Slow SATA performance on Mac Pro in XP/Bootcamp

[toonerh]

Windows Device Manager lists 4 cpus, but the task manager shows that only two are operating.

Windows XP Home only supports the cores in the first CPU chip. Windows XP PRO, Server 2003 and Media Center Edition support all cores in all CPUs; provided, of course, there are enough parallel tasks to keep them busy.

 

[amtberg]

Windows XP Home only supports the cores in the first CPU chip. Windows XP PRO, Server 2003 and Media Center Edition support all cores in all CPUs; provided, of course, there are enough parallel tasks to keep them busy.

Oh damn, I'm a dumbass. Knew that but didn't occur to me when I pulled out that old (but still shrinkwrapped) copy of Home.

Any idea about the PCI drivers?

 

[damado]

Is it normal for 3 gigs to show up in OSX but only 2 in windows? I have the 2x 512 which I guess aren't showing up in windows, but the 2x 1gigs are.

 

[amtberg]

Windows only supports 2GB ram unless you add the "3GB Switch" to your boot.ini file.

 

[damado]

Windows only supports 2GB ram unless you add the "3GB Switch" to your boot.ini file.

Thanks much =)

 

[toonerh]

Windows Device Manager lists 4 cpus, but the task manager shows that only two are operating.

Probably you have installed Windows XP Home Edition - it only uses processor cores in the FIRST CPU Chip.

 

[toonerh]

Any idea about the PCI drivers?

If you have installed the Boot Camp 1.1 drivers, only a FireWire iSight and the USB Brightness feature of an Apple Cinema Display won't work. Plus, Micro$oft will attempt a crappy driver for iSight (although basically useless).

 

[amtberg]

If you have installed the Boot Camp 1.1 drivers, only a FireWire iSight and the USB Brightness feature of an Apple Cinema Display won't work. Plus, Micro$oft will attempt a crappy driver for iSight (although basically useless).

No, I didn't install the bootcamp drivers and I don't have a Cinema display. The problem is that Windows can't find drivers for the PCI bus, which causes video performance to suffer, and no doubt anything else I might install on the PCI-E bus.

 

[toonerh]

This one caught me.. Unfortunately the fancy "mighty mouse" that includes standard with the Mac Pro is * NOT * compatible with the boot installation process of XP.. ???!

Beg to differ, sir, but when connected via an Apple Cinema Display USB hub, the "Mighty Mouse" was not a "Mouse That Roared". Your nLite style Windows XP installation proceeded quite nicely!

 

[toonerh]

No, I didn't install the bootcamp drivers and I don't have a Cinema display.

If you have a real Mac, install Boot Camp 1.1 drivers; otherwise P.M. "Tom H" at insanelymac.com

 

[amtberg]

If you have a real Mac, install Boot Camp 1.1 drivers; otherwise P.M. "Tom H" at insanelymac.com

I have a Mac Pro, does that qualify as a "real Mac"? Is it okay to install Boot Camp drivers after I've already installed XP on a separate HD?

 

[Gilgam]

Maybe someone already noticed it but...on Apple Store when ordering a Mac Pro with the X1900XT it now show 2-4 buisness days... Maybe it's faster to cancel and to reorder

Arrh, wrong topic, sorry...can I delete or move my post ?

 

[amtberg]

I've tried nLite for slipstreaming the chipset driver and the SATA driver on 3 seperate CDs and have done a total of 4 seperate partition deletions, partition creations, file system formats, and Operating System installations. My HD performance has been fine, according to SiSoft Sandra I'm getting 61 MB/Second. I have conflicts in my device manager with each and every installation that I perform. I have attempted to run the installation package for the chipset which I downloaded from Intel a number of times and the conflicts remain. I followed Dysert's advice and did download the package for the dual onboard NIC and the driver has functioned for me, but it did not really help in clearing up device issues in the device manager.

The different problem devices in the manager are as follows:

"PCI Device"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 3 - 25E3"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 5 - 25E5"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 6 - 25E6"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 7 - 25E7"

I've had almost the exact same experience and I still don't have a clue how to resolve the PCI-E conflicts. Anyone?

 

[freezerburrn]

Being that the Mac Pros are 64-bit workstations, would it be in our best interests to use XP Professional x64 Edition over the other flavors?

 

[aiongiant]

i think the problem with that is no proper drivers for 64bit for all the other parts of the system

 

[frankie]

Why burn the CD in Windows?

Hopefully the guy from MacProJournal.com is still reading.

Given that OSX can read NTFS, wouldn't it make more sense to skip the part where you download ImgBurn & carefully make the slipstream under PIO, and instead burn the ISO using Disk Utility?

 

[damado]

For those that need a windows driver for the apple cinema display you can get it here

It puts a tab in the advanced properties of display settings for full control.

 

[Krevnik]

Hopefully the guy from MacProJournal.com is still reading.

Given that OSX can read NTFS, wouldn't it make more sense to skip the part where you download ImgBurn & carefully make the slipstream under PIO, and instead burn the ISO using Disk Utility?

Yup. I used Parallels on my MacBook Pro to make the image, and burned it in Disk Utility... worked just fine, and only had to install XP once on my Mac Pro.

Now for something completely different...

Beg to differ, sir, but when connected via an Apple Cinema Display USB hub, the "Mighty Mouse" was not a "Mouse That Roared". Your nLite style Windows XP installation proceeded quite nicely!

Uh, wha? Not sure what you were trying to accomplish here... Middle English, Old English, and Modern English don't mix too well when you want someone to understand what you are saying.

 

[janstett]

Being that the Mac Pros are 64-bit workstations, would it be in our best interests to use XP Professional x64 Edition over the other flavors?

No, 64-bit XP is a can of worms. Go ahead and play with it, but the drawbacks are:

- requires 64-bit drivers (your old 32-bit drivers won't work)
- Emulates 32-bit code with a VM
- Little if any 64-bit code is out there

Just run 32-bit XP for the forseeable future. Someday 64-bit XP will be a more enticing place, but not now.

 

[amtberg]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is bothering me. Does anyone *not* have this problem show up in the device manager:

yellow exclamation points by the following entries:

"PCI Device"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 3 - 25E3"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 5 - 25E5"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 6 - 25E6"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 7 - 25E7"

If you're new to Windows, you can access the device manager by right-clicking on "My Computer" in the start menu, selecting "Manage", and then selecting "Device Manager" in the left-hand pane.

The exclamation points indicate that devices are not functioning--in this case due to lack of drivers.

I tried to install them manually by pointing to the unzipped Intel inf folder, and each port seemed to accept them, saying they wouldn't take effect until Windows restarted. But upon restart the problem was still there.

 

[damado]

Not to beat a dead horse, but this is bothering me. Does anyone *not* have this problem show up in the device manager:

yellow exclamation points by the following entries:

"PCI Device"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 3 - 25E3"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 5 - 25E5"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 6 - 25E6"
"Intel(R) 5000 Series Chipset PCI Express x4 Port 7 - 25E7"

If you're new to Windows, you can access the device manager by right-clicking on "My Computer" in the start menu, selecting "Manage", and then selecting "Device Manager" in the left-hand pane.

The exclamation points indicate that devices are not functioning--in this case due to lack of drivers.

I tried to install them manually by pointing to the unzipped Intel inf folder, and each port seemed to accept them, saying they wouldn't take effect until Windows restarted. But upon restart the problem was still there.

Those still show up on mine. Not sure how to get rid of them.

I also get "Base System Device" under "Other devices"

Any idea how to get rid of that one?

 

[amtberg]

Those still show up on mine. Not sure how to get rid of them.

I also get "Base System Device" under "Other devices"

Any idea how to get rid of that one?

Did you install the Intel ethernet drivers? I think that went away when I installed those. Or maybe a better way to put it: is your ethernet working under windows?

 

[Fedge]

I'm having a little issue with my audio driver. I downloaded the RealTek driver, but it won't install. When installing the Realtek HD Audio driver, i get an error that says:

"Warning: Microsoft Bus driver should be loaded in your system before installing Realtek HD audio driver!"

Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.

 

[damado]

Did you install the Intel ethernet drivers? I think that went away when I installed those. Or maybe a better way to put it: is your ethernet working under windows?

Hmm, I haven't tried...my router is in the other room =/

I'm having a little issue with my audio driver. I downloaded the RealTek driver, but it won't install. When installing the Realtek HD Audio driver, i get an error that says:

"Warning: Microsoft Bus driver should be loaded in your system before installing Realtek HD audio driver!"

Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks.

Fedge, do you see an audio driver in other devices? I remember I installed some driver (bootcamp CD? not sure) and it made that audio one appear up there...THEN I installed the realtek HD drivers.

 

[Fedge]

Fedge, do you see an audio driver in other devices? I remember I installed some driver (bootcamp CD? not sure) and it made that audio one appear up there...THEN I installed the realtek HD drivers.

No. The only yellow exclamation I see is "Base System Device".