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My maxed out M1 Max MBP is great - got a little glitchy after 15.1 install, but so far so good. Skipping the M4s.
 
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In 2026 my MacBook Air M1 will be 6 years old.

I have a feeling it will still do all I want and need from a computer, but..., that might be the year when the temptation to upgrade overpowers common sense... :p

Right there with you man - my M1 MBA is still fantastic, but I've been really liking the new MBP, especially now that a matte display is an option. I think I can overcome temptation this time around, but it's getting harder and harder!
 
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Two of the dimensions are limited by the size of the screen (until we get sci-fi-quality projectable / rollable screens). The third dimension is currently at 0.66" - frankly, it's thin enough - there's no benefit to making it any thinner, and it just increases the risk of bending it.
 
If the October 2025 MacBook Pro has the M5 Pro, that means the M5 probably ships earlier in the year. Given that the MacBook Air isn't on the M4 yet, that increases my suspicion that it'll skip the M4, and go straight to M5 around May.

Which in turn makes me wonder about the Mac Studio…
 
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OLED is the best screen tech out there currently. Burn in protection has improved a lot since early panels. We've had OLED in devices for many years now.

I've owned countless devices with OLED and used them for thousands of hours and I've yet to see burn in.

The only device I have that doesn't have OLED is my M3 Air. I wish it had OLED but it seems if Apple were to put OLED in it would raise the cost of the Air quite a bit and it's their entry MacBook so they will be waiting until it's cheaper.

I have 2 OLED tvs, oled iphone, oled steam deck, oled switch, my apple watch is oled, my PC monitor is OLED. Despite all my other displays being OLED the display on the Air is probably one of the best LCD i've ever used. The only downside is the glowing blacks. It's not really an issue unless I've got a lot of dark areas on my screen like when watching something with black bars.

Mini LED is awful and the sooner MicroLED comes out to replace it then all the better. Also then people will stop worrying about OLED even though it's a non issue for 99% of people. MicroLED is the only display tech that will beat OLED.
How is mini LED awful? It looks terrific to me
 
I dunno what they are going to have to do to get me to upgrade. I used to buy a new MBP every three years like clockwork. My 16-inch M1 Max shows absolutely no sign of slowing. Fan noise? What's that. Unless they introduce something really spectacular hardware-wise, I will using this MBP for years to come.
 
I only upgrade no sooner than every 5 years for phones, and no sooner than every 4 years for computers. Any sooner than that is pointless and a waste of money and time. My M1 MacBook Air with 512 GB SSD and 16 GB RAM is still performing perfectly fine and I won't upgrade until it breaks. However, the M5 Macs will probably have WiFI 7 and mobile modems, Retina OLED screens, thinner design, and double headphone jacks, according to the rumors.
 
Would be interesting to see M5 make it in the top of the stack to start: Mac Studio and Mac Pro. But they don't sell many of those by comparison.
 
The annual updates on a computer is so stupid. I got a M1 MBP in 2021 and just ordered an M4 MBP thinking with 24GB of RAM and current processor should last like 5 years. There is no reason to do annual updates. Think about all the resources spent on incremental annual updates that could be invested in making revolutionary updates. Same with iOS. just release the full update when ready. Not spending almost a year of incremental updates.
 
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Right there with you man - my M1 MBA is still fantastic, but I've been really liking the new MBP, especially now that a matte display is an option. I think I can overcome temptation this time around, but it's getting harder and harder!
I second that reflection ...
 
The annual updates on a computer is so stupid. I got a M1 MBP in 2021 and just ordered an M4 MBP thinking with 24GB of RAM and current processor should last like 5 years. There is no reason to do annual updates. Think about all the resources spent on incremental annual updates that could be invested in making revolutionary updates. Same with iOS. just release the full update when ready. Not spending almost a year of incremental updates.
There were a lot of people in this forum who would disagree with you here.

There were dark days at Apple between 2013-2017. Intel's chip development path couldn't keep up with Jony Ive's vision of thinness, and John Ternes had to get a bump and Srouji et. al started on Apple Silicon.

A complaint like this seems like an embarrassment of riches. Some upfront typers in these forums could stand to exercise some personal discipline—just because Apple rolls out new chips and products doesn't mean that you have to buy them.

If your M1 generation keeps working well for you, keep it! If you need, or want, a new computer or device, buy it if you can afford it.
 
Okay... They're running away with the rumors on the M5 lineup for the Mac already? People can't get a chance to warm up to the M4 Mac lineup or the iPhone 16 lineup without these so-called analysts for Apple products already running off at the mouth about the next "big" thing. I'm not going to listen to them. Just going to focus on learning and mastering my new iPhone 16 Pro Max and my new M3 Pro MacBook Pro 16 which is about 6 months old with all the latest OS and iOS updates. I'm good for now.
 
The annual updates on a computer is so stupid. I got a M1 MBP in 2021 and just ordered an M4 MBP thinking with 24GB of RAM and current processor should last like 5 years. There is no reason to do annual updates. Think about all the resources spent on incremental annual updates that could be invested in making revolutionary updates. Same with iOS. just release the full update when ready. Not spending almost a year of incremental updates.
Annual updates make a lot of sense re the production of computers. If there was a regular 2 or 3 year cycle for everything then there would be a boom and bust cycle of high sales with long wait times then low sales with producers having to lay off staff. There being a steady flow of improvements with people buying when they need something more gives a much more stable market for all concerned.
 
This was a mid-cycle update as it was more than just the processor. Car makers often do the same thing in the 3 or 4th year of a 5 year update to continue to drive interest. The 2025 Pros will have M5 chips, but basically be the same device with WiFi 7 and some other internal updates.

It makes since for the 2026 devices to get a bigger overall update and start the 5 year clock again.
 
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