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Just depends on which circles you travel in. I know that in some circles, slut, bitch, and yes the censored c-word (v. similar in spelling to "aunt") are compliments. Does that mean all women and men see those words in a positive light? No. But those words and others, can be and are seen as positive words in some sub-cultures and social circles.

Could it possibly be just a Bay Area thing? Save for one person, no one in any part of the globe I've been to outside of California have any idea that c*nt has any positive connotations.
 
Could it possibly be just a Bay Area thing? Save for one person, no one in any part of the globe I've been to outside of California have any idea that c*nt has any positive connotations.
No. It's more a feminist reclaiming thing. In a similar vein to the GLBT community reclaiming "fairy", "fag", "queer", etc and the black community reclaiming "ni**a".
 
*cough* iBlue is a mature woman.
Doh! My bad, iBlue. *hides under a rock*

Interesting about the slut connotations. Maybe it's regional, too? I'm certainly not trying to suggest that I don't see women who look fantastic and who I wouldn't mind looking like, but I can't say as my first reaction is to trash-talk them. More like "Good lord, that woman looks fantastic." But I don't generally think a woman who is dressing like a "slut" (in my understanding of the word) looks too great.
 
No. It's more a feminist reclaiming thing. In a similar vein to the GLBT community reclaiming "fairy", "fag", "queer", etc and the black community reclaiming "ni**a".

The thing is, of all the women I've talked to outside of California, only one has known what the heck I was talking about. Granted, I've only had the opportunity to bring it up to a few dozen. I suppose it's just not nearly as ubiquitous.
 
I was going to let this thread sink away but found this on urban dictionary and couldn't resist. The distinction I was trying to make is in there somewhere.

1. slut

a woman with the morals of a man


2. slut

Someone who provides a very needed service for the community and sleeps with everyone, even the guy that has no shot at getting laid and everyone knows it. She will give him a sympathy **** either because someone asked her to or she just has to **** everyone she knows. These are great people, and without them sex crimes would definitly increase. Thank you slut, where ever you are.

"Dude, did you get laid after the party." No, I f***ed Megan, the slut."


3. slut

A derogatory term.

Refers to a sexually promiscuous person, usually female.

One who engages in sexual activity with a large number of persons, occasionally simultaneously.

Also refers to one who engages in sexual activity outside of a long-term relationship within the duration of said relationship.

These sexual activities include but are not limited to: passionate kissing, manual stimulation of genitalia and/or breasts in the case of a female; oral stimulation of these parts; sexual intercourse.

In some cases, used to refer to a woman who is wearing "skimpy" or tasteless clothing.

Less commonly, used as a derogatory term by one female for another during periods of conflict.

Synonyms: whore, tramp. Derivations: slutty (adj.), sluttier/sluttiest (superlatives). Related Adjectives: easy; immoral; loose; cheap.

"That slut has slept with every man in this room!"

"That girl is such a slut--I can't believe that she cheated on her boyfriend with his best friend!"

"Look at that slut in her mini-skirt! She is not wearing any underwear!"

"I don't want to talk to her! I hate that slut!"

"That slut is easy like Sunday morning."

4. slut

there can be 2 definitions: one negative, the other positive...

1. a girl who has sex but does not enjoy it, who is used by guys and lets them do it. She does not have the self respect to make them stop.

2. a girl who likes sex, so she does it. She probably is not in a relationship, and she equalizes herself to guys by treating sex the same way they do.

The difference between the two examples of what society labels as "sluts" is that one has self respect, the other does not. No one should be called a slut anyway, especially when the name "slut" is a purely judgemental and stereotypical one, and no one really knows the real story behind it all, which is pretty much always the case.

"She has sex...therefore she must be a slut."
 
I am disgusted by girls who dress slutty, and so is my girlfriend.

My girlfriend does not do it out of jealousy, and she is very attractive. She doesn't like girls dressing provocatively because they give men the opportunity to see them as sex objects. Although she is very attractive, she does not wear provocative clothing, she prefers suits and professional attire. She wants to be taken seriously when she talks to men, and not for them to be thinking "Mmmmmmm...... BOOBIES!"

I definitely see her point, and I support it.
 
I am disgusted by girls who dress slutty, and so is my girlfriend.

My girlfriend does not do it out of jealousy, and she is very attractive. She doesn't like girls dressing provocatively because they give men the opportunity to see them as sex objects. Although she is very attractive, she does not wear provocative clothing, she prefers suits and professional attire. She wants to be taken seriously when she talks to men, and not for them to be thinking "Mmmmmmm...... BOOBIES!"

I definitely see her point, and I support it.

I just don't understand how someone else dresses effects you or your girlfriend. There are situations where something may be inappropriate, like with young children around, but, other than that, what's the harm?

And though I do understand your point about objectifying them, but don't you find it ironic that you think they should feel forced to cover themselves up? That they shouldn't feel free to dress as they please?
 
No. It's more a feminist reclaiming thing. In a similar vein to the GLBT community reclaiming "fairy", "fag", "queer", etc and the black community reclaiming "ni**a".
And my tribe reclaiming geek and nerd as proud badges of honor. We're still trying to reclaim hacker, however.
 
In a nutshell with broad, sweeping terms, plus the obligatory "IMO"-

A slut is someone who has sex with strangers on a frequent basis.
A slut is not someone in a long-term relationship who enjoys sex.

Or so I was brought up with. Which I suppose can just summarise this thread. Heck, I've been brought up in a family where everyone married young and are still happy together. No divorce at all. It's been subliminally drilled into my head that I should only have 1 sexual partner, I have and it's great... for me. Won't work for 99.9% of the population though :D
We're all different raisins in the same big pudding.
 
I just nod my head and smile when they say things like "that girl is so slutty." It makes them happy, plus you don't have to talk.

I agree, although when that happens I feel bad that I'm choosing to pretend to agree with something that I don't believe, just for the sake of social conformity.

It's been subliminally drilled into my head that I should only have 1 sexual partner

I agree. It's bad form to have more than one sexual partner in a given night. Although sometimes you can push the gray area and have one in the morning and a different one in the evening.

/Kind of lame delivery of that joke. But I tried :)
 
I agree. It's bad form to have more than one sexual partner in a given night. Although sometimes you can push the gray area and have one in the morning and a different one in the evening.
I thought he meant one sexual partner for life (since he was talking about his family all getting married young and none of them divorced).
 
I thought he meant one sexual partner for life (since he was talking about his family all getting married young and none of them divorced).

I think his wording is a little ambiguous. One could interpret it as his family members having gotten married, but the family members are all still together ;)

Plus, maybe he believes in only having 1 sexual partner, where a partner is an associate, accomplice, or other such witting and consensual relationship. That leaves a lot of wiggle room for other types of relationships ;)


at a time? Beds can hold 3 people easy. :)

Maybe he has a bunk bed, and so can only be with one girl in each bunk at a time?
 
Could it possibly be just a Bay Area thing? Save for one person, no one in any part of the globe I've been to outside of California have any idea that c*nt has any positive connotations.

Of course c*nt is a positive thing. It's raw. It shows intense animal desire.

It helps to have a crazed attack dog look in your eyes when saying it.

I like to allude to a promise of tears, pain and horror filled regret, on their part. The trick is in blending the fisting and sodomy references with some intense kisses and soft touches.
 
You utter, utter clint. Now I feel better. :D

You can take it up a notch, and call me an udder udder cvnt, if you really want to be beastly. But you'd better at least follow through with some rough nipple action.

/Remembers we're on a computer geek forum, necessitating some puns :)
 
To paraphrase a friend of mine: ' A slut is anyone having more sex than you.' :D

That may be a small part of it. But it's probably due to her being more reserved in appearance. Although she is getting a nose job in a month and trying to constantly lose weight, I don't think she'd dress too revealing even if she had the body she wanted.
Maybe she's more envious of the 'slutty' girl's confidence and sexual freedom...?

Or she could just be one of those types who thinks that her lifestyle choices are the only correct ones and everyone who makes different choices is wrong and bad.

My girlfriend does not do it out of jealousy, and she is very attractive. She doesn't like girls dressing provocatively because they give men the opportunity to see them as sex objects. Although she is very attractive, she does not wear provocative clothing, she prefers suits and professional attire. She wants to be taken seriously when she talks to men, and not for them to be thinking "Mmmmmmm...... BOOBIES!"

As I implied above, you can be attractive and still jealous of 'slutty' girls - be jealous of their freedom, their attitude. Not everything is about looks. I'm not saying that your gf is necessarily jealous, just making a point.

Some women (such as myself) like to be seen as sex objects. I enjoy objectification. I also like to be taken seriously, and I think it's limiting to suggest that these are mutually exclusive. You can view someone as a sexual obect, as well as an interesting and intelligent person, or at least *I* can. It's not an either/or situation for me.

I feel that this kind of mindset (that women must de-sexualize and de-feminize themselves in order to gain intellectual and social respect) is the backlash from earlier bra-burning type feminism. And it bothers me. Why haven't we progressed beyond this petty stuff?
 
Maybe she's more envious of the 'slutty' girl's confidence and sexual freedom...?

Or she could just be one of those types who thinks that her lifestyle choices are the only correct ones and everyone who makes different choices is wrong and bad.

Probably a little of both. Whenever she tells me she thinks a guy is attractive, I always encourage to go strike up a conversation, to which she always says no, she needs to lose a little weight or that they won't be interested in her. I personally don't think I'm being naive when I say looks can be overcome with confidence and personality. And if it can't, that person isn't worth the effort(if you're seeking a relationship).

I feel that this kind of mindset (that women must de-sexualize and de-feminize themselves in order to gain intellectual and social respect) is the backlash from earlier bra-burning type feminism. And it bothers me. Why haven't we progressed beyond this petty stuff?

I completely agree. Not to go down a tangent but I always hate hearing that porn is wrong because it objectifies women(not that it can't). I always ask, what about the men? Can't a woman enjoy porn as much as men? I met Nina Hartley and she gave an interesting perspective on it, stating that, in many respects, men are more objectified in porn than women(I'm just begging to get slammed-so to speak). It takes a certain kind of man, psychologically, to be able to perform in porn. A man, if he hates his counterpart, still has to get it up(so the successful ones are the most...can't find the word.), while the worst day for a woman, to use Hartley's words, "just means a bottle of lube."

By the way, I highly recommend her work.
 
Some women (such as myself) like to be seen as sex objects. I enjoy objectification. I also like to be taken seriously, and I think it's limiting to suggest that these are mutually exclusive. You can view someone as a sexual obect, as well as an interesting and intelligent person, or at least *I* can. It's not an either/or situation for me.

By the way, I just took a look at your profile and I have to say, you got me going koo koo for cocoa puffs up in here! :eek: My goodness you're a good looking woman.

And, yes, I try that line on all the girls.
 
I personally don't think I'm being naive when I say looks can be overcome with confidence and personality. And if it can't, that person isn't worth the effort(if you're seeking a relationship).

Ehh, perhaps I'm shallower than you, but I don't think looks can be completely overcome. Looks DO matter, to an extent, for alot of people at least. If you're a hideous troll, I don't care how great your personality is, it's not going to work for me. If you're just sort of average looking, but are otherwise awesome, then we have a potential recipe for success.

I completely agree. Not to go down a tangent but I always hate hearing that porn is wrong because it objectifies women(not that it can't). I always ask, what about the men? Can't a woman enjoy porn as much as men? I met Nina Hartley and she gave an interesting perspective on it, stating that, in many respects, men are more objectified in porn than women(I'm just begging to get slammed-so to speak). It takes a certain kind of man, psychologically, to be able to perform in porn. A man, if he hates his counterpart, still has to get it up(so the successful ones are the most...can't find the word.), while the worst day for a woman, to use Hartley's words, "just means a bottle of lube."

By the way, I highly recommend her work.

I don't think porn is at all tangential to this topic. I personally am not into porn (I just find it at best amusing, at worst, mind-numbingly boring), but I have no issues with it. And many women definitely love porn. I don't see what's wrong with anyone watching pron (unless it gets to the point of neglecting real life sex with one's partner).

Porn, the little I've seen, seems to objectify men and women pretty equally. I think the difference is that men tend to like being objectified, and women have more mixed feelings towards being objects, generally. Personally, I think anyone sexually open would like it...

I think part of why women tend to attack porn is because many of us don't really like it (though many of us do, it's not the overwhelming majority that it seems to be in men), so we don't really understand it. I get, objectively, why porn appeals to people, but subjectively I find it incomprehensible - I can't relate at all. The best I can do is relate it to my enjoyment of written erotica, which I enjoy very much.

I'll check out Nina Hartley. :)
 
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