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Slow SATA performance on Mac Pro in XP/Bootcamp

i installed bootcamp on my Mac Pro it gets about 3.6mb/sec speed for the hdd
but some ppl have posted running it on an external drive.. so i checked how fast my external drive using usb2 is running at and it's going about 25mb/sec
gonna try installing windows xp on the external drive and should be alot better performance than the internal sata until they figure out how to get it working properly
 
aiongiant said:
i installed bootcamp on my Mac Pro it gets about 3.6mb/sec speed for the hdd
but some ppl have posted running it on an external drive.. so i checked how fast my external drive using usb2 is running at and it's going about 25mb/sec
gonna try installing windows xp on the external drive and should be alot better performance than the internal sata until they figure out how to get it working properly
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Let us know how that works!
 
after a few tinkering around i got windows xp to finally recognize the drive and copy some installation files...but when it reboots to start installation i get the blue screen!!! booo i dunno how to fix it.. anyone have similar problems?:confused:
 
Salut ChrisMMX ;)

Je ne pense pas que ça fasse avancer le chmilblic, étant donné qu'on ne fait que contourner le pb. A défaut, ca peut permettre d'utiliser un disque SATA sur le port IDE du MacPro, mais c'est bien tout ;)

English version :)D) :

I don't think that you would take any advantage with this adaptor, at least, use a SATA drive with the second IDE connector in the MacPro... but not more ;)
 
Salut origin,

c'est vrai que ça ne fait pas avancer. Mais au moin ça doit marcher juste pour attendre la solution officielle d'Apple.

moi je n'ai que des DD SATA, c'est pour ça que je ne peux pas commander mon MacPro pour le moment, ça me casse:mad: J'ai attendu deux ans pour une solution win-osx, et voilà! finalement, ça ne marche pas encore parfaitement!:mad:

English version (forgive me my poor english):confused:
i know that would take any advantage, pas at least i hink it's a solution before apple's offical solution.
 
I really don't understand what the fuss is all about. I mean its definately a driver issue since OS X doesn't have these problems. And, yes Apple will definately fix it when leopard(and the final version of bootcamp) comes out. Before that might I politely remind everyone here that BootCamp is still in BETA! That means certain things still don't work. Cut Apple some slck man. You can't expect to buy the latest and greatest hardware from Apple and expect BETA software to work flawlessly. Yes, please email Apple about how they can better improve the software but getting pissed just coz you can't run windows is ludicrous IMO!
 
It's not ludicrous, it's just a technical issue that some of us would like to see fixed soon because we juste NEED the dual boot in good conditions, I.E. with a Windows OS fully functionnal. If you're not concerned, then leave this thread.
 
darkcurse said:
I really don't understand what the fuss is all about. I mean its definately a driver issue since OS X doesn't have these problems. And, yes Apple will definately fix it when leopard(and the final version of bootcamp) comes out. Before that might I politely remind everyone here that BootCamp is still in BETA! That means certain things still don't work. Cut Apple some slck man. You can't expect to buy the latest and greatest hardware from Apple and expect BETA software to work flawlessly. Yes, please email Apple about how they can better improve the software but getting pissed just coz you can't run windows is ludicrous IMO!
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:D just calm down, i use mac osx, but i have my require to windows too.;)
however it's apple's responsibility! coz even Bootcamp is BETA, it's a apple's software:p

take it easy:D
 
Yes this is a technical issue. But Running windows on a mac is NOT I REPEAT NOT an Apple advertised use of the machine as yet! And you do realize you all are basically guinea pigs "testing" bootcamp out. All of you obsessing about running windows now just boggles my mind. Apple WILL resolve the issue by updating the drivers. Just wait patiently is all I can say. I mean when they updated bootcamp to version 1.1 they added in support for the built-in iSights for iMacs, MacBooks and macBook Pros. I wasn't expecting them to ever do that so soon but they did. So, have a little faith in Apple people. Because at the end of the day, it will be fixed just don't obsess about it so much. Macs run Mac OSX. The fact that they can run windows now(albeit with a few quirks) is just a testament of Apple's goodwill. All I'm saying is that I feel for you since you got a beast of a machine which promises much. But cut them some slack. I'm sure they are working on it and who knows, a driver update might come out before Leopard launches :)
 
darkcurse said:
But Running windows on a mac is NOT I REPEAT NOT an Apple advertised use of the machine as yet!
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It most certainly is. But let's please not get into this debate again...
 
just calm down, otherwise the webmaster will shut down this thread, ok?

eveyboby has his unique require, if you don't like it, let it go, you can't force other persOn to take your opinion. we are in a DEMOCRACY society. ;)

WOULD YOU PLEASE JUSTE CALM DOWN?
 
Yeah if it satisfies your geeky nature try all the hacks you want. I pity the guy who hacked the EFI so that we had a hope of installing windows on the new Intel Macs only to have Apple launch the BootCamp beta program like a few weeks after. Hmm, nowhere on the MacPro's pages do I see any sign of Windows. Even on Apple's BootCamp page it says

More and more people are buying and loving Macs. To make this choice simply irresistible, Apple will include technology in the next major release of Mac OS X, Leopard, that lets you install and run the Windows XP operating system on your Mac. Called Boot Camp, you can download a public beta today.
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So uh yeah, Windows on a Mac... Not fully operational yet.
 
Origin said:
I did not know that is was forbbiden to try some hacks while "patiently" waiting for the Apple fix.

Thx a lot for the info :D
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i think we CAN talk about it, because the subjet is (Slow SATA performance on Mac Pro in XP/Bootcamp Reply to Thread), i juste propose some temporary solution:D it's absolutely NOT hacks. tu rigole!:D
 
I think you all need to take some asprin and try to relax...

1. Bootcamp is BETA... its bugged, its not perfect, it is a work in progress...
2. Apple DOES want to allow the use of windows on their hardware
3. The Mac Pro, while a FANTASTIC machine, has slow hard drive operation under windows.

3 points, all true.

Yes, we can all try whatever we want to make windows performance more acceptable... go for it. Its YOUR machine, try what you want. No one can argue that point... you bought it, its yours, play with it....

Yes, Bootcamp is BETA. That means it is NOT a finished product. Getting mad because BETA software does not perform is really rather foolish and just not very well thought out. Instead of getting mad, write to apple and explain the issue you are having, and point out WHY getting it resolved in an update of bootcamp would be beneficial to you AND to Apple.....

And Yes, Apple DOES want people to have the ability to run Windows on their hardware. It is a MAJOR breakthrough for them, because they realize how many people LOVE their hardware, but want the software utopia of the windows universe. Apple see's this, they have acknowledged this, and they ARE going to make it work. Anyone who feels apple is going to let the mac pro have slow sata performance forever is foolishly living in an alternate universe. Apple will correct the issue, because it is VERY beneficial for them.

Relax, it will all work out. In the meantime, try whatever you want to fix it.. but don't bust Apple's chops about it, and don't bust other peoples chops over it....

And yes, I am incredibly impatient for the SATA fix.. I'm a total gamer.. and I gave up a SWEET gaming rig to get my Mac Pro.. and I have not had my guild wars fix in a long time..... GAHHHH!!!!!!
 
CyberPrey said:
Relax, it will all work out. In the meantime, try whatever you want to fix it.. but don't bust Apple's chops about it, and don't bust other peoples chops over it....
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i just expecting apple's solution, and before that, i juste want to try some solution for everybody here, just like the others persons here. did i HURT some one?
 
While I agree that Apple should try to get a working hard drive driver out, well actually Intel should, if people want to run Windows at the moment then installing a cheap or spare ATA133 drive in the spare Superdrive slot should do the job and you can pick a small hard drive for very little. No offence, but if you're spending over $2000 on a computer then $50 for an 80gb ATA hard drive isn't exactly a lot. You can always sell it on eBay or put it in an external case afterwards.
 
chrismmx said:
i just expecting apple's solution, and before that, i juste want to try some solution for everybody here, just like the others persons here. did i HURT some one?
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Feeling guilty over something? :eek: did I mention your name? :D

My thought was it was a GENERAL post to everyone getting very avid over each side of the "discussion"
 
darkcurse said:
Yeah if it satisfies your geeky nature try all the hacks you want. I pity the guy who hacked the EFI so that we had a hope of installing windows on the new Intel Macs only to have Apple launch the BootCamp beta program like a few weeks after.
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PITY???!?? Dont forget, those guys who put on XP-on-Mac did win over $10,000 USD!

I agree with those that say dont blame Apple. Its BETA software running an unsupported operatiing system. We shoudl be grateful apple even released bootcamp, XP on Mac was no nearly as elegant or well-working.

That being said, Ill grab a MacPro once this SATA thing gets fixed :D
 
RichP said:
PITY???!?? Dont forget, those guys who put on XP-on-Mac did win over $10,000 USD!
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I think the XP-On-Mac contest actually pushed Apple's hand to release Boot Camp earlier than planned. Apple really didn't want people hacking the EFI, and they knew how popular the XP On Mac project was. So they released Boot Camp to retain control over EFI and the platform, in general. If the XP On Mac EFI hack never came into existance, I don't think we would have seen Boot Camp until now, with the WWDC developer preview, if not even later. It could have been one of the major features that Apple decided to keep private until later in the year.
 
To anyone even *thinking* of posting to this thread, post #117 is required reading.
 
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