We do not need smaller Dynamic Island , we need full screen without this stupid feature
It’s as if Apple headhunted the designer of the Kia Tasman, where rugged and ugly is the new black 🤣I cannot believe how they changed the Pro to be rugged and ugly as Apple Watch Ultra~
Yeah, I'm not interested after all.
I'll stick with the 13 mini for a while longer. We'll see what the 17e will bring.
- only 1% lighter than the 16e (165 vs. 167 grams)
- very pronounced camera wart
- camera bar isn't unibody
- glossy edge which I don't like
- eSIM-only in Europe as well
This is it ... this is what it's all about
iPhone 18 Mini
Apple Air 18 mini!
That’s the next “big” thing!!
You heard it here!
I think you mean Plateau.I just hope the camera wart gets even bigger next year.
I’ll be long in the cold, cold ground before I buy a foldable phone
My assumption is we're going to get that in 2 years for the 20th anniversary of iPhone.We do not need smaller Dynamic Island , we need full screen without this stupid feature
While the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max are still a year away, there are already a few rumors about the devices that offer an early look ahead.
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If you are skipping the iPhone 17 Pro and want to know about what to expect from the iPhone 18 Pro models, we have recapped a few of the key rumors below.
Under-Screen Face ID
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In April 2023, display industry analyst Ross Young shared a roadmap showing that iPhone 17 Pro models would feature under-display Face ID. In May 2024, however, Young said he heard this change had been delayed until 2026. If so, that means that under-screen Face ID could debut on the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max next year.
As a result of the under-screen Face ID, Young believes that the iPhone 18 Pro models will have a smaller Dynamic Island.
In May 2025, The Information also reported that the iPhone 18 Pro models would likely be equipped with under-screen Face ID.
Variable Aperture
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The main 48-megapixel Fusion camera on both iPhone 18 Pro models will offer variable aperture, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
With variable aperture, users would be able to control the amount of light that passes through the camera's lens and reaches the sensor. The main cameras on all of the iPhone 14 Pro through iPhone 17 Pro models have a fixed aperture of ƒ/1.78, and the lens is always fully open and shooting with this widest aperture. With the iPhone 18 Pro models, users would be able to manually change the aperture, according to this rumor.
A variable aperture on iPhone 18 Pro models should provide users with greater control over depth of field, which refers to how sharp a subject appears in the foreground compared to the background. However, given that iPhones have smaller image sensors due to size constraints, it is unclear exactly how meaningful this improvement would be.
Bloomberg's Mark Gurman incorrectly reported that the iPhone 17 Pro models would feature a "variable aperture system," a few days before Apple's event.
2nm A20 Pro Chip and Apple's C2 Modem
iPhone 18 Pro models are expected to have an A20 Pro chip fabricated with TSMC's latest 2nm process, which could deliver significant performance improvements, and Apple's power-efficient C2 modem for cellular connectivity.
Article Link: Skipping the iPhone 17 Pro? Here's What's Rumored for iPhone 18 Pro
Next year is the foldable
1973 carpet/couch green is being considered.
Lots of people feel burned by the iPhone 16 Pro Max debacle surrounding Apple Intelligence.Got burned upgrading to the 16 pro because of AI, so nope, not planning on anything until the 19 at least. Hopefully by then they'll have better colors than pumpkin spice.
Seriously though, for what I do, there's zero reason to upgrade the phone, especially with AI being completely MIA. Next time I'll wait for the software to actually ship before I consider a hardware upgrade. Had too much faith in Apple last go around and have real regrets about it.
Same hereCurrently on the 15 Pro Max. Definitely thinking about getting the 17 Pro Max.
The reason I would upgrade from my 15 Pro is the new 48MP Telephoto camera- the reason I won’t is I can’t get it in black.I have the same phone. What is so compelling for you that you want to upgrade? Interested to know your use case to see if it intersects mine.
You said it before I had to. Hello good ol' iPhone SE Gen 3... glad you're still going strong for me.I wish they would bring TouchID back. FaceID struggles so much in the dark. With Touch ID I could unlock the phone before I pulled it out of my pocket.
I too expect bend-gate to make a reappearance. I don't want razor-thin phones. I want a phone thick enough to toss a Touch ID power button on the side of it like the iPads have, preferably with a screen size similar to the iPhone SE minus the home button.I'm pretty sure the super thin iPhone Air is foldable as well.
3rd Gen SE has 5G and WiFi 6 in the same size case and for a fraction of the price of the standard iPhones.... but bad news is, it's discontinued. Snag one if you can find one.I've been rocking a 1st gen SE since it came out. I'm finally ready to upgrade. I'm torn between the lighter weight of the air vs the better camera system of the pro.
What about the ugly design?
While the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max are still a year away, there are already a few rumors about the devices that offer an early look ahead.
![]()
If you are skipping the iPhone 17 Pro and want to know about what to expect from the iPhone 18 Pro models, we have recapped a few of the key rumors below.
Under-Screen Face ID
![]()
In April 2023, display industry analyst Ross Young shared a roadmap showing that iPhone 17 Pro models would feature under-display Face ID. In May 2024, however, Young said he heard this change had been delayed until 2026. If so, that means that under-screen Face ID could debut on the iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max next year.
As a result of the under-screen Face ID, Young believes that the iPhone 18 Pro models will have a smaller Dynamic Island.
In May 2025, The Information also reported that the iPhone 18 Pro models would likely be equipped with under-screen Face ID.
Variable Aperture
![]()
The main 48-megapixel Fusion camera on both iPhone 18 Pro models will offer variable aperture, according to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.
With variable aperture, users would be able to control the amount of light that passes through the camera's lens and reaches the sensor. The main cameras on all of the iPhone 14 Pro through iPhone 17 Pro models have a fixed aperture of ƒ/1.78, and the lens is always fully open and shooting with this widest aperture. With the iPhone 18 Pro models, users would be able to manually change the aperture, according to this rumor.
A variable aperture on iPhone 18 Pro models should provide users with greater control over depth of field, which refers to how sharp a subject appears in the foreground compared to the background. However, given that iPhones have smaller image sensors due to size constraints, it is unclear exactly how meaningful this improvement would be.
Bloomberg's Mark Gurman incorrectly reported that the iPhone 17 Pro models would feature a "variable aperture system," a few days before Apple's event.
2nm A20 Pro Chip and Apple's C2 Modem
iPhone 18 Pro models are expected to have an A20 Pro chip fabricated with TSMC's latest 2nm process, which could deliver significant performance improvements, and Apple's power-efficient C2 modem for cellular connectivity.
Article Link: Skipping the iPhone 17 Pro? Here's What's Rumored for iPhone 18 Pro
Every new phone is!
This year, the iPhone 17 is the best phone they've ever made.
The 17 Pro is also the best phone they've ever made.
Additionally, the Air is the best phone they've ever made.
16's and earlier = pure garbage that are now obsolete and must be upgraded to ensure security and privacy.
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