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i will be buying it, finally will be able to watch all the videos on the bbc website and 4od via youtube

Agree 100% with this. Bloody annoying when you want to view a video on BBC but can't due to the lack of flash.
 
CNNMoney.com reports that a new iOS application from Skyfire that converts Flash-based video to HTML5 has been approved by Apple and will go live in the App Store on Thursday. The app, which will be priced at $2.99, activates a function that allows Flash video content in the browser to be sent to Skyfire's servers, converted to HTML5, and sent back to the device for display.
Seems like this is a copyright violation waiting to happen and violates Apple's terms for App Store apps. Only copyright holders are allowed to specify what format their content is distributed in.
 
this is great not that have a attachment to flash but for some sites it is perfect. also for all of you tht couldent find the good html5 porn sites lol:D
 
Skyfire works great on Android, and it should work great on the iPhone.

But unfortunately, it does NOT address the problem that the iPhone is incapable of showing Flash sites.

Which is why I have switched to Android, and haven't looked back. Those Flash sites actually look pretty good on the 4"+ screens most Android flagships have.... :cool:

BTW, the crowd which is so vocally screams "I don't need no Flash" is made up of the same people who screamed "I don't need no Cut&Paste" a couple of years ago. Some things never change....
 
If this is actually true, then you are clearly the exception to the rule. How can you not see that?

Just because it suits your needs, doesn't mean it suits the vast majority of others' needs.

You cannot seriously believe that you are in the "vast majority," because you don't need Flash.

The "vast majority" just wants their full web experience, just like on their desktop, and they don't care what technology it takes to deliver it.

Flash is the most efficient way to deliver rich media to the broadest market. (Hence its use for ads, among other things. If HTML5 was as flexible and as widely supported, the same ads would be done in HTML5.)

By using Click2Flash you are in fact in a very, very small minority, which most people simply view as weird. :rolleyes:

You mean there are still web sites that are made entirely of Flash? I thought we were in 2010, not 1999.

It's ironic you should say this, since most rich media attempts on my iPad look exactly like it's 1999, while their Flash equivalents on my desktop (and Android) are more inline with what most of us expect in 2010.

And yes, virtually all sports, media, fashion and entertainment sites employ Flash heavily, or are entirely built in Flash.
 
You cannot seriously believe that you are in the "vast majority," because you don't need Flash.

I do seriously believe this. Who "needs" Flash?:confused:

The "vast majority" just wants their full web experience, just like on their desktop, and they don't care what technology it takes to deliver it.

Agreed. However, I don't find Flash to be a major part of my web experience, therefore I do not miss any Flash content on my iDevices.

Flash is the most efficient way to deliver rich media to the broadest market (Hence its use for ads, among other things. If HTML5 was as flexible and as widely supported, the same ads would be done in HTML5.)

Most efficient? Not when it comes to battery life or CPU usage. So most efficient for.....your viewing pleasure?:confused:

By using Click2Flash you are in fact in a very, very small minority, which most people simply view as weird. :rolleyes:

Who views it as weird?:confused: That's an odd thing to say....

I never said the the majority of people use Click2Flash, I just said that I did.

What I said was that I do feel that my internet use (the types of websites I visit, etc.) is pretty typical of the average user.

Oh, here's my :rolleyes: for you.
 
You gotta admit, that's still pretty cool for them to do that.
They thought outside the box and within Apple's Box and are getting it released. Congrats to Skyfire
What are you talking about? Video transcoding has existed for many years. Skyfire has been available on several platforms before the iPhone.
 
And yes, virtually all sports, media, fashion and entertainment sites employ Flash heavily, or are entirely built in Flash.

Virtually all, eh? How about listing some specific examples of such sites?

Because I have yet to hit an entertainment or a sports website that I couldn't access on my iPad.
 
Ughhhh, could care less about flash video. That's all everyone talks about when discussing flash. I need flash to browse websites that use flash as part of the page content and can't otherwise be viewed. That's where the web developer has dropped the ball.

FTFY.
 
But unfortunately, it does NOT address the problem that the iPhone is incapable of showing Flash sites.

That's correct. The iPhone has a web browser... not a "flash" browser.

The same thing could be said for people using Lynx. If it's wrapped in a proprietary format, it should be expected to be universal. The web, however, was designed to be universally acceptable using plaintext, markup and common graphics formats.
 
If someone came out with a browser that blocked porn like you can on Safari I would pay for that. I've got two teenagers and I disable Safari and I'd like them to have the web without the filth.

They can have all the web without the filth that they/you want them to have if they simply don't go to those "filthy" sites. BTW, I guarantee you they can still get to it if they want to. Nothing is 100% effective.
 
Virtually all, eh? How about listing some specific examples of such sites?

Because I have yet to hit an entertainment or a sports website that I couldn't access on my iPad.

Hm, maybe you are simply not ware how much better these site actually look on Flash-enabled devices.

I'll humor you, so here are links to sites where Jobs is the largest stockholder:

http://disney.go.com/index
http://disney.go.com/games/?int_cmp...redash_gp__Intl#/games/play3/&content=1157187

Or go to http://www.pixar.com/ and then click on the TS3 Web Site button and see what happens (hint: it's all Flash joy).
 
The "vast majority" just wants their full web experience, just like on their desktop, and they don't care what technology it takes to deliver it.

Isn't that statement justnfull of irony, when the iPhone was the FIRST time the full web experience ever fit in someones pocket. iPhone was the thing that started full web browsing for mobile, and in fact Apples open sourced technology is the thing that has made it possible at all for other competitors as well.

Even more ironic that you say people don't care what technology it takes to deliver it, because that's true. Which is why I blame the web designer for not creating their sites content in flash and HTML5 for mobile. Since people wont care that it's HTML5, they just want the content, and the technology IS there for the web designer to deliver his content to iOS users. No matter how well you think flash on Android works, the fact is that it DOESNT, and it simply isn't practical for the large majority of average of consumers that use iOS. HTML5 is however, and it's up to the site owners to make their site content available for it. A lot of sites now have their content in flash for desktop users, since IE and firefox still dominate desktop, and HTML5 for mobile users. The mobile market certainly has boomed large enough to make that effort worthwhile. I think it's laziness when a web designer doesn't do that, and they just love to place the blame on Apple.

And don't think I'm some anti flash fanboy. Go back and look at my previous posts. I'm just realistic, and most of the blame should be placed on the web designer, not Apple OR Adobe, anytime I see the Lego box on my iPad.
 
I'll humor you, so here are links to sites where Jobs is the largest stockholder:

http://disney.go.com/index
http://disney.go.com/games/?int_cmp...redash_gp__Intl#/games/play3/&content=1157187

Or go to http://www.pixar.com/ and then click on the TS3 Web Site button and see what happens (hint: it's all Flash joy).

Not that I ever cared about lame Disney online games.. but guess what - Disney has an iPad-optimized website made of HTML5 and Java. Just tried couple of Disney free games, like Disney Match 3 and Pirates of the Carribean - they look to be Java-based and play fine on standard iPad Safari browser.

Pixar TS3 website seems to work just fine also - videos are available in H.264, and are playable on built-in Quicktime player on Ipad.

If these 2 are your best examples - you just proved that Flash is truly irrelevant.
 
i dont miss flash video, I just miss flash games and apps.

If this could do flash games and apps, it would be worth $24.99 to me
 
Funny that the BBC, being supported by viewer taxes, can't bring themselves to get their content to their taxpaying public.

Not sure I quite agree - the content is there. If certain companies decide not to support that then they can't help that. Its still a VERY small %age of all users that are limited.

HTML5 etc was not around when the current design of site was implemented. It may change in time but can't expect them to revamp it for a small minority
 
BTW, the crowd which is so vocally screams "I don't need no Flash" is made up of the same people who screamed "I don't need no Cut&Paste" a couple of years ago. Some things never change....

Well said! They are all lemmings and sheep that have drunken Steves Job's "no flash for iPhone" Kool Aid.:rolleyes:

You mean there are still web sites that are made entirely of Flash? I thought we were in 2010, not 1999.


what is it that you're smoking?:rolleyes:
 
Well said! They are all lemmings and sheep that have drunken Steves Job's "no flash for iPhone" Kool Aid.:rolleyes:

Don't be insulting.

I've wanted cut and paste on my iPhone from the first day I bought it.

I have not missed Flash on my iPhone for the past 3 years. There's nothing you can say that will change that fact.

And learn how to multiquote.:rolleyes:
 
And $3 to view Flash video off some unknown quantity's servers, which for all we know is a single PC in somebody's basement.

Unknown quantity?
Skyfire has been in business for over 3 years, Im sure they have LOTS of servers (they have had a Windows Mobile app that does the same thing for forever).
 
Stupidity by Apple man if they approve this app.
As Apple claimed that Flash video would kill the battery, don't they think that first converting Flash to HTML 5 and then playing it is going to kill the battery more?
 
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