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Skylake mbp
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Skylake is expected to launch the second half of this year, rumours are assuming that this will mean desktop and mobile versions but no one knows what models will launch like dual or quad core etc.
As for a redesign, I would say if Apple update this year then no, if they update next year then yes. I actually don't want a redesign as with Apples current direction that means cutting down on things people use like USB ports! And MagSafe. Can you imagine a £2000 'Pro' laptop with one or two USB C ports and nothing else!
The MBA will of course get Skylake if Apple keep it going, it won't get retina though I don't think, not with the new MacBook.
Personally I would MUCH rather have the current 15" MB Pro design and keep ALL the ports, fit USB C if they want but keep a USB 3 port as well as the others.
As for a redesign, I would say if Apple update this year then no, if they update next year then yes. I actually don't want a redesign as with Apples current direction that means cutting down on things people use like USB ports! And MagSafe. Can you imagine a £2000 'Pro' laptop with one or two USB C ports and nothing else!
The MBA will of course get Skylake if Apple keep it going, it won't get retina though I don't think, not with the new MacBook.
Personally I would MUCH rather have the current 15" MB Pro design and keep ALL the ports, fit USB C if they want but keep a USB 3 port as well as the others.
So you think they'd do that even in the pros? Get rid of everything and put in usb-c. Wouldn't that kind of remove from its pro element?
Well we will have to wait and see, Apple and Ive seem utterly obsessed with thinness over anything else. So no it wouldn't surprise me. Your talking about a company that removed the DVD drive from the iMac to make it thinner!
Its out this year, Intel have stated that already. All that is not known is what models will be out but I won't be surprised to see it arrive in Apple laptops by the end of the year.
Skylake is projected to be out in August, which makes any Broadwell quad-core MBPs kind of silly.
I would expect whatever the next rMBP is, it will be a minor redesign, that put some of the features of the 12" to be adopted by the rMBP. That means new keyboard, larger and new trackpad, which might result in a minor decrease in thickness, and integration of the USB C port. Also the back will probably loose the plastic, and be aluminum, maybe even a loss of the glowing apple logo.
I don't know if I would really count this as a redesign per se, because while it seems like a lot, it will not look drastically different, just as the 12" isn't drastically different from a the MBA. It's just a thinner version of the same design.
Nonsense
Some skylake will be out in august, at the moment all talk seems to be of desktop processors, I have seen no sign of mobile ones and Intel have said nothing about which chips will be available... If the quad core mobile ones aren't releaseed until next year Apple will want those broadwells...
Some skylake will be out in august, at the moment all talk seems to be of desktop processors, I have seen no sign of mobile ones and Intel have said nothing about which chips will be available... If the quad core mobile ones aren't releaseed until next year Apple will want those broadwells...
The key word: "Projected." Intel hasn't had the best record recently in correctly projecting availability.
No it hasn't but all of their communications have been on that the skylake chipset is on schedule.
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Agreed, the mobile chips may see a later date, just like how they're rolling out broadwell in dribs and drabs. Still, With Broadwell being released in June or there abouts (quad core), and skylake hitting the streets in August, Broadwell will have an abbreviated life.
I suppose the mbp hasn't really had any new designs ever. The non retina one still had the same design, just a bit thicker and with more ports.
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But I doubt they'd release 2 Mbps in 1 year.
Anyone know the order of Skylake CPU releases?
Just wondering what the order of Skylake CPU release will be? i.e.
will it follow Broadwell with: Skylake-Y (5W ultra-low power), U (c. 15W-28W), H (35-45W mobile - may not happen), K (65W unlocked desktop)
i.e. are we likely to see an upgraded rMB before a new rMBP (2 or 4 core)?
Just wondering what the order of Skylake CPU release will be? i.e.
will it follow Broadwell with: Skylake-Y (5W ultra-low power), U (c. 15W-28W), H (35-45W mobile - may not happen), K (65W unlocked desktop)
i.e. are we likely to see an upgraded rMB before a new rMBP (2 or 4 core)?
The unibody was probably the last major redesign. Then retina. Those seem like the two biggest jumps in the recent past.
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Usually that would be the case but, with some desktop Broadwell parts being skipped, I doubt that will be the order for Skylake.
Also, a Tock like Skylake can be rolled out faster than a Tick like Broadwell because a Tick requires shutting down, gutting, and refitting each fab. A Tock does not require shutting the fabs down at all. Obviously, Intel do not shut all the fabs down at the same time, so a Tick rollout must be staggered more than a Tock rollout.
I hope we get a good Skylake update with faster SSD and dGPU to maybe GTX 900 series, either way I love the 2014 Mid 15" I have, but I do want that SSD speed increase and better GPU (if Apple does something cool with it for a change.) I was going to return my Macbook to Bestbuy today (last day of return on my reciept,) but this thing still is a beast, so i'll use it for a few more months then sell it if the update is notworthy.
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They've done it before, there's no reason why they wouldn't again.
I think a redesign of some sort will happen with Skylake or Cannonlake. I'm not sure why anyone would think a redesign of the pro line would mean losing ports. The new MacBook has a different target audience than the pro and is not an indicator that the pro would lose ports. If Apple switched displays, they'd be able to make the pros thinner while maintaining the same ports and battery life.
The general trend is to replace cabled connections with wireless connections. Intel are making a big push in that direction with Skylake.
But that really refers to using WiFi and Bluetooth, not necessarily things like external drives or webcams. There are cases where hard wiring peripherals is necessary for reliability and continuity, and going all wireless then introduces several additional factors into the equation.
Everything so far points to the S Desktop series seems to come very early maybe before any mobile versions. Since S is mostly quad core it might also change the mobile release schedule completely around from what it looked like with braodwell/haswell.
But it is Intel. One is lucky if they keep their promises by the letter just so. Stuff is on schedule means nothing because that schedule could look like broadwell with some chips coming in late 2014 (core-m) and the rest like H coming at somepoint mid/late 2015.
i'm hoping apple doesn't force the "force touch trackpad" on the 15" rmbp. I'd prefer a physical click.
Unless it's much thinner, I just odn't see why we make compromises when one does not to be made.
Unless it's much thinner, I just odn't see why we make compromises when one does not to be made.
Reviewers (and everyone else so far) say that it feels exactly like a physical click, so why wouldn't you want a trackpad that behaves and feels the same as the one you own but also measures pressure?
Having used one it's not a compromise, it's an improvement over the current 'diving board' trackpad in pretty much every way. Might take a bit of getting used to for some people but I haven't yet found one instance of anything it does being noticeably *worse* than the old one and force touch - while still very much a gimmick right now - opens up some interesting avenues as devs get to grips with it.
As for a potential redesign I really don't know why some people think Apple would adopt the new Macbook design for the rMBP. We'll still have our ports, albeit likely modified to incorporate USB C. Remember that the rMBP needs to cool a fairly chunky CPU (especially in the 15" version) and even with Skylake's reduced power consumption you're still going to need active cooling which limits the size of the machine.
At a guess I'd say it'll go thinner, maybe with the butterfly keyboard from the Macbook. but it'll be a minor change in the bottom section owing to the size of the ports. Biggest change would likely be the screen, if they go with the same tech as the Macbook they may be able to trim the thickness of the screen cover and save on battery life at the same time. For that matter I wonder if we'll see additional design changes to accommodate Skylake's wireless charging. That'd let Apple move to USB-C for cable charging will still having a 'safe' option. Presumably whatever hardware is needed for that could maybe squeeze in to the chassis if the batteries shifted up a bit (which keyboard and trackpad changes may enable...
There is one big difference.
With the diving board pad, it's hard to get a click with reasonable pressure in the top 1/3 of the pad. The force click pad responds the same over the entire area. It's totally fantastic - in my opinion.
i still think it feels different. i can't turn upt he pressure high enough for it to feel the same. perhaps, if they add more settings.