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Ah, thanks gents. So Ivy Bridge-E Xeon for the fall, Haswell-E Xeon next year. I assume Ivy Bridge will bring USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt to the Mac Pro.

Wonder if Apple will release more processors for a configurable tower for those who don't need server processors.

That's the million dollar question, isn't it.
 
not another

*Grumble gripe*

Not another thin fetish - hipster eating disorder inspired laptop gadget thingy sheesh

Lets get with the PROACTION program already and release the darn much anticipated come back / refresh of the eon a brand new 17 inch MacBook Pro, proper now please, my gosh. ..
 
I don't expect a rMBP 13" update at WWDC 2013 but we will just have to wait and see what happens. Definitely looking forward to iOS 7 and OSX 10 updates though.
 
Why can't they put Retina screens in the regular MacBook Pros and keep the line alive? I want a MacBook that has an optical drive and, more importantly, allows me to upgrade both the RAM and the HD/SSD drive over time.

I don't need to shave another 0.2" or 1 pound off an already ridiculously thin/light notebook by soldering the whole thing together. If I had wanted a MacBook Air, I would have bought one!

My current MacBook Pro has 8 GB and a 240 GB SSD. I need more space on both, so this week I'm going to pickup 16 GB and a 500 GB SSD. If it was a Retina, I would simply be screwed. I wouldn't have even been able to order the max amounts to begin with because Apple doesn't offer a 16 GB upgrade and I wouldn't have been able to afford 500 GB SSD at the time.

Apple: how hard is it to screw the back case on and allow us to swap the drive and RAM?

I hear you man.
Unfortunately it’s not that they can’t put fusion drive in the cMBP, it’s that they won’t. And that pisses me off a bit, even though I get their reasons - MONEY!:)

That’s why I’m very happy I bought my cMBPs when I did (about 1 year ago) - as much as I loved the concept of slimmer Retina Macbooks (more so that the standard resolution on the 13” and 15” cMBP, while sufficient, it’s still laghauble when compared with competition). But even the resolution wouldn’t make me go back to Windows.
I predicted then that I couldn’t have afforded a new (BTO according to my needs) Mac - still wasn’t sure if the cMBP were ging to be around. And now I’ve made my peace with the thought that I won’t be able to get around it at the time I replace my cMBPs in a few years time - that’s why I plan to get the most out of them until I have to jump ship to Retina or whatever else Apple puts out in the future. But we know even now that you won’t be able to upgrade it yourself and it’ll have not enough HDD (SSD) space and RAM for its price tag. Unfortunately that’s Apple. Figures that if you pay a truly premium price on a laptop they would put in some „extra” RAM, it doesn’t cost them that much. Oh well...
Anyways I have the perfect setup for years to come - 13” with an SSD and 15” with an SSD + HDD combo, because, believe it or not Apple, I really need to store something besides applications on my main machine, like music and movies! iClouds, iTunes match etc are really cool, but I’m just old fashioned and I need to really „hold” the thing I own.
But I guess Apple figured that people like me and the majority of its users on Macrumors are really the minority - most will do fine with the basic 13” cMBP, while the rest will go for the new eyecandy Retina whether they really want it or not. I guess it’s a question of competition. If you’ve used HPs for years and yet you don’t like something about a new HP laptop, you can easily go with Dell, Lenovo etc. But if you’re an Apple user then there’s no other way you can go without changing the OS. And most people don’t like changing their platforms, so they swallow the pill. Probably many of you have and many will (like myself as I said).
Hopefully they will lower the Retinas’ prices when they can and by that time people will have gotten used to the fact they can’t upgrade their machine by themselves. I’ll probably be one of them by that time. I won’t go back (in my case) to Windows, so I’ll just swallow the superb, yet non-upgradeable Macbook and buy myself an external hard drive. And I’m sure Apple will convince me that it’s the better way to go... :)
Only then will I finally have a thin, portable 15" laptop I can take the toilet to watch HD movies on iTunes! ;)
 
Actually, I have bad experiences with Sager and I wouldn't buy another laptop from them...


EVERY manufacturer has people that have had bad experiences....even apple. I would consider them, through exoticpc, over about any windows laptop.

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They are the desktop class processors. Not server grade Xeons which are suitable for the Mac Pros.

Ivy Bridge-E is projected to launch September 2013.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Intel-Ivy-Bridge-E-CPU-i7-4960X,22372.html

Yes, but imac was also mentioned. That would be the ones out now.
 
I only read a few replies in this thread..

Are people speculating now that Haswell won't be coming to the next MacBook Air/Pro/iMac etc. this June 10th?? :(
 
I think the 13" Macbook Pro Retina might be getting an IGZO display (Sharp has already announced they've started making displays in this size category). And since IGZO requires smaller LED Backlight to achieve the same brightness as Amorphous silicon, the display assembly will naturally be thinner, perhaps even thinner than the non-retina Macbook pro. A slimmer display clamshell assembly would mean a thinner laptop without redesigning the bottom unibody casing.
 
I only read a few replies in this thread..

Are people speculating now that Haswell won't be coming to the next MacBook Air/Pro/iMac etc. this June 10th?? :(

that would be a punch in their own face to not introduce haswell on the 2013 macbook when others already started on the COMPUTEX.

i'm pretty sure haswell will be included even if they are not ready for shipping immediately after the announcement.
 
Touchscreen would make a haswell 13" rMBP instabuy; I can't see how anyone -at all- could pass that up. Without touch capability, it just seems like a shame. Even if it ticks every single other box!
 
Touchscreen would make a haswell 13" rMBP instabuy; I can't see how anyone -at all- could pass that up. Without touch capability, it just seems like a shame. Even if it ticks every single other box!

meh ... theres such thing called "Chromebook Pixel" and look how many people actually using it.

Touchscreens are unergonomic, you have to lift your hands whereas using touchpads you don't have to.

besides, given that the only thing that holds the screen upright is the hinges, how long do you think it would last if the screen is prodded 500 times a day?
 
When I see Tim Cook speaking, he only talks about iOS devices. It is the bulk of profit for Apple, it's the reason why Apple is a giant now.

The media and the public do not care much about Macs either it seems. Apple had the biggest release year for Macs in sometime last year with the new rMBPs and the newly designed iMacs and nobody really talked about them.


It's not that the public don't want Macs, it's just that they can't afford them. If Apple brought out a reasonably priced Mac and did a little marketing the public would go crazy for them just like they did with the iPad etc. If the iPad had been $1,000 dollars, like people were predicting, nobody would have bought that either.

Now is the perfect time for Apple to takeover the PC market, as a lot of people really hate Windows 8, so would love a decent alternative... and OSX is actually more like normal Windows than Win 8 is.
 
meh ... theres such thing called "Chromebook Pixel" and look how many people actually using it.

Touchscreens are unergonomic, you have to lift your hands whereas using touchpads you don't have to.

besides, given that the only thing that holds the screen upright is the hinges, how long do you think it would last if the screen is prodded 500 times a day?

Touchscreens on desktops or laptops that are not convertible are questionable, it is too awkward. However the option is nice and why I like some of the Windows based PC tablets like the Surface, glass screen, tablet, full OS, can use a keyboard, touch or pen with wacom, has options for everything which I do like.
 
Touchscreens on desktops or laptops that are not convertible are questionable, it is too awkward. However the option is nice and why I like some of the Windows based PC tablets like the Surface, glass screen, tablet, full OS, can use a keyboard, touch or pen with wacom, has options for everything which I do like.

i wouldn't bet on that, personally i think there has to be a clear distinction between a tablet and a pc.

windows tablets are those example of computers which tried so hard to be everything.

the mac itself is pretty good even without touchscreen, the trackpad is miles ahead of equivalent windows PC laptops.
 
I doubt they would kill off the PRO users consciously, however, most of the stuff they introduced definitely has some flaws that past Apple-purchasers can't easily overlook. If Apple wants me to keep paying such steep prices for their PRO stuff, they need to innovate and build them towards the needs of a pro. A retina display and better performance is not something i would consider PRO. Also, slimmer is not something we really needed, when the old cMBP was pretty slim already. If you make something slimmer all the time, you sacrifice on potential options for internal components, which is exactly the wrong way to do it.

Apple needs to kill the old cMBP and re-invent a new retina PRO model line-up without compromises.

I want an iPad Pro, Macbook Pro and Mac Pro from Apple that really feels like I am owning something special for my work and the flexibility I need every day.

Thinner and lighter, I can't read that anymore or I am gonna throw up.

I totally agree. :)
 
Why can't they put Retina screens in the regular MacBook Pros and keep the line alive? I want a MacBook that has an optical drive and, more importantly, allows me to upgrade both the RAM and the HD/SSD drive over time.

I don't need to shave another 0.2" or 1 pound off an already ridiculously thin/light notebook by soldering the whole thing together. If I had wanted a MacBook Air, I would have bought one!

My current MacBook Pro has 8 GB and a 240 GB SSD. I need more space on both, so this week I'm going to pickup 16 GB and a 500 GB SSD. If it was a Retina, I would simply be screwed. I wouldn't have even been able to order the max amounts to begin with because Apple doesn't offer a 16 GB upgrade and I wouldn't have been able to afford 500 GB SSD at the time.

Apple: how hard is it to screw the back case on and allow us to swap the drive and RAM?

I completely agree with you. Unfortunately I believe this comes down to money. Apple wants you to pay their HUGE markup for memory or storage at original purchase. If they do not get the money then, they force you to repurchase (forced obsolescence) after a year or two. This will not be good for them in the end. Being a die hard Apple user and fan, I already catch myself looking at Windows laptops in expectation that the non-proprietary Macbook Pro will be discontinued.
 
Question: Is the current non-retina 13" MBP's RAM (easily) user-upgradable, or is it all through the Apple Store now?
 
Haswell power efficiency should allow for a 13" Air with smaller chassis and bezel, that could be priced at $999 with reduced specs, so the 11" Air could be eliminated.
 
i wouldn't bet on that, personally i think there has to be a clear distinction between a tablet and a pc.

windows tablets are those example of computers which tried so hard to be everything.

the mac itself is pretty good even without touchscreen, the trackpad is miles ahead of equivalent windows PC laptops.

I like something that can do everything if they do it right, that could just me want one system these days, sometimes it can be better to have at least a couple so one can get the best for each task. Apple could give the Macbook Pro a touch screen if they wanted to however it would almost be doing just for the sake of doing it.

Unless I am using a tablet I cannot see why I would want to touch my laptop screen, completely awkward. I do hear good things about the trackpad. The Surface Pro really is the first Windows PC based laptop that appears to be doing things right if that is what someone is looking for.

If I had my way I would want a gaming laptop with wacom, touchscreen at very high resolution, detaches into a tablet with its own power etc.. and can run Windows and OSX.......yeah, I live in another world. Be cheaper just to buy two or three devices to do all those things.
 
What's the point of slightly slimmer 13" rMBP case? Is it worth the added cost to change the manufacturing process? Apple has left the cMBP case exactly the same since 2008.

The rMBP case is slim enough. Any slimmer and battery life would suffer. And Apple has already been spending more on manufacturing and thus making less profit over the past year.

This part of the rumor makes no sense to me.

Apple is obsessed with making things slimmer, more so then any other company that's ever existed. They have never blinked twice at making something thinner, even if it serves no real purpose and forces them to make concessions with features (imac) It makes perfect sense for Apple.


The Air should get retina, or something else that makes it worth buying. I was planning of getting a new Air, but if all I get is a better camera, then I´ll wait.

Don't forget about the dual mics!
 
all i want is a rMBP 13" with a iris pro GPU

i see not much discussion about that here. all talking about SSDs, Displays, CPUs, upgradable parts and the formfactor. what we really need is a great GPU. dont we?


a rMBP 13" with haswell and a great GPU option would make me insta buy that machine. shut up and take my money.
 
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