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Small iPhone to Have Edge to Edge Screen, Voice Navigation?

I think the new iPhone nano will be 3.3" to 3.5" sized, with hw specs simil-3gs (480x320), with front face camera and led flash on rear camera, reduced black bezels around the screen, and 4 or 8GB of memory. The iPhone5, 3.7" to 4" sized, with reduced bezels, iphone4-like specs with A5 processor (we'll see it with the iPad 2) and 16-64GB of memory.
All these phones will use the same apps with no change from actual 3gs and 4.
Price points: 250-350$ for nano, and 600-800$ range for iPhone 5.
 
Whats all the confusion about the edge to edge screen? You dont hold the phone with your finger on the back and your thumb on the front now do you????

You would still hold it by its sides so the only thing apple would do is take away the 2-3mm side bits so it goes all over. No harder to use but smaller.

Matt
 
ri0ku said:
Honestly you guy are mental if you think an edge to edge screen is going to happen.

Imagine this... when you print out a high glossy photo through your printer and it comes out and you pick it up you only hold the back of it.. you dont dare to put your fingers on the front incase you smudge it right?

Youl do the same thing with an edge to edge phone because you will constantly keep hitting stuff on the screen you didnt want to touch...
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I think the left and right bezel will stay the same size as it is now. But the top and bottom bezel will be reduced to the same size as that of left and right. It'll look like a tiny iPad basically.

What I find more interesting (if the edge to edge rumor is true) is what are they doing with the speakerphone and front facing camera? Could they put the speakerphone under the glass? What about the camera?
 
E.Lizardo said:
And that phone found in a bar last year is NOT the new iPhone.No Way.Only an idiot would think so.The design is totally un-Apple.And those black lines on the side,Apple would never,never do that.And they'd never let a prototype off campus anyway,so it's impossible.Obviously some cheap crappy looking Chinese garbage.

Beware of people who think they absolutely know what Apple will do.
They don't.
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Well said. Exactly what I was thinking.
 
I don't really understand the advantages of having a phone that is navigated by your voice, other than when you are driving. As an Androider, that's the only time I ever use it. Other than that, I don't want to look like an idiot whose shouting commands into oblivion :p
 
Here a really bad photoshop (must be because I don't own photoshop and did it with preview lol :D )

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You could do a 3.5" screen, that would avoid fragmentation. The iPhone 4 chipset would fit in that size-factor with no problem. In fact, the battery takes the majority of space. So you could do that with no problem, just with a worse battery life. However, if Apple could fit in a more energy efficient screen and maybe tweak the chipset a little more you could have roughly the same (or just slightly worse) battery life.

iPhone 4 internals (maybe worse cam) could make this product cheaper than the iPhone 5.

I could imagine the Home button at the top of the device (like the sleep button).
 
vaiol123 said:
Other than that, I don't want to look like an idiot whose shouting commands into oblivion :p
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I remember all those people laughing about cell phones saying "I'D NEVER USE ONE OF THOSE! I'll look like some idiot standing around talking to myself." They all look like idiots now, indeed.

Wiesenlooser said:
The iPhone 4 chipset would fit in that size-factor with no problem. In fact, the battery takes the majority of space. So you could do that with no problem, just with a worse battery life.
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Assuming this story is a true possibility and Apple is working on it, and knowing Apple, they won't sell a half-price product with the same function. Most likely they will trim down function.

Web browsing would be a serious pain on the thing. It seems to be too small to me. Most of the comfortable function of the iPhone will become squint-worthy on this phone, or it will have to be cropped if not chopped entirely.
 
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nice to see apple catching up to other phones with other OS' which already do voice nav! :rolleyes:
 
maybe this is a follow up to the old rumour that the home button will disappear which means the "mini" iPhone will only have a slightly smaller screen than the standard iPhone. neat stevie.
 
Lesser Evets said:
Assuming this story is a true possibility and Apple is working on it, and knowing Apple, they won't sell a half-price product with the same function. Most likely they will trim down function.
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As I said, they could use a cheaper camera. Plus they can use the iPhone 4 internals. The iPhone 4 is still very fast, and you don't absolutely need a dual core CPU as the Iphone 5 is likely to have. And they could use smaller memory (8/16 gb instead of 32/64? ) So yes, there is a lot of pottential for cutting the costs and you could still have basically the same experience.



Web browsing would be a serious pain on the thing. It seems to be too small to me. Most of the comfortable function of the iPhone will become squint-worthy on this phone, or it will have to be cropped if not chopped entirely.
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I don't expect the iPhone Mini (or whatever it is going to be called) to have a smaller screen. They want the same apps to be running on this thing because they make alot of profit with the app store. Plus they would need to rethink the whole user interface...
 
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Cinnabar said:
If they're going to do this, here is my prediction (indulging in some classic rumour combination).

This is all about losing the home button. The iPhone Nano (or whtever it's called) will be the same size as the screen on the current iPhone (so no issue with scaling of the apps). The screen will be edge-to-edge, and the overall size of the device will be smaller than current iterations.

The important part to think about here is differentiation then between the 'Nano' and the iPhone 5. Again, it's all about removal of the home button. The iPhone 5 will basically stay the same overall size also, but will have an edge-to-edge screen, thereby increasing the screen size and providing the differentiation between teh devices (don't ask me how this works with scaling of the apps!)

So, there we have it. A bigger iPhone 5 screen (as many people have been clamouring for), and a smaller device which retains the current level of real estate and means that no apps have to be rescaled.

Amazing what you can almost convince yourself of....

Oh, and one other thing, whatever they produce it has to have access to the App Store. These days, that's the iPhone's biggest selling point if you ask me.
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I don't like any of really, but I'm resistant to change in the beginning stages anyway. I'd get one personally as a good cheap throwaway phone if it's cheap enough. I am leaning to believing this is in fact true... Bloomberg, and the WSJ? There's somerhing going on. Anyhow I don't think it would be wise at all to cut out the App store or iTunes... That is what would actuall be ridiculous... So much potential ecosystem revenue left to the wayside would be insanely dumb IMO. The iPhone is still very much evolving... And I am sure the iPhone 8 will be VERY different from iPhone 4... But I will always keep my IP4... just too much exactly everything I like in how it could be actually is:p they'll all be great collectors items someday. Wish Ihad the very first iPhone :) Whatever AAPL does I am sure as a shareholder they will see to make it super profitable, which $wise, is all I care about :) AAPL makes all who own it RICH ¥€$ ;) Going to $450.00+ by December '11...
 
Wiesenlooser said:
I don't expect the iPhone Mini (or whatever it is going to be called) to have a smaller screen. They want the same apps to be running on this thing because they make alot of profit with the app store. Plus they would need to rethink the whole user interface...
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The rumor this expands on says the prototype seen was "about half the size" of an iPhone.

It would make sense if they do get rid of all the edges on the current iPhone and have the edge to edge screen.
 
Due to the sheer size and popularity of the App Store, this will never, ever, ever happen unless the screen's resolution is that of the iPhone 2G/3G/3GS (good luck finding an iPhone 4 resolution screen half the current size).

Apple (and any other person with half a brain) knows that it just won't sell if Apps aren't available on the device. The App Store is Apple's biggest selling point, just see their ads...
 
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I want an iPhone with a BIGGER retina screen!
 
hellomoto4 said:
Due to the sheer size and popularity of the App Store, this will never, ever, ever happen unless the screen's resolution is that of the iPhone 2G/3G/3GS (good luck finding an iPhone 4 resolution screen half the current size).

Apple (and any other person with half a brain) knows that it just won't sell if Apps aren't available on the device. The App Store is Apple's biggest selling point, just see their ads...
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If the screen size is half actual (with half the resolution of retina), it can't run actual apps because they appear too small. The only way for running actual apps, is retina (960x480) or non-retina (480x320) but with a screen size NEAR 3,5" (3.0 to 4, or better 3.2 to 3.7). This is the max range for future iPhones to run actual apps without scaling.Two resolutions (960x480 and 480x320) and a size range of +/-0,5" from 3,5".
 
So if this "half size" means "iPhone sans black borders", has anyone thought about the implications for the iPad?

7.76" x 5.82"

There's your newer, smaller iPad.
 
Well a smaller iPhone is technically totally possible.

Cut down the top (where speaker and front facing cam reside in the 4) and the bottom (where the home button is). Remove the Front Faceing Cam. Move the Speaker to the top corner. Move the home button to the lower left or right side. Voila, size already reduced by 30%. Now just make the screen smaller with non-retina resolution and smaller pixels then the 3Gs.

You essentially get a phone thats "all display" on the front.

Big question is how to differentiate a smaller and cheaper 200-300$ iPhone (mini) to the 500-600$ regular one.

remove front facing cam ?
remove bluetooth ?
non-retina ?
smaller flash memory ?
older (3GS) CPU ?
reduce RAM ?
less megapixel cam at the back ?
no flash (for the camera that is) ?
no video or no hd video (for camera) ?
no GPS / Gyro / Compass ?

Well could be enough cut downs to justify the higher price of the regular one. But could still attract "I wont an iPhone - but cheap" people. Technically it looks like a 2G with 3GS CPU, now that i think of it.
 
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iPhone 5 should be more feature-heavy regardless of price.

I'd gladly dish out $1K+ for a top-tier model.
 
Hey, no problem if the screen is smaller... just use the new Apple stylus!

Okay, seriously:

Apple had no qualms asking for developers to make iPad screen apps and retina-screen apps. They'd have no hesitation in asking for mini-screen apps as well.

They all mean more royalties to Apple.
 
Probably everybody is wrong.

It's an iKEA phone model Köllmy Cäll.

You get a kit and put it together. That's how the price goes down.
 
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No, he's right. Try holding the phone by the touch screen. It thinks you're tapping it.
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no, you cradle it in your palm. i've never seen anyone hold their iphone with their index finger and thumb on the bezel and back of phone - totally unnatural.
 
sk58781111 said:
no, you cradle it in your palm. i've never seen anyone hold their iphone with their index finger and thumb on the bezel and back of phone - totally unnatural.
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You've not seen me then. Believe me, there's no way I'm going to 'gently cradle' £600 worth of phone in my palm - this thing gets well and truly gripped!
 
I don't see how this will work. 1) Can't have a smaller screen phone without messing with it's ability to access the app store (as mentioned in many earlier posts) and 2) if they truly mean an "edge-to-edge" screen, where will the speaker area for the ear go? It all depends one what Apple defines as "edge-to-edge" I guess.
 
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