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How would an edge-to-edge screen work with cases? It sounds like it wouldn't work too well. Regardless, I think I'll be skipping the iPhone Nano. If anything, I want a larger iPhone like the Droid X.
 
The iPod Nano runs a slimmed down version of iOS,

No it does not! The iPod Nano is "AN IPOD", what OS is it running? THE "iPod" App! The exact same app that you see in your iphone, is the actual operating system of you iPod, because.... it's an iPod Nano! It is a trimmed down version of the iPod App, with touch interface instead menus and a clickwheel to keep the family likeness with other apple devices. An operating system is not what you see on your screen, the operating system is underneath!
 
No it does not! The iPod Nano is "AN IPOD", what OS is it running? THE "iPod" App! The exact same app that you see in your iphone, is the actual operating system of you iPod, because.... it's an iPod Nano! It is a trimmed down version of the iPod App, with touch interface instead menus and a clickwheel to keep the family likeness with other apple devices. An operating system is not what you see on your screen, the operating system is underneath!
Apple said that it's not iOS and I'd wager it's not even the iPod app. Like most people have speculated, probably some reworked OS X code.
 
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So instead of a bigger screen we'll have the option to opt for a smaller screen? Nice.

Women control consumer markets and women want smaller sonthe corporations will give them smaller .... Men wantvbigger butbmen dontbmatter as much .... The current iPhone 4 is too small so I think they should Make 2 options one smaller and one bigger....

They can make it thinner and lighter but for gods sake don't make thebscreen harder to see than it is now ...

My guess is they wanna make a "cute iPhone" for women
 
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Could an edge to edge screen iPhone nano work like this? Same screen size and resolution, but a smaller phone. Almost 1/3 smaller? What would they have to take out? How would it work without a home button?
 

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Unless it's going to be a device with just a few redesigned native apps -- and not connected to the App Store ecosystem -- then this is not something that's going to happen. The current iPhone OS and app user interfaces cannot shrink without the user experience going to hell.

Unless it had the same resolution as the first three generations of iPhone (480x320).

(edited as pointed out by alectheking)

you mean 480x320.

EXACTLY! If Apple did the old resolution which all the apps are already made for, at half the size it would still be pretty high pixel density! :cool:

I am excited to see what iOS 5 has in store! I am excited for Lion too, but I find myself moving more and more like Steve said, I get excited about the future of the iPhone and iPad and I still want my Mac Pro, but that is my "truck" that I'm only on for serious things like video editing.
 
Could an edge to edge screen iPhone nano work like this? Same screen size and resolution, but a smaller phone. Almost 1/3 smaller? What would they have to take out? How would it work without a home button?

You could easily make the sleep button function as the Home Button with a quick click, then a long hold of the sleep button could bring up both the power down red slider and a touch sleep option on the screen. Would be very easy.
 
My guess:

The downsides on the iPhone Nano (compared to the iPhone 5):

- worse camera
- worse battery life
- no LTE
- worse speaker
- no physical buttons except sleep and maybe volume
- single core CPU
- less RAM
- less flash (4-16gb?)

What should be the same:

- same resolution
- same screen size
- facetime cam
- NFC chip

It would be kind of like the iPod Touch 4G but with cellular capabilities
 
Unless it's going to be a device with just a few redesigned native apps -- and not connected to the App Store ecosystem -- then this is not something that's going to happen. The current iPhone OS and app user interfaces cannot shrink without the user experience going to hell.

This actually makes some sense, and could be logical and feasible. It might just end up being something like the new iPod nano, but based on iOS. It would just have smaller apps exclusively designed for it, but not open for development. And these apps would not be all the apps available on the iPhone right now, just some essential ones, like Phone, SMS, iPod, and probably small utilities like like calculator and clock. Other than that, everything else could be available on the full iPhone.

But as I type this, I also realize that it would be going away from the entire eventual movement to smartphones…
 
You could easily make the sleep button function as the Home Button with a quick click, then a long hold of the sleep button could bring up both the power down red slider and a touch sleep option on the screen. Would be very easy.

Basically, yeah. Like this.
 
does anyone honestly think we'll get a phone that won't be able to connect to the app store?? i think the screens will be the same, maybe not retina, but juiced up inside so it's up to date. angry birds and all will still continue to work on these cheaper phones, just not as pretty :p

i'm sorry, i just can't see apple making just a phone at this point. and i think the app developers would be pretty pissed if they get from apple "sorry! you have to re-design your apps for our iphone nano! deal with it!" that would go down well...
 
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You need the bezel to hold the phone without touching the display, much like how the iPad has a thick bezel around its display.

wow, you're dumb.

No, he's right. Try holding the phone by the touch screen. It thinks you're tapping it.
 
Here's a thought

What if the screen is the same size (edge to edge) but there is no bezel or a greatly reduced bezel.
Same ios experience, but much smaller.
There has been rumor of saying goodbye to the home button.
This would solve all of that.
Smaller, lighter but the same functionality.
 
I'd be quite surprised by this as I'm not sure what the market is for a smaller phone, esp with sizes now around 4 and 4.3 inches for smartphones. Still, Apple know marketing better than me!
 
...I see some mentioning they want a bigger screen... to each their own but I would never want anything bigger than the current iPhone. It's PHONE.. not a tablet or a laptop. I see people with the 4" Droids and it makes me laugh. Looks ridiculous. I'm fine with options, but as long as they don't ever bring the standard size up. That would stink.

10 years ago when the first Windows CE-based smart phones started being used people looked ridiculous with a device not much bigger than today's smart phones held against their ears when everyone else was using ever-shrinking Nokias, but now we think nothing of it. That said, I agree with you that personally I wouldn't want anything larger.
 
Could an edge to edge screen iPhone nano work like this? Same screen size and resolution, but a smaller phone. Almost 1/3 smaller? What would they have to take out? How would it work without a home button?

Voice Navigation. Just shout "Home" and it'll take you there. :p
 
I'd be quite surprised by this as I'm not sure what the market is for a smaller phone, esp with sizes now around 4 and 4.3 inches for smartphones. Still, Apple know marketing better than me!

There's a market for non-smart-phones, i.e. phones that are good for making phone calls. The iPhone (any version) is kinda awkward for making calls, bad shape, weak vibrator, quiet speaker (too quiet when ringing, too quiet for speakerphone), weak battery compared to old Nokias.

I'm eagerly awaiting a simple phone by Apple to replace my original iPhone.
 
There's a market for non-smart-phones, i.e. phones that are good for making phone calls. The iPhone (any version) is kinda awkward for making calls, bad shape, weak vibrator, quiet speaker (too quiet when ringing, too quiet for speakerphone), weak battery compared to old Nokias.

I'm eagerly awaiting a simple phone by Apple to replace my original iPhone.

Fair points! I'm needing to replace an N82, tho I'll wait til the Summer to see what happens!!
 
Who else thinks this will be Apple's true "smart watch".

Nano with Facetime? Bluetooth?

*head explodes*
 
I dont think it will happen at all.. why would they make a smaller iphone (with a smaller screen unless they keep it the same size) it would be totally pointless, nothing would be right touch performance will be crap. Steve said the same thing about making the iPad smaller. If thats the case (in which case dimming down the size would have been allot easier to handle with the GUI since 7" is still quite big) Doing it to a 3.5 screen and taking it down would just make it shocking...

Anyone who thinks it could work and wont have the app store is mental. I wouldnt buy an iPhone or iPad or iPod now if it didnt have the App store, android offerings are far superior the only reason why I dont buy android stuff is because Apple has the App store which is way ahead of anything else and thats the reason I bought my iPhone.

iPhone without the App store is an outdated boring phone.

theres a reason the phone has a bezel too I dont get this edge to edge thing everyone thinks will happen. You try holding a phone without a bezel and you will constantly touch the screen moving things around or selecting the wrong thing etc. The Bezel is there for a reason... and it gives a little extra space to pack more things in. If we had a phone without a bezel and it was just all screen on the top then that would be a nightmare.
 
If they're going to do this, here is my prediction (indulging in some classic rumour combination).

This is all about losing the home button. The iPhone Nano (or whtever it's called) will be the same size as the screen on the current iPhone (so no issue with scaling of the apps). The screen will be edge-to-edge, and the overall size of the device will be smaller than current iterations.

The important part to think about here is differentiation then between the 'Nano' and the iPhone 5. Again, it's all about removal of the home button. The iPhone 5 will basically stay the same overall size also, but will have an edge-to-edge screen, thereby increasing the screen size and providing the differentiation between teh devices (don't ask me how this works with scaling of the apps!)

So, there we have it. A bigger iPhone 5 screen (as many people have been clamouring for), and a smaller device which retains the current level of real estate and means that no apps have to be rescaled.

Amazing what you can almost convince yourself of....

Oh, and one other thing, whatever they produce it has to have access to the App Store. These days, that's the iPhone's biggest selling point if you ask me.
 
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Honestly you guy are mental if you think an edge to edge screen is going to happen.

Imagine this... when you print out a high glossy photo through your printer and it comes out and you pick it up you only hold the back of it.. you dont dare to put your fingers on the front incase you smudge it right?

Youl do the same thing with an edge to edge phone because you will constantly keep hitting stuff on the screen you didnt want to touch...
 
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