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No one seems to understand that if there is to be a Verizon iPhone, there is no way in hell that Steve Jobs would let the Verizon CEO present it to the world. Shouldn't people know this by now? All these CES rumors are stupid and a waste of time.

And you put this is a thread on on Skype over 3G why? There was one other post about Verizon in 4 pages.
 
How were people making skype video calls on there iphones before this? My girlfriend claims she skyped with someone from there iphone to her computer before
 
Maybe better would be FaceTime on the iPhone 4 or touch 4 where you can throw the incoming video and sound to the Apple TV while the iPhone/touch remains as the camera and microphone and controller.

AirPlay won't work for this. Besides the fact that you really want a stable not a mobile camera for a living room/family experience, AirPlay works by buffering video - it's not instant - so you can't have a realtime chat with AirPlay because of the delay caused by the buffer.


oh, yes please! a camera on apple tv, so that everyone from apple or who hacks my apple tv can view my flat and whatever i (and friends and everyone else) does infront of my tv!

at least i can close my macbook and the camera is disabled. but for an apple tv camera it would really be another step into "big brother". oh, wasn't that the negative phantasy apple wanted to destroy in their 1984 ad?

and now they turn into something even WORSE???

Aren't you a bit paranoid? Who are you to think that Apple or anyone else for that matter wants to see into your home. Try encrypting your network. Oh wait, the real hackers can probably get around simple encryption. I think you've watched Live Free or Die Hard or any one of a number of tech thrillers too many times. The people who may possess those sort of skills aren't likely to be interested in your life.
 
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Just tried it on my 4g touch to a mac. I think it works much better than facetime. The speaker is much louder on skype compared to facetime and there was hardly any lag.
 
AirPlay won't work for this. Besides the fact that you really want a stable not a mobile camera for a living room/family experience, AirPlay works by buffering video - it's not instant - so you can't have a realtime chat with AirPlay because of the delay caused by the buffer.




Aren't you a bit paranoid? Who are you to think that Apple or anyone else for that matter wants to see into your home. Try encrypting your network. Oh wait, the real hackers can probably get around simple encryption. I think you've watched Live Free or Die Hard or any one of a number of tech thrillers too many times. The people who may possess those sort of skills aren't likely to be interested in your life.

(quickly grabs aluminum foil hat)
 
I was actually on a Facetime call when I read the announcement a short time ago. So, I downloaded it and reconnected with my buddy overseas on Skype video.

I'm on my home wi-fi, as is he. In our short test, we found Facetime to be better video quality than Skype. Audio quality was excellent on both apps. He uses FT with Snow Leopard, I use my iphone 4.

The interesting thing to note is that he mentioned back when we first did Facetime when the Snow Leopard version came out, was the video quality was better than we ever had over Skype using computer to computer with my Logitech webcam which has higher resolution than the front facing camera on the phone. Go figure.

Haven't tried it on 3G yet because my ATT signal sucks in my home location.
 
Finally!

I hope the 3G quality is good enough to use on the iPhone. I have found Facetime totally useless as nobody is using it. Everyone in my family here in US and in Europe are using Skype for calling, video and chat.

Can't wait to try it. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Not at all. Facetime actually works and works well. Skype has always been slow, poor quality and buggy, in my experience and after just updating the IOS version for iPod Touch 4, I find it now doesn't work at all! It attempts to make a call but fails to connect every time. So it's Face time all the way for me, Skype have lost it.

Seems to me like Skype would be an ideal acquisition target for Apple. It's the only VOIP company I know of that can truly replace a phone line--it has the skype-in, skype-out, and voicemail features that work reasonably well. Seems like integrating skype into facetime or the opposite would be a win/win. Apple could even sell a little usb camera for the appletv for the whole grandma seeing the kids thing.
 
can SOMEONE please tell me, if i call my friend in another country on my iphone and he is on skype on his mac, and I call him over 3g, will I get charged voice minutes? I think I called him like 4 months ago and I got charged $25 for minutes.
 
This is a crucial point, along with how much battery does it use when actually in use. Skype on OSX uses a lot of energy to do what it does.

Time will tell, I guess.... I’m watching Skype’s blog posting for comments too. (The comments on their earlier post detail the battery problems people have previously reported; search the page for “battery”.)

Sounds like there are probably two battery-life problems with past versions ...and I’d love to hear both have been fixed in this one!

1. The BIG problem (and it seemed to be true from my testing months ago): the Skype app seemed to remain running—burning battery, hogging memory, and slowing down other apps Android-style, even when not on a call. Just being logged-in/available was enough to keep the app burning away in the background (which I’m surprised Apple would even allow). If so, that is totally the wrong way to do iOS multitasking! The app should go completely dormant (frozen in memory but not running threads) like Meebo or any other IM app. Then, when a Push notification arrives, the app should launch if you take the call. With Apple’s Push service, there’s no need for the app to constantly run just to accept incoming calls. The iPhone is able to have dozens of apps and games all awaiting incoming connections 24/7 without any use of battery or computing resources. The unified Push service is the only thing that needs to be active, and it waits for all apps' incoming notifications. Except Skype’s? I’d welcome reports of battery life findings while logged-in but not talking! (I’ll test myself later.)

2. Reduced battery life when on an audio-only call, because the screen has to stay on even when not needed. Can you now talk with screen off? (Meaning: not just the proximity sensor, but locking the screen while holding the phone in your hand for headset use.) This wouldn’t bother me that much, but I know there were complaints.
 
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1. The BIG problem (and it seemed to be true from my testing months ago): the Skype app seemed to remain running—burning battery, hogging memory, and slowing down other apps Android-style, even when not on a call. Just being logged-in/available was enough to keep the app burning away in the background (which I’m surprised Apple would even allow). If so, that is totally the wrong way to do iOS multitasking! The app should go completely dormant (frozen in memory but not running threads) like Meebo or any other IM app. Then, when a Push notification arrives, the app should launch if you take the call. With Apple’s Push service, there’s no need for the app to constantly run just to accept incoming calls. The iPhone is able to have dozens of apps and games all awaiting incoming connections 24/7 without any use of battery or computing resources. The unified Push service is the only thing that needs to be active, and it waits for all apps' incoming notifications. Except Skype’s? I’d welcome reports of battery life findings while logged-in but not talking! (I’ll test myself later.)

Actually, that's the CORRECT way to do iOS multitasking.

VOIP isn't IM - it's VOIP.

There are dedicated iOS features that allow VOIP apps to run in the background - it's only correct that they use them.

Push Notifications are too slow and unreliable to use for VOIP.

2. Reduced battery life when on an audio-only call, because the screen has to stay on even when not needed. Can you now talk with screen off? (Meaning: not just the proximity sensor, but locking the screen while holding the phone in your hand for headset use.) This wouldn’t bother me that much, but I know there were complaints.

I don't think that's been an issue for several versions.

It's always allowed me to lock the screen during a Skype call.
 
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ipad optimized

epic as he is wise.

I pay for Skype monthly and, while I do not feel I am owed an iPad app, I do notice how crappy the little screen looks every day on the iPad and periodically search for better options since they have not delivered anything yet.

Even just bumping the resolution to fill up the screen would be a nice improvement.
 
Seems to me like Skype would be an ideal acquisition target for Apple. It's the only VOIP company I know of that can truly replace a phone line--it has the skype-in, skype-out, and voicemail features that work reasonably well. Seems like integrating skype into facetime or the opposite would be a win/win. Apple could even sell a little usb camera for the appletv for the whole grandma seeing the kids thing.

You're smoking crack. It'll never happen.
 
COME ON NOW AT&T What's your beef?

Come on now AT&T whats your beef.

Now there are several apps that do video chat over 3G. Yahoo and Skype just to name a few.

Why are you being so stupid and restricting facetime to WIFI
:apple::mad:
 
Time will tell, I guess.... I’m watching Skype’s blog posting for comments too. (The comments on their earlier post detail the battery problems people have previously reported; search the page for “battery”.)

Sounds like there are probably two battery-life problems with past versions ...and I’d love to hear both have been fixed in this one!

1. The BIG problem (and it seemed to be true from my testing months ago): the Skype app seemed to remain running—burning battery, hogging memory, and slowing down other apps Android-style, even when not on a call. Just being logged-in/available was enough to keep the app burning away in the background (which I’m surprised Apple would even allow). If so, that is totally the wrong way to do iOS multitasking! The app should go completely dormant (frozen in memory but not running threads) like Meebo or any other IM app. Then, when a Push notification arrives, the app should launch if you take the call. With Apple’s Push service, there’s no need for the app to constantly run just to accept incoming calls. The iPhone is able to have dozens of apps and games all awaiting incoming connections 24/7 without any use of battery or computing resources. The unified Push service is the only thing that needs to be active, and it waits for all apps' incoming notifications. Except Skype’s? I’d welcome reports of battery life findings while logged-in but not talking! (I’ll test myself later.)

2. Reduced battery life when on an audio-only call, because the screen has to stay on even when not needed. Can you now talk with screen off? (Meaning: not just the proximity sensor, but locking the screen while holding the phone in your hand for headset use.) This wouldn’t bother me that much, but I know there were complaints.

who cares? for those of us with kids and parents who live far away this is a killer app to stay in touch. just try to keep a young child seated.

i don't know anyone who uses skype as a primary method of communication except for international calling
 
This is sweet. The quality isn't great but come on, it's legit video calling over 3G that your mom and grandma can do. And it's multi-platform and plays nice in the sandbox with those inferior non-Apple products that are Skype-enabled.

My Fiance` and I use FT a lot but not when we're at work because of corporate firewall Naziness where I work and general lack of 3G ability in FT. Tango seemed like a good solution but also barfs because of firewall restrictions (she has no cell coverage in her location and needs wifi; I have superb 3G connectivity but Nazi firewall). Skype is the only solution thus far (sans jailbreaking) that works with her on wifi and me on 3G. Kudos.

As always, to each his/her own!
 
Seems to me like Skype would be an ideal acquisition target for Apple. It's the only VOIP company I know of that can truly replace a phone line--it has the skype-in, skype-out, and voicemail features that work reasonably well. Seems like integrating skype into facetime or the opposite would be a win/win. Apple could even sell a little usb camera for the appletv for the whole grandma seeing the kids thing.

Skype is owned by eBay. Sure, Apple could always approach eBay. IMO, I don't think it will happen.

On another note, I've always found Skype to be far more reliable than iChat... more often that not, iChat won't allow video calls, despite my cable connection ( home ) to be fast enough. Skype video always works, even though the picture may be degraded due to slow connections when I'm away from home.. I can live with that.

When iChat has worked, the video is slightly better than Skype.. but thats on the rare occassions of iChat actually making a successful video connection. As for Facetime, don't know anyone who bothers. Facetime client should be integrated with iChat instead of a separate app on OSX.
 
Sounds like there are probably two battery-life problems with past versions ...and I’d love to hear both have been fixed in this one!

One month ago I ditched a new MBA because Skype would create so much heat that the noise of the fan was bejond my comfort zone. About 6500 rpm which creates a lot of noise on an Air.


Will the new Sykype version still kick off the fan on a MBP/MBA same as the previous version?
 
Actually, that's the CORRECT way to do iOS multitasking.

VOIP isn't IM - it's VOIP.

There are dedicated iOS features that allow VOIP apps to run in the background - it's only correct that they use them.

Push Notifications are too slow and unreliable to use for VOIP.

You’re correct, but you’re also misunderstanding something (or just talking about something different from what I am). The iOS VOIP multitasking function is indeed important, but it’s for when you are ON a call right now. That’s all well and good.

But I’m talking about when you’re logged in to receive incoming calls, but not actually talking ON a call. In that case, there’s no VOIP transmission happening, and I certainly hope they’re not keeping an active VOIP channel open (which may be exactly the bad thing they have done—perhaps because it’s easier to do with their existing system).

Neither Push nor Skype itself is 100% reliable (and Push timing/reliability depends partly on the back end used by each particular app developer). But Push IS instant and highly reliable, because I engage in IM conversations with it all the time—hopping out of Meebo or whatever and getting the next message instantly. Push is not used during a Skype call the way it’s used (sometimes) during a text chat; but Push IS the correct and efficient way to receive an incoming call request. Then VOIP should start up when you accept the call. There’s no need to have a separate app running all the time simply waiting for requests because Push already does that.

So both Push and VOIP services need to be used for efficient Skype operation on iOS. And I very much hope that’s the case in this version! (But I won’t test until I’m at home and battery drain doesn’t matter.)

I don't think that's been an issue for several versions.

It's always allowed me to lock the screen during a Skype call.

Very good. I never remember being bothered by issue #2, but I noticed it in the comments from the iOS 4 update, and mentioned it in response to Emotion’s question about in-call power usage.

who cares? for those of us with kids and parents who live far away this is a killer app to stay in touch. just try to keep a young child seated.

i don't know anyone who uses skype as a primary method of communication except for international calling

Who cares about battery life? I care BECAUSE it’s a killer app, and I like the idea of having it without wasting battery :)
 
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