Digital audio" does not make sense in the slightest. Audio is and always will be an analog thing. You still need a DAC and amp somewhere to convert the digital signal into an analog one for the drivers themselves to use. There's no benefit to consumers whatsoever, and it only forces people into buying proprietary stuff that works just on iPhones.

Semantics. As for proprietary headphones, there will be no such thing -- headphones will be digital, and cables will swappable for whatever device a person uses, from 3.5mm, USB-C, Lightning, etc. Some cheap earbuds will work only on Lightning, and Apple has no reason to give customers a set that works on anything but the iPhone, though it would certainly smooth the waters if they included Lightning to 3.5mm and USB-C, but at the end of the day, if a customer has those needs, they'll buy an adapter to use with Apple's earbuds or buy new headphones that better meet their needs.

My big question is about Macs. Is Apple really going to push a type of headphones that can't plug into Macs? Or will you also need a lightning to 3.5 reverse adapter?

Apple will add a Lightning port to all Macs after the 3.5mm jack is dropped from the iPhone. Older Macs will need an adapter, just like when they went from Firewire 400 to 800, etc.
 
Super interesting article. I mean, I had serious difficulty imagining what Apple earbuds with a lightning connector would look like. These pictures clarify it! :rolleyes:
 
Then when you buy 15 bucks headphone and find out it won't work with iPhone 7... What you gonna do?

Sucks to be iPhone 7 users... Not buying any lightning headphone. It is stupid.

Yeahs I'm sure going to be crying when I'm forced to purchase an iPhone 7 and the definite predictions for what will happen in late September as everyone knows exactly what they're doing in advance; Apple are the most transparent corp on earth!
 
Anyone who listens to music using headphones other than the ones that came with their phone will care. Some of us do care about sound quality, and we aren't going to put up with carrying an adapter.

I've bought each of the last 4 iPhone models, but I will not buy any additional iPhones if they ship with no headphone jack. That is a deal-breaker to me.

Lol. dude, I'm prepare to put money down you will own an iPhone without a headphone jack in the future.
 
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Can Apple please harmonize all its inputs outputs connectors adapters. This is freaking ridiculous. Get some standards going please, Apple.
 
No one wants to charge headphone. This isn't the way to go!

Hey, wait a minute, I want to change headphones! Speak for yourself. My headphones are crap.

Hey I just noticed you said "Charge, not change" I guess I should read the comment before commenting myself. But thank you for reading this.
 
Quite a few 'bad' options for wireless headphones under $20 I would imagine.:eek:
The original post specifically cited a headphone price of $15, so I assumed quality wasn't exactly a defining characteristic of the headphones he had in mind. I've got a pair of $20 bluetooth cans, and while they're certainly not audiophile quality, I'd pit them favorably against any $15 pair in both sound quality and build quality.

It's all what you're expecting. He wants cheap headphones that will work with an iPhone that has no headphone jack. Bluetooth is a perfectly workable option given those requirements.
 
My big question is about Macs. Is Apple really going to push a type of headphones that can't plug into Macs? Or will you also need a lightning to 3.5 reverse adapter?

Apple USB-C to Lightning Adapter, only $29.99!

For those with expensive cans? Lightning to 3.5mm analog jack adapter, only $49.99. Thinnest adapter on the market!

Seriously, the rumor that makes the most sense to me is that they axed the analog audio jack because they've made the phone waterproof. I'm not sure why a Lightning port is easier to waterproof than a 3.5mm audio port, but maybe they just wanted the fewest ports possible. If this is the case then it's a good trade off IMO. A waterproof iPhone with dual lens camera could be huge.
 
Sorry, USB-C is only $25 or $35 from Apple depending on the length. These cables also support USB 3.0 speeds, so I don't think an exta $6 compared to the USB-A 2.0 speed cables is that bad of a deal. You know aftermarket versions will be available pretty soon for less.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0X2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m?fnode=97
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MKQ42AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-2-m?fnode=97

As far as the lightning to 3.5mm adaptor I'm thinking more along the lines of $30. Apple already sells the lightning to 30 pin adaptor, which includes a DAC just like a 3.5mm adaptor would need, for $29. I see no reason they wouldn't be able to make a lightning to 3.5mm adaptor for $30 or less.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/M...104514a9fb2d931a63b7722f6e2fba72e229830b06d52

As far as these headphones go I think they are a mockup some fan made like the others have said. It makes more sense to put the DAC and amp in the same enclosure as the volume controls/microphone.
 
Sorry, USB-C is only $25 or $35 from Apple depending on the length. These cables also support USB 3.0 speeds, so I don't think an exta $6 compared to the USB-A 2.0 speed cables is that bad of a deal. You know aftermarket versions will be available pretty soon for less.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0X2AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-1-m?fnode=97
http://www.apple.com/shop/product/MKQ42AM/A/usb-c-to-lightning-cable-2-m?fnode=97

As far as the lightning to 3.5mm adaptor I'm thinking more along the lines of $30. Apple already sells the lightning to 30 pin adaptor, which includes a DAC just like a 3.5mm adaptor would need, for $29. I see no reason they wouldn't be able to make a lightning to 3.5mm adaptor for $30 or less.

http://www.apple.com/shop/product/M...104514a9fb2d931a63b7722f6e2fba72e229830b06d52

As far as these headphones go I think they are a mockup some fan made like the others have said. It makes more sense to put the DAC and amp in the same enclosure as the volume controls/microphone.

$29 is the most it would be. I'm expecting more like $20 for Apple, since a basic adapter only needs to included the audio chipset, and nothing else. Apple's 30-pin to Lightning contains the DAC/amp, ADC, and data and power passthrough circuitry, as well as a 30-pin connector which is in very low demand. Apple only pays about $18 for their entire iPhone I/O chipsets, so just the audio portion would minimal. Not sure Apple will offer a "multi-function" adapter which includes audio in/out, as well as data/power passthrough, but they might offer it as a more expensive adapter for those who need to charge their iPhone while they listen via headphones equipped with microphones, or use them with credit card readers, etc. If so, then there's a $20 & $30 model.

They'll also offer Lightning to 3.5mm adapters to use their Lightning headphones with 3.5mm jacks. That adapter might be very inexpensive, as circuitry built into the Lightning headphone would detect the incoming signal. If it's an analogue signal, then it would bypass the DAC/amp, and route the analogue signal straight to the speakers. That kind of adapter could be less than $10 from Apple.
 
Sorry, USB-C is only $25 or $35 from Apple depending on the length. These cables also support USB 3.0 speeds, so I don't think an exta $6 compared to the USB-A 2.0 speed cables is that bad of a deal. You know aftermarket versions will be available pretty soon for less.


Apple does not currently sell a USB-c to female Lightning adapter that would allow one to plug a pair of Lightning headphones into their Mac.

And I guess you've drunk the kool aid, because $25 for a USB cable is a ripoff, especially for the low quality cables Apple sells that fray due to insufficient reinforcement near the plug end. The plug end is also too small and slick, which results in people pulling them out by the cord, leading to more fraying.
 
Real or not, I can't help but laugh at the tech blog echo chamber decrying the removal of the 3.5 jack. This tells you the level of intelligence driving tech blogs. ...They all know each other, get chummy at events and all think what they say matters.
Nilay Patel being the main doofus on this one.
And they can't even adequately explain their gripe. Especially when not even knowing what Apples solution is. It's all just based on conjeture right now.

They are building a pre-emtive click bait of "outrage"

"How dare they!!"

Truth is, as long as the new phone has a pair of earphones, no one is going to give a rats ass.

And if you are in the hyper minority of .01 percent of the population who owns a pair of $500 dollar headphones to listen to music on a smartphone, then you have other issues and the money for an adopter.
Most people will lose or break their EarPods and just go to the corner store and pay $15 bucks for a new pair without any of the manufactured angst of the click-bait morons who run tech blogs. (Nilay Patel)
In the last two hours, I used a 3.5mm connector to connect my iPhone to my car AUX, my headphones to my iPhone, my headphones to an iMac and my headphones to my MBP. With Apple's brilliant move, all will be negatively impacted.

Do you know that last time I used a floppy in my mac, before apple removed it? About a year. Do you know the last time I used s CD/DVD in my MAc, before apple removed that? 2 months.

This move is not being asked for. And you Apple fanbois could already do whatever you are salivating over, with this idiotic upcoming move.

Screwing over customers to sell high priced adapters and proprietary peripherals - Apple, the new Sony!!!
 
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