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Slow SATA performance on Mac Pro in XP/Bootcamp

What about other machines that use this intel chipset? How do you install windows on them without slipstreaming the XP disk?

This seems like its an windows/intel problem more than apples problem.
 
i had no problems with installing bootcamp windows xp sp2 onto my MBP
didn't have to slipstream it with any other drivers
 
RichP said:
What about other machines that use this intel chipset? How do you install windows on them without slipstreaming the XP disk?

This seems like its an windows/intel problem more than apples problem.
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Although Boot Camp is still in Beta and will prepetually be in BETA (since it allows Apple to not have to support the software), This is not a fault of MS. Apple's choice of server hardware for the MAC PRO requires the pre-installation of AHCI drivers for Windows through the F6 install method. Unless there is a workaround I cannot see how this will be possible. You cannot assign blame to Intel/MS for this one. It's just going to take some time.
 
Can anyone who has successfully tried this new method of XP2 installation please post the download links here??

The page doesn't show correctly and I can't see any links! Just underlined text!!!

Million thanks!!
 
kkapoor said:
This is not a fault of MS. Apple's choice of server hardware for the MAC PRO requires the pre-installation of AHCI drivers for Windows through the F6 install method.
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What exactly makes it necessary to install the drivers that way though? And what do you mean by F6 install method? Just curious, I haven't done much driver installation with Windows.

I'm wondering what steps on that page (http://web.mac.com/terrabit/iWeb/macpro/xp.html) are really required. It's basically just the Intel 631xESB chipset SATA drivers that are required, assuming you already have a driver disc burned from BootCamp 1.1, right? Aren't the 5000X chipset drivers included with that? Any way to "pre-install" the drivers without burning a custom install disc?
 
Could someone possibly create a PPF patch file that would patch a Windows ISO to the patched version required for installation. That could help a lot of people out here and if you've already done the patching then it wouldn't take very long to do. It wouldn't be illegal because you wouldn't be supplying a working Windows iso, just the patch to run on an image file that someone could have ripped from their own legitimate disk.
 
When I said chipset, I meant other xeon based machines and motherboards using the intel Intel 631xESB chipset.

Why cant the F6 method be used when installing on a MacPro? (F6 method is when you go through the intial install (blue screen) in Windows, where is says "Press F6 if you need to install any 3rd party drivers")

Bootcamp provides drivers AFTER the install, not before it. Windows will use generic driver to get things running, then you install the drivers from bootcamp to have things optimized correctly.
 
RichP said:
Why cant the F6 method be used when installing on a MacPro?

Bootcamp provides drivers AFTER the install, not before it. Windows will use generic driver to get things running, then you install the drivers from bootcamp to have things optimized correctly.
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So is that a rhetorical question? Sorry I can't tell. :) What I wanted to know is if the F6 method works, rather than having to burn a custom XP install disc, and also if anyone knows why the SATA drivers don't seem to work if you install them after Windows has been installed.
 
Mr. Mister said:
http://web.mac.com/terrabit/iWeb/macpro/xp.html

That seems to bring it up to DMA 4 and faster than IDE with no futzing around inside the Mac Pro's case even.
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Warning. When I follow the instructions by going to download WPA_Kill from filewatcher (I don't know what this site or this WPA_Kill are), Symantec detects a "high risk" virus called "Hacktool" :mad: . Not sure of the significance of this, but thought I should put it out there.

Edit - Does anyone know which parts of those instructions are actually necessary? I don't need to kill WPA (figured out what that means) or anything else similar. I just want Windows to run at a decent clip in Boot Camp!
 
apfhex said:
So is that a rhetorical question? Sorry I can't tell. :) What I wanted to know is if the F6 method works, rather than having to burn a custom XP install disc, and also if anyone knows why the SATA drivers don't seem to work if you install them after Windows has been installed.
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The F6 method works but you need a floppy disk which obviously the macs don't have, maybe you could do it with an external usb floppy, just write the SATA drivers to the floppy, reinstall windows and use the "F6 method" for the drivers.
 
you don't need to download any of thoese files
the WPA_Kill and the RemoveWGA thing
as thoese you won't use for this custom xp dealio

they are hack tools i belive for Windows Geniune thing?

Chone said:
The F6 method works but you need a floppy disk which obviously the macs don't have, maybe you could do it with an external usb floppy, just write the SATA drivers to the floppy, reinstall windows and use the "F6 method" for the drivers.
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yea it should work if you have an external floppy i dont' see why not
 
Could windows read a flash drive instead of the floppy?

Can someone explain why installing them during initial install is the only way it will work?
 
t0pcat said:
*CONFIRMED*

TERRABIT has fixed the issue reload and now i get great speeds:D
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Did you follow all of his instructions, or just slipstream the drivers into the installation disk?
 
jlmodell said:
Worked perfectly for me! Thanks!

I skipped everything except for the part about slip streaming the intel drivers to my disc...
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Thank you, the screenshot is a nice touch! Two questions for you:

1) Did you slipstream the 631xESB chipset SATA drivers only, or did you also slipstream the Intel 5000x chipset drivers?

2) Did you install Windows using Bootcamp?

Thanks again.
 
amin said:
Thank you, the screenshot is a nice touch! Two questions for you:

1) Did you slipstream the 631xESB chipset SATA drivers only, or did you also slipstream the Intel 5000x chipset drivers?

2) Did you install Windows using Bootcamp?

Thanks again.
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I added both, and used bootcamp assistant to start the installation.

I also fixed my sound problem via simple googling. I wonder if other ppl had the same problem b/c it seems to be caused by installing the chipset before SP2.

"...

4 go to "System Device", you'll see yellow mark on the device named "PCI Device", right click at the "PCI Device", select update driver

5 select your Realtek HD audio driver path and go to Directoty "WDM" such as c:\driver\audio\HDAudio\WDM and then click open

6 Windows will install Microsoft UAA Driver , and install your HD Audio driver automatically

7 reboot your machine again

8 enjoy your cool music"
 
Other question -

Which SATA drivers did you get???

The site says to use version 7.4.0.1005 from 5/15/2006, but the link goes to version 5.6.2.1002 from 7/24/2006.

Am I missing something here?????



Edit - Never mind. After reading through the entire process I see where he adds the 5.6.2.1002 drivers to the CD. Must be a typo! :)
 
ammon said:
Other question -

Which SATA drivers did you get???

The site says to use version 7.4.0.1005 from 5/15/2006, but the link goes to version 5.6.2.1002 from 7/24/2006.

Am I missing something here?????
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http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scr...All&OSFullName=All Operating Systems&lang=eng
http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scr...All&OSFullName=All Operating Systems&lang=eng

I made a folder named "inteldrivers" sub directories, "inteldriverA" and "inteldriverB"

I unzipped the first one, and copied the 32-bit folder into 'inteldriverA.'
Unzipped the 2nd one and put its contents into 'inteldriverB'

I made a zip of my file, but i'm worried about hosting it on my server if it were to use up all my bandwidth.

*removed*

It will go down at 11pm (est). I think thats enough time for you and a few ppl to grab it.
 
jlmodell said:
Worked perfectly for me! Thanks!

I skipped everything except for the part about slip streaming the intel drivers to my disc.

http://gorkd.com/images/hd_speed.PNG


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on a side note, windows does not see the soundcard at all... and i cannot figure out how to install it manually. this is the error i get. can anyone help?

http://gorkd.com/images/no_sound.PNG
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Right click on my computer hit properties then choose device manager if you look down in system devices you will see a pci device with an ! on it double click on it and choose to install the driver no need to search the net it will get found from the macintosh drivers you already extracted

once that is found your sound will install automatically

LOL I didn't see you later post you fixed it.
 
scratchmaster said:
TO ALL WITH THE MAC PRO PLEASE USE THIS

http://web.mac.com/terrabit/iWeb/macpro/xp.html

ONCE DONE PROPERLY IT WILL WORK IN DMA MODE AND NOT PIO

I JUST DID IT AND MY MAC PRO IS SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET AS EVER.....

BE PATIENT ...READ AND FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS .....IT WILL WORK !!!!!
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I have my MCE 2005 Install DVD slipstreamed and ready to try this workaround tonight. Like others, I skipped over the first few steps which really do nothing more than confuse process, just because the guy doesn't like certain things about the standard Windows install.
 
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