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The new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max chips launched in stores today. If you are not planning to upgrade this year, be aware that there are already rumors about next year's MacBook Pro models with M5 series chips.

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It appears the MacBook Pro will remain on an annual upgrade cycle next year. Apple supply chain analyst Ming-Chi Kuo today said camera module shipments for MacBook Pro models with M5 series chips will begin in 2025, and Bloomberg's Mark Gurman also recently said MacBook Pro models with M5, M5 Pro, and M5 Max chips will launch next year. In fact, he said Apple's development of those chips was already near completion.

MacBook Pro announcement dates:

  • M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max models: October 30, 2024
  • M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max models: October 30, 2023
  • M2 Pro and M2 Max models: January 17, 2023 (it has been rumored that this launch was initially planned for October 2022)
  • M1 Pro and M1 Max models: October 18, 2021

Gurman believes the MacBook Pro will not receive any major design changes next year, with bigger changes like an OLED display and a thinner design rumored for 2026. The last major redesign to the MacBook Pro line occurred in 2021.

All in all, expect the MacBook Pro to receive yet another modest spec bump with performance improvements and other internal upgrades next year, and start saving your money for the two-generations-away models with a "total redesign."


Article Link: Skipping the New MacBook Pro? Here Are the Rumors About M5 Models
 
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I hope the MacBook Pro doesn’t get any thinner. We have seen the compromises Apple had to make before. A thinner MacBook Pro would compromise speed, speakers, keyboard or battery life. The current MacBook Pro is slim enough. If you don’t need the power of a MacBook Pro, you can buy an Air.
 
Do people think an OLED screen in a macbook is worth it? mini-LED is quite good and I kind of worry about burn in.

I'm on an M1 Max and will prob pick up a machine somewhere in the M6-M7 range I think. Definitely at least waiting for wi-fi 7 and curious what new AI capabilities might come out.
 
Gurman believes the MacBook Pro will not receive any major design changes next year, with bigger changes like an OLED display and a thinner design rumored for 2026. The last major redesign to the MacBook Pro line occurred in 2021.
In 2026 my MacBook Air M1 will be 6 years old.

I have a feeling it will still do all I want and need from a computer, but..., that might be the year when the temptation to upgrade overpowers common sense... :p
 
Question is, will mac mini get M5 or skip like M3?

I hope GPU is focus for M5.
I'm considering moving from a MacBookPro M1 Max to a MacMini M4 Pro.
I never unplug my machine...but want the better GPU.

I also have a MacBook Air M1 that i originally bought as a test when the M1 first came out, I'd consider trading it for a MacBook Air M4 to allow me to still have a portable machine while getting this large laptop off my desk for daily work
 
Do people think an OLED screen in a macbook is worth it? mini-LED is quite good and I kind of worry about burn in.

Similar here, I have M2 Max, and I am planning to hold out until M7 or M8 to upgrade. If OLED drops in M6 systems as this article indicates, that will give some time to see if burn-in is really a problem or if there are other issues (I am sure that people will stress test them to find out).

That said, I am looking forward to the day when OLED is the norm in MacBooks; I do periodically notice the blooming or slow dark-to-light response time on the mini-LED display.
 
I don’t care about the thinness of a professional machine, especially a ‘pro’ phone. I care more about performance and battery life over how thin or light it is in my hands. That’s why I went with the 16” M2 Pro last year. That battery life and performance is fantastic.
 
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Yearly is not too fast. A steady yearly cycle is perhaps best for Mac. Counterintuitively I feel biennial updates would suit iPhone better than Mac, as for Mac chip speed and chip efficiency is far more crucial than iPhone.
I'd say 2 years would be a good cycle, also for OS, just incremental updates for 2 years.
A new chip every year is a bit too much.

I might be the only one l, but ahuge upgrade each year is a bit too much.

Welcomed as it means the chip has potential, bit as a buyer.
 
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They are updating too fast…
they update the iPhone every single year. since the iPhone 4 we've got a new A-series processor in the iPhone. what's the difference now macs get M-series? i can kinda understand it because there was only 7 months between M3 and M4. Before that it was roughly a year and half between releases. M5 won't be out until next year so there will likely be a full year between M4 and M5.

stop caring about having the latest product. buy what you need and use it until it no longer doing its job for you.
 
Do people think an OLED screen in a macbook is worth it? mini-LED is quite good and I kind of worry about burn in.

I'm on an M1 Max and will prob pick up a machine somewhere in the M6-M7 range I think. Definitely at least waiting for wi-fi 7 and curious what new AI capabilities might come out.
OLED is the best screen tech out there currently. Burn in protection has improved a lot since early panels. We've had OLED in devices for many years now.

I've owned countless devices with OLED and used them for thousands of hours and I've yet to see burn in.

The only device I have that doesn't have OLED is my M3 Air. I wish it had OLED but it seems if Apple were to put OLED in it would raise the cost of the Air quite a bit and it's their entry MacBook so they will be waiting until it's cheaper.

I have 2 OLED tvs, oled iphone, oled steam deck, oled switch, my apple watch is oled, my PC monitor is OLED. Despite all my other displays being OLED the display on the Air is probably one of the best LCD i've ever used. The only downside is the glowing blacks. It's not really an issue unless I've got a lot of dark areas on my screen like when watching something with black bars.

Mini LED is awful and the sooner MicroLED comes out to replace it then all the better. Also then people will stop worrying about OLED even though it's a non issue for 99% of people. MicroLED is the only display tech that will beat OLED.
 
If the only “big” updates for a total redesign are a thinner design plus OLED, I don’t even care. Face ID isn’t that important when you often have your laptop hooked up to an external display and your watch unlocks it, the connectivity/ports are fine (idc about WiFi 7, and 3 TB5 ports has you covered for a long time). Idk what they could really add to a total redesign at this point that’d make holding off on upgrading for 2 years worthwhile.
 
People skip upgrading to newer Mac models but upgrade their iPhone yearly although not all does this but still...
Some people upgrade their phone yearly. I'm on a 16 Pro now - my previous phone was an iPhone 8. My Mac is an M1 Max MBP and I'm quite happy with it and expect to be using it for years to come - my previous Mac was ancient.

The yearly upgrade rollercoaster is stupid and wasteful (plus we get all these people saying "I see no compelling reason to upgrade from my 15 Pro to the 16 Pro!!1!", like that's a tragedy - no, that's how it's supposed to be). Upgrade when the previous one breaks irreparably or no longer meets your needs, not because you need to be seen with the latest toy.
 
I'm not all that interested in an OLED display, but if it could be as thin as the 2019 MacBook Pro, I'd personally be pretty thrilled. 👀

I think that was probably the best-looking MacBook Pro, even if the Touch Bar was one of those things that seemed cool but turned out to not be that practical.
The current mbp is the same thickness exactly as the 2019 model. Maybe because it doesn’t have the rounded edges it doesn’t seem like it, but they’re both identical according to the tech specs on Apple’s site.
 
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