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Slow SATA performance on Mac Pro in XP/Bootcamp
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are their any sata problems when using linux? all the software i need windows for, runs on linux.
I did the terra solution and it works well, but HD speeds in Windows are still way short of the speeds I get in OS X. For example, Rosetta Photoshop on the Mac blows away native PS on Boot Camp windows when doing the Photoshop speed test posted in the forums.
EDIT/Correction - I was wrong. I retested my Mac Pro in both windows (Boot Camp) and OS X (Rosetta) after setting history states to '1' in both, and the Windows setup smoked the Rosetta setup.
EDIT/Correction - I was wrong. I retested my Mac Pro in both windows (Boot Camp) and OS X (Rosetta) after setting history states to '1' in both, and the Windows setup smoked the Rosetta setup.
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I too was bitten by original bad instructions and a buggy nLite that can hang for two hours.
To be clear: the Intel drivers MUST be in separate directories within a containing SUB-directory of the Windows CDROM root. If you tell nLite to integrate the whole CDROM directory tree you're SCREWED! The insightful Mr. Terra made a huge typo!
You need only the 32 bit RAID SATA driver and (at least I included) both .../XP and .../XP/SP chipset drivers - exactly three - that works. Earlier posts give details I omit.
If it works, after booting to the final XP desktop and canceling two add device dialogs, it will say it found and added chipset drivers and it found and added disk drivers (with names you must know and love by now), and that you must reboot for it to take effect, do it! (I can't swear that it is required) After that do your boot camp driver stuff - the battle is then won!.
I too was bitten by original bad instructions and a buggy nLite that can hang for two hours.
To be clear: the Intel drivers MUST be in separate directories within a containing SUB-directory of the Windows CDROM root. If you tell nLite to integrate the whole CDROM directory tree you're SCREWED! The insightful Mr. Terra made a huge typo!
You need only the 32 bit RAID SATA driver and (at least I included) both .../XP and .../XP/SP chipset drivers - exactly three - that works. Earlier posts give details I omit.
If it works, after booting to the final XP desktop and canceling two add device dialogs, it will say it found and added chipset drivers and it found and added disk drivers (with names you must know and love by now), and that you must reboot for it to take effect, do it! (I can't swear that it is required) After that do your boot camp driver stuff - the battle is then won!.
Success, thanks to all the information here. (And the difference is huge, and feels worth the pain.)
I had some adventures; it took about 4 burns and 5 setups.
Among the tips from above, one I discovered late was that the driver additions in nLite should have precisely 3 entries, one each for
chipset XP, chipset XP/SP, and Sata-Raid.
That seems essential.
Also, the business about just going straight to a second disk, with all others removed, is very helpful, simplifies things a lot.
I had some fuss over partition schemes. I tried to use an OS-X formatted 3-partition scheme (all Windows Fat32), installing XP on the first. That gave problems... disk error after the first Setup reboot.
Deleting the previous (in a later Setup) and formatting NT also gave problems (more Disk Error... woe).
What finally worked was:
1) format 2-partition Fat32 in OS-X;
2) in Setup, Slow-formatting over the first partition to NTFS.
(I.e. just formatting, rather than deleting and creating a new partition. I tried the delete/create path first, but something about the way OS-X lays out the disk in the first place led to grief when Setup got its hands in there. Let OS-X own the partition table; let setup format within the partitions... that's what worked for me.)
Incidentally, I included the RVMUpdatePack2.1.1.7z in my nLite assembly. Gave no problems, and has the happy effect that XP isn't trying to autodownload all those patches one by one right now.
I had some adventures; it took about 4 burns and 5 setups.
Among the tips from above, one I discovered late was that the driver additions in nLite should have precisely 3 entries, one each for
chipset XP, chipset XP/SP, and Sata-Raid.
That seems essential.
Also, the business about just going straight to a second disk, with all others removed, is very helpful, simplifies things a lot.
I had some fuss over partition schemes. I tried to use an OS-X formatted 3-partition scheme (all Windows Fat32), installing XP on the first. That gave problems... disk error after the first Setup reboot.
Deleting the previous (in a later Setup) and formatting NT also gave problems (more Disk Error... woe).
What finally worked was:
1) format 2-partition Fat32 in OS-X;
2) in Setup, Slow-formatting over the first partition to NTFS.
(I.e. just formatting, rather than deleting and creating a new partition. I tried the delete/create path first, but something about the way OS-X lays out the disk in the first place led to grief when Setup got its hands in there. Let OS-X own the partition table; let setup format within the partitions... that's what worked for me.)
Incidentally, I included the RVMUpdatePack2.1.1.7z in my nLite assembly. Gave no problems, and has the happy effect that XP isn't trying to autodownload all those patches one by one right now.
chrismmx said:What’s that mean exactly: chipset XP/SP? I don’t understand it.
The instructions (back a few pages) talk about adding the Intel 5000x
chipset driver (INF packages) to the custom setup CD.
The chipset drivers you need come from a subfolder ./XP
in the intel chipset package. That folder has a subfolder ./XP/SP,
and you need that also.
You need the packages from both folders. So during the nLite
steps just after you point at nLite at your IntelDrivers folder,
you need to pick both of these, as well as the 32 bit Sata driver.
When it's done right, the last dialog of that part of the nLite process
will show exactly 3 versioned drivers (one for SATA/Raid, two for the 5000x).
Sorry I'm not more specific about names and steps,
but I'm back in OS-X now.
CyberPrey said:
4 go to "System Device", you'll see yellow mark on the device named "PCI Device", right click at the "PCI Device", select update driver
5 select your Realtek HD audio driver path and go to Directoty "WDM" such as c:\driver\audio\HDAudio\WDM and then click open
6 Windows will install Microsoft UAA Driver , and install your HD Audio driver automatically
7 reboot your machine again
i cant edit my post so i'll ask you here cyberprey...
did you use a seperate hard drive for both OS's?
reason i ask is because i have a 500 gig drive full of just mp3's.
if i used seperate hard drives for osx and xp, that leaves me with just 1 other empty hard drive slot that's open. if i partition the stock hdd, and put both os's on it, that leaves me with my 500gigger with mp3's and 2 empty slots i can fill with 500giggers. im not huge on external or else this wouldnt really be an issue.
any pros/cons you can see with having both os's on the same hdd?
thanks and gald to see your sata speeds are lookin up!
did you use a seperate hard drive for both OS's?
reason i ask is because i have a 500 gig drive full of just mp3's.
if i used seperate hard drives for osx and xp, that leaves me with just 1 other empty hard drive slot that's open. if i partition the stock hdd, and put both os's on it, that leaves me with my 500gigger with mp3's and 2 empty slots i can fill with 500giggers. im not huge on external or else this wouldnt really be an issue.
any pros/cons you can see with having both os's on the same hdd?
thanks and gald to see your sata speeds are lookin up!
I just want to make sure I did the nlite process correctly.
Can someone look at these four screenshots and make sure they look right?
Here's the link to the four screenshots.
What is highlighted in the image is what is chosen.
Also I never get that window reapearing to cancel it. I never have to cancel any window.
I just want to make sure it's all ready to go when my mac pro gets here =)
Can someone look at these four screenshots and make sure they look right?
Here's the link to the four screenshots.
What is highlighted in the image is what is chosen.
Also I never get that window reapearing to cancel it. I never have to cancel any window.
I just want to make sure it's all ready to go when my mac pro gets here =)
jansmith said:A number of posts on this and other forums indicate that only the last 2 drives shown in ss3 are needed. The rest look fine. I cannot confirm this personally as my MacPro is still "Not Yet Shipped" -- been waiting since 8/7.
Don't you mean ss2? My experience was that it works with only the last two drivers shown in ss2.
Related PATA performance problems
I did a reinstall last night with the new drivers slipstreamed and it worked great... for my sata drive. However, I still have poor performance (max transfer of ~15mb/s) for the Seagate 7200.7 pata drive mounted below the optical drive.
The device manager reports that the drive is using "UDMA mode 0", but the optical is using "UDMA mode 4".
Is this a problem that should be solved in a similar way as the SATA issue? Is anyone else having this experience?
Thanks for the help.
I did a reinstall last night with the new drivers slipstreamed and it worked great... for my sata drive. However, I still have poor performance (max transfer of ~15mb/s) for the Seagate 7200.7 pata drive mounted below the optical drive.
The device manager reports that the drive is using "UDMA mode 0", but the optical is using "UDMA mode 4".
Is this a problem that should be solved in a similar way as the SATA issue? Is anyone else having this experience?
Thanks for the help.
amin said:
Most instructions seem to say to click on "all" in SS2 though such as:
cyboman said:
I never need to cancel though. I guess that is what's making me think I screwed something up...and also that the only way to "save the ISO file" is to have checked make bootable ISO back on the same screen that you chose integrate drivers.
After squinting back at ss2,
just for clarity for later readers,
one needs to select three things in all:
the first entry and the last two entries.
The first entry 'IntelDriverA\32bit'
in ss2 is the Sata driver from the first driver subfolder you make.
The last two entries are the notorious 'XP' and 'XP/SP' drivers
from the 5000x chipset package in the second driver subfolder.
My attempts at using 'All' for ss2 failed,
but using the 3 selections (Sata, XP, XP/SP) worked.
(The notes just at the bottom of the dialog
are pretty clear - deselect the Vista, etc, drivers.
I followed the abovementioned 'select All'
from the instructions for the first attempts,
and then tried the specific choice later, and that worked.)
just for clarity for later readers,
one needs to select three things in all:
the first entry and the last two entries.
The first entry 'IntelDriverA\32bit'
in ss2 is the Sata driver from the first driver subfolder you make.
The last two entries are the notorious 'XP' and 'XP/SP' drivers
from the 5000x chipset package in the second driver subfolder.
My attempts at using 'All' for ss2 failed,
but using the 3 selections (Sata, XP, XP/SP) worked.
(The notes just at the bottom of the dialog
are pretty clear - deselect the Vista, etc, drivers.
I followed the abovementioned 'select All'
from the instructions for the first attempts,
and then tried the specific choice later, and that worked.)
for thoese whos curious
not sure if someone posted this already or not
but ive added a new Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATA2 drive into bay 2
and installed windows xp on that
using the method discuss earlier with the modded windows xp cd and intel drivers
and yea everything works great!
getting 79MB/s with the 7200.10
not sure if someone posted this already or not
but ive added a new Seagate 7200.10 320GB SATA2 drive into bay 2
and installed windows xp on that
using the method discuss earlier with the modded windows xp cd and intel drivers
and yea everything works great!
getting 79MB/s with the 7200.10