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The thinner 13" rMBP makes sense because at the moment it is thicker than the 15". They probably are just able to make them both the same now.
 
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oh how I would love a retina form factor without a retina display on a macbook pro. I don't care about the retina display but the battery life that I would gain by dropping to a macbook pro style display would be awesome
 
I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.
 
I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.
What do you mean by linger?
 
I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

Yes most certainly if they let it 'linger' it will include a price drop, no doubt.
 
I'm still rocking my early-2011 15" QCi7 MBP because the 15" retinas don't offer a compelling reason to upgrade. The 13" MBPs - retina or classic - sacrifice too much raw processing power.

I realize I'm a distinct minority ... I keep my MBP tethered to a Thunderbolt display. Except on those rare occasions when it leaves my desk, a retina display isn't of much use to me.

What I would buy - in a heartbeat! - would be a sort of "super-pro" 13" rMBP with a QC i7 processor and discrete graphics capability. I could then replace my 2011 MBP and my 11" MBA, which I use for travel.

I remember years ago when new hardware was something to lust after. As Apple's focus continues to shift to iOS, I imagine lust-worthy hardware upgrades will be few and far between.
 
oh how I would love a retina form factor without a retina display on a macbook pro. I don't care about the retina display but the battery life that I would gain by dropping to a macbook pro style display would be awesome
I don't understand the dislike for the retina display. I personally think it's gorgeous and worth a few extra bucks. And after looking at it, I can't ever see myself going back to a non-retina screen. :eek:
 
I don't understand the dislike for the retina display. I personally think it's gorgeous and worth a few extra bucks. And after looking at it, I can't ever see myself going back to a non-retina screen. :eek:

exactly, my crappy desktop at work is giving me a headache nowadays. all i see is pixels


would the 15" retina also see a slimmer design as well? or any other tweaks or even prices?
the 15 inch is already slimmer than the 13. i guess they r just going to try to match the 15 inch in that aspect
 
Dual mic as a result of positive feedback? They had no clue it would give better audio? :rolleyes:
 
What do you mean by linger?

The article described Apple as continuing to sell it but doing absolutely nothing with it as they tweak the rest of their mobile Macs. The analyst essentially said Apple was going to let it die rather than killing it.
 
Apple will introduce a new category. A larger screen desktop iPad device. Apps will be custom designed to take advantage of the larger screen. It won't be a touch screen Mac, it will be an iOS device.

I would love a 15 inch or even a 20 inch iPad. Bring it on Apple!
 
This guy is actually VERY reputable. He was the first to claim that they wouldn't get rid of the cMBP last year and sell rMBP on the side.

Distinctly oxymoronic statements there. He claimed they were going to get rid of the cMBP and yet they have not. Sorry but that does not enhance his reputation. If they had actually did what he said they were going to do, that would establish reputation. He was wrong that the cMBP had a year to live.

there is a good chance he is also wrong that the cMBP won't get updated. With laptop sales down so far this year it seems a pretty bonehead move to assign "last year's" processor to your best selling laptop.

With the rMBP being 'slimmed down' it would seem like the MBA 13" was in a deeper threatened position than the cMBP. The rMBP 13" was already close in size and weight to the MBA 13". If Apple makes it even closer, what is the differential? If "retina" is squeezing out "normal" screens why couldn't it be squeezing out the MBA... it has a "normal" screen? In contrast the rMBP 13" was already more slim than the cMBP. a slimmer rMBP doesn't really do much since that difference was already established.

The MBP 13" fends off two sibling competitors MBA 13" and rMBP 13" and Apple kills off the strongest model of the three? That's a major bozo decision process.
 
I call BS on Apple simply letting the cMBP linger. There are three possibilities for it, and lingering isn't one of them:

1 - Price drop. Seems most likely to me - it would strongly resemble doing nothing because the only effort it takes is looking at how the price of components has fallen over the past year and adjust the price of the computer accordingly.

2 - Spec Bump.

3 - Killed.

I hope you're right. I think the cMBP is still a good proposition, specially for those who want to install a second HD and/or want a matte screen. But either with a spec bump or at a lower price. Selling last year's tech at full price is like begging for the customers to kill it, rather than having the guts to do it themselves.
 
He does keep changing his predictions though... to the point that whatever happens he will get it vaguely correct.

His predictions aren't typical "The next iPhone will be faster and slimmer and have better camera!" They tend to be specific and months in advance.
 
Because one can do a hell of a lot more than the other...

13" MBA: Flash storage, i5/i7 processor, Intel HD 4000, 7 hour battery
13" rMBP: Flash storage, i5/i7 processor, Intel HD 4000, 7 hour battery

Aside from small differences in processor clock speeds and the retina display, they are essentially the same laptop.
 
It is an analysts guess not scripture!

Didn't expect that. I would have thought they'd either upgrade and sell for another year, or drop completely to replace with the rMBP at the same price.
Before you get too excited wait for Apples actual reveal of the new product line up. Get excited on facts not rumors.
 
I guess that by not upgrading the cMBP to Haswell it would give customers more reason to justify the rMBP.

"oh the rMBP haz haswell, and its $300 difference compared to the cMBP"
Distinctly oxymoronic statements there. He claimed they were going to get rid of the cMBP and yet they have not. Sorry but that does not enhance his reputation. If they had actually did what he said they were going to do, that would establish reputation. He was wrong that the cMBP had a year to live.

there is a good chance he is also wrong that the cMBP won't get updated. With laptop sales down so far this year it seems a pretty bonehead move to assign "last year's" processor to your best selling laptop.

With the rMBP being 'slimmed down' it would seem like the MBA 13" was in a deeper threatened position than the cMBP. The rMBP 13" was already close in size and weight to the MBA 13". If Apple makes it even closer, what is the differential? If "retina" is squeezing out "normal" screens why couldn't it be squeezing out the MBA... it has a "normal" screen? In contrast the rMBP 13" was already more slim than the cMBP. a slimmer rMBP doesn't really do much since that difference was already established.

The MBP 13" fends off two sibling competitors MBA 13" and rMBP 13" and Apple kills off the strongest model of the three? That's a major bozo decision process.
 
When the rMBP was released; they should have relabeled the cMBP as simply the MacBook. The rMBP should have simply been the MacBook Pro or "new MacBook Pro"

This would have shifted undereducated consumers towards the rMBP because they would say "oh I must need the Pro computer, I don't want just a regular MacBook". As it is, they're just saying "I don't need that retina display, and this other computer is still 'Pro'"

Also, MacBook Pro with Retina Display is about the longest, filthiest, ring-less title ever for a computer
 
Distinctly oxymoronic statements there. He claimed they were going to get rid of the cMBP and yet they have not. Sorry but that does not enhance his reputation. If they had actually did what he said they were going to do, that would establish reputation. He was wrong that the cMBP had a year to live.

there is a good chance he is also wrong that the cMBP won't get updated. With laptop sales down so far this year it seems a pretty bonehead move to assign "last year's" processor to your best selling laptop.

With the rMBP being 'slimmed down' it would seem like the MBA 13" was in a deeper threatened position than the cMBP. The rMBP 13" was already close in size and weight to the MBA 13". If Apple makes it even closer, what is the differential? If "retina" is squeezing out "normal" screens why couldn't it be squeezing out the MBA... it has a "normal" screen? In contrast the rMBP 13" was already more slim than the cMBP. a slimmer rMBP doesn't really do much since that difference was already established.

The MBP 13" fends off two sibling competitors MBA 13" and rMBP 13" and Apple kills off the strongest model of the three? That's a major bozo decision process.

What's oxymoronic about my statement he clearly predicted last year correctly from what I've read about him in the past, please learn to read if you choose such words.

Source: https://www.macrumors.com/2012/06/0...ird-macbook-line-with-retina-display-at-wwdc/
 
He does keep changing his predictions though... to the point that whatever happens he will get it vaguely correct.

Yes, he does change his predictions because Apple is changing it's plans. Do you really think that everything which happens in the course of one year is fixed? This is not how it works!
 
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